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Please guys, stay on topic. This thread is about the situation in Iraq and Syria. | ||
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Kickboxer
Slovenia1308 Posts
Then, there is the separate issue of fostering what is essentially a religious polarity within a country, and with it a massive anchor against "real cultural integration", which is why I'm absolutely positive building mosques in Europe is a bad longterm idea anyway you look at it. The way I see it, a people who don't share a core "mythology", even when that's the idiot consumerist ideology we've been sharing, are doomed to fail as "a people", whatever that means. | ||
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Kickboxer
Slovenia1308 Posts
 Happy to hear about what sounds like the prospect of peace in Syria. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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AssyrianKing
Australia2115 Posts
On April 06 2018 00:28 Velr wrote: English didn't help you much in switzerland during the nineties. The numbers and cultural diffrences were high enough for the right wing to declare the end of switzerland allready  .While we were very wealthy, ee struggled with a recession during the 90ies. Important policy was: No Ghettos, mx the people in as much as possible. Will it work again? Who knows. It looks bad for germany tho, they allready failed with the turks. I don't understand why EU countries dont HAVE CHILDREN. The rate to keep the population stable is to have 2.1 children per mother. Then you wouldn't have to immigrate people to your countries, people who to be honest do not care for the laws of the country, who only keep to themselves and do not want to intermingle with the rest of the population. Not having children will raise the average age of the country, increase pressure on the dwinling working population to pay taxes for social services, reduce the amount of work force therefore reducing a countries economic power, and that's only the economic side, which I honestly don't care about. What is going to happen to the culture, traditions, religion, history, etc of all these countries ? There isn't going to be anyone to pass it down to. There is already news everyday of people who feel like strangers in their own country. Everyone always complains about overpopulation, but why must EU countries take the hit & not have children ? The rest of the world isn't stopping (Africa anyone ?). Anyway, I'm glad that these 'opposition groups' are being wiped out. If they were to take power, it would mean destruction for every other minority in Syria. There is a reason why all non-sunni people support Assad, and even half the Syrian army is made up of Sunnis. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
We will see what happens in Syria. I am worried about what the new Assad regime will do after stability is obtained. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10775 Posts
People with good education and jobs have less and later children than poor ones. Money isn't the issue at all, people just set their priorities differently when they have the options to do so. And btw. the rest of the World is in fact stopping/slowing down - including Africa. | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5281 Posts
On April 06 2018 11:34 Plansix wrote: 'migrants are a short term solution' to 'the white folks in US lack of money'; the other two of your raised issues are self enforced. The same reason people in the white folks US don't have kids, lack of money, free time and stability. It is hard in every country to work and raise kids. Migrants are a solution, but the other one is to pay people more and provide more time off for raise the next generation. But there is no quick fix for that cultural problem, so migrants are a short term solution that can turn into a long term solution. And the traditions of nations survived thousands of years and even trips across the ocean to the Americas, they will make it through a population decline. We will see what happens in Syria. I am worried about what the new Assad regime will do after stability is obtained. stability can be fairly easily provided by the state which you hate and want less of and free time is killed by capitalism which you love and want more of. migrants will work for minimum wage because as minimum as it is, its still (sometimes)10 times higher than in their native country. the second generation of natives will do the same, the third probably too but around the 4th, they'll also want/demand bigger salaries. so what you do then?, bring another wave of immigrants obviously; it's not like you're going to increase the buying power of the population, that'd be preposterous. Assad will snipe the rebel leaders(be it ideological or military ones) based on the wast network of intelligence he has going there but he realizes he needs people and lots of them. he can't afford to be petty and vengeful if that's why you're worried about. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 06 2018 14:53 Velr wrote: Uhm, either everything I ever read on the topic is wrong, or you just made that up. People with good education and jobs have less and later children than poor ones. Money isn't the issue at all, people just set their priorities differently when they have the options to do so. And btw. the rest of the World is in fact stopping/slowing down - including Africa. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/23/baby-crisis-europe-brink-depopulation-disaster It was from a guardian article from 2015 that listed a number of factors. I believe that people with good incomes and education are less likely to have children because doing so would cause one them to lose that income and no longer use that education. They have to pick between a career or children. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10775 Posts
They are allowed to pick between career and children, thats a big freedom that is a pretty recent development. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10775 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On April 06 2018 22:48 Plansix wrote: If a house hold is unwilling to give up around 30-50% of their income, while increasing the household costs, I believe the concerns about long term economic stability are implied. I think Velr's point is that this is a consequence of women having the option to pick between