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Please guys, stay on topic.

This thread is about the situation in Iraq and Syria.
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden737 Posts
November 29 2024 20:17 GMT
#8501
If its Joliani and HTS that fills the vacuum the situation wont be for the better for the civilians thats one thing thats sure.

And having Syria as a failed state is problematic, theres still a decent presence of ISIS in the middle of the country.
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-11-29 22:05:48
November 29 2024 20:23 GMT
#8502
On November 30 2024 05:05 Billyboy wrote:
It is exiting to see Iran lose its grip on some of these other countries in the middle east, their colonial ambitions have taken a major hit. I'm concerned that the people who fill that vacuum will be just as bad or worse, but there is reason to be hopeful for a change.



Yes it's always good to fill that gap with alqaeda and other militants, fantastic for the west as well since those sunni groups are often the ones committing terrorist attacks in Europe.
Yes im
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2111 Posts
November 30 2024 00:08 GMT
#8503
Syrian Army is a joke. Had all that time to strengthen the army and he has been twiddling his thumbs. God help anyone that isn't a Salafi Muslim and especially anyone who isn't Muslim.
John 15:13
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden737 Posts
November 30 2024 15:05 GMT
#8504
Looks like hts are going for Hama now, making insane progress.

If this keeps Rolling Assad will at most have the coast and Damascus in 1-2 weeks
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
November 30 2024 15:45 GMT
#8505
On November 30 2024 05:23 ImFromPortugal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2024 05:05 Billyboy wrote:
It is exiting to see Iran lose its grip on some of these other countries in the middle east, their colonial ambitions have taken a major hit. I'm concerned that the people who fill that vacuum will be just as bad or worse, but there is reason to be hopeful for a change.



Yes it's always good to fill that gap with alqaeda and other militants, fantastic for the west as well since those sunni groups are often the ones committing terrorist attacks in Europe.


Funny as for the sake of israel those guys support djihadists affiliated with al qaeda.
Moreover, Alep's christian community has supported Assad, there will be most likely a strong repression.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
November 30 2024 15:51 GMT
#8506
On November 30 2024 05:23 ImFromPortugal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2024 05:05 Billyboy wrote:
It is exiting to see Iran lose its grip on some of these other countries in the middle east, their colonial ambitions have taken a major hit. I'm concerned that the people who fill that vacuum will be just as bad or worse, but there is reason to be hopeful for a change.



Yes it's always good to fill that gap with alqaeda and other militants, fantastic for the west as well since those sunni groups are often the ones committing terrorist attacks in Europe.


Funny as for the sake of israel those guys support djihadists affiliated with al qaeda.
Moreover, Alep's christian community has supported Assad, there will be most likely a strong repression.

A lot of daesh elements will be freed as well
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden737 Posts
November 30 2024 17:12 GMT
#8507
Hama and Homs seems likley to fall very soon.

Also seen some claims that Assad and family has relocated to Moscow allready, would imply that he knew this was coming and we might se Afghanistan 2.0
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden737 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-11-30 18:08:57
November 30 2024 17:49 GMT
#8508
Unconfirmed yet, but theres talk about a coup are on its way i Damascus

edit: more and more about a coup, seems Intelligence-division started it and are fighting 4th division led by Maher atm.


Crazy events
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6286 Posts
November 30 2024 19:37 GMT
#8509
On December 01 2024 02:12 Kreuger wrote:
Hama and Homs seems likley to fall very soon.

Also seen some claims that Assad and family has relocated to Moscow allready, would imply that he knew this was coming and we might se Afghanistan 2.0

Its Libya 2.0 unfortunately for the Syrian people
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden737 Posts
November 30 2024 19:43 GMT
#8510
On December 01 2024 04:37 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2024 02:12 Kreuger wrote:
Hama and Homs seems likley to fall very soon.

Also seen some claims that Assad and family has relocated to Moscow allready, would imply that he knew this was coming and we might se Afghanistan 2.0

Its Libya 2.0 unfortunately for the Syrian people


Yeah, would expect a real hell for alawites and christians when HTS assume control.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6286 Posts
November 30 2024 20:36 GMT
#8511
On December 01 2024 04:43 Kreuger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2024 04:37 zeo wrote:
On December 01 2024 02:12 Kreuger wrote:
Hama and Homs seems likley to fall very soon.

Also seen some claims that Assad and family has relocated to Moscow allready, would imply that he knew this was coming and we might se Afghanistan 2.0

Its Libya 2.0 unfortunately for the Syrian people


Yeah, would expect a real hell for alawites and christians when HTS assume control.

Its hell for everyone in Syria, Muslims in these areas going from relative peace, freedom for women and a normal life... to sharia law. Horrible.

But Syria has been in much worse situations, Syria fought by itself for years and held on. The people there held on to their secular state and I hope for their sake they still have the will to hold on. Al Qaeda and other jihadists have been patched up and armed to the teeth, its going to be tough but to give up is to drop into the abyss.

Anyone that has spent more time following any conflict involving Arabs knows this kind of fuck up is every day shit
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13955 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-01 14:13:22
December 01 2024 14:11 GMT
#8512
Oh come on Zeo even you can't stand by "syria fought by itself for years" line. Its the middle east, everyone knows they're just proxies of other powers at this point. Russia has been deep into syria officially from 2015 onward and has had permanent Russian soldiers in country from 2017. Not just wagerites and its ilk but official uniform russian soldiers. They've had a ton of aid and investment from Iran and russia for much longer and has support from Hezbollah. Lets not make Bashar Assad the good guy, and lets not act like the balkans didn't get better after their violent wars.

As time goes on I think this has been a direct result of the US election, everyone knows its a now or never time for "finishing" work before Trump gets into office and becomes a puppet to whatever putin wants. Assad will never be weaker than this window where no more help can come for him. All his allies are either broken or busy with their own problems.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2620 Posts
December 04 2024 22:18 GMT
#8513
I'll try to give people an update since it's been quiet on TL but a lot of shit is going down right now.

So we are right now in Syria civil war 2.0 and a lot of the major factions have split, merged and rebranded.

Right now the big factions are:

SAA - The Syrian Army. Allied with Iran, Russia, Hezbollah and some Iraqi militias. The regimes biggest strongholds are Damascus and the coastal regions where the Alawites live (Islamic shia offshoot, generally seen as apostates by Sunni, Asad and his power base are Alawites).
Hated by everyone else, but had a truce with SDF.
SDF - After the previous rebellion failed groups split and merged into 3 major factions. SDF is is the Syrian Defence forces. Made of of various Kurdish groups but also arab militias. Yellow on most maps. Been avoiding fighting SAA because they are mainly fighting SNA. Had more or less a truce with SAA because of this. Holds most of the oil fields. The eastern groups are allied/supported by USA but not the northern groups bordering Turkey.
SNA - Syrian National Army. Groups allied to Turkey. Hates Assad but mainly likes to fight or ethnically cleanse Kurds. Very heavily supported by Turkey. "Allied" to HTS or at least have a truce with them.
HTS Hayat Tahir Al-Sham is a coalition of more religious militias with a side dish of nationalism. Their goal is to oust Assad and Iranian militias and establish Islamic rule in Syria. Previously affiliated with Al Queda but not anymore. Their leader is a bonafide terrorist.
The interesting thing is they have mellowed down a lot the last year. Much more tolerant and their leader has apparently taken a masterclass in PR. For example they tolerate other religions now, have removed the religious police, regularly let hostile forces go if they surrender and just recently called for reconciliation with the Alawite sect.
Basically they went from 2 chillis worth of Jihad (where the Talibans are 3) down to 1.
If this is just because they wan to be more palatable to the west and don't want to get bombed by western powers and Turkey and they will change back if they get power, or if it's a real shift is hard to tell. But they do talk the talk and walk the walk (for now).

Basically the new war is all HTS. They stated they were going to take Alepo and they did and then they kept pushing. SDF scrambled in and took a bunch of ground which prompted the SNA to start fighting them (also a bit of SAA).
SDF have lost a lot of territory and is under heavy attack from SNA and Turkey.

But rigth now HTS are assaulting Hama. It's an important town on the road to Homs. If they can take Homs Assad is basically fucked because he will only have Damascus and the coastal regions and they will be split up.
Since Hezb and Russia is basically out of the picture, Iraqi militias have a hard time getting into the country (recently strafed by US A10s when they crossed into Syria) and Israel have basically told Iran that they will fuck any IRGC in Syria it certainly looks possible.

Not the least because HTS seem to have improved their tactics a bit (they have drone warfare now) and their strategic movement a lot. For example they pull back when they lack supply lines and encircled 3 sides of Hama before their assault instead of relying on charging in.

As per usual there are virtually no real good guys and the situation is fucked.
waaaaaaaaaaaooooow - Felicia, SPF2:T
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2620 Posts
December 05 2024 13:02 GMT
#8514
And Hama was just taken.
waaaaaaaaaaaooooow - Felicia, SPF2:T
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
December 05 2024 13:46 GMT
#8515
This is not a reason to celebrate btw.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2620 Posts
December 06 2024 17:03 GMT
#8516
The entire east part of the country has been handed over to SDF forces.

The south is rebelling in multiple areas.

HTS are already at Homs and are conducting staging operations and drone strikes.
waaaaaaaaaaaooooow - Felicia, SPF2:T
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-06 17:28:22
December 06 2024 17:27 GMT
#8517
This looks like a decisive victory in this war even if only tenth of current news will be comfirmed. The victory that may end the Assad's regime in weeks. Iran seems to be the last chance for Assad to save his butt, because if army keep collapsing that fast, his end is imminent.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6215 Posts
December 06 2024 17:47 GMT
#8518
On December 07 2024 02:27 hitthat wrote:
This looks like a decisive victory in this war even if only tenth of current news will be comfirmed. The victory that may end the Assad's regime in weeks. Iran seems to be the last chance for Assad to save his butt, because if army keep collapsing that fast, his end is imminent.

Not sure how Iran can help in the time frame the Syrian army is collapsing. To make matters worse they're also losing the border crossings. Hezbollah participating in the war against Israel was a gigantic strategic error in hindsight.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-06 18:50:58
December 06 2024 17:57 GMT
#8519
Iran may directly intervene motivating it "invitation from legal gouverment of Syria". Hesbollah are just a proxies and their involvement would make no real difference. If Iran sends the regular army, it may turn the tides of this war. Russian kamov gunship is already filmed attacking targets by unguaided missiles in syrian city Homs. So the city might be already under attack by rebel forces. The real problem for possible iranian intervention might be logistics, because with this rate of territorian gains of rebels both the iraqui border and coast may be cut off.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1052 Posts
December 07 2024 01:31 GMT
#8520
On December 05 2024 22:46 hitthat wrote:
This is not a reason to celebrate btw.

Depends who you are.
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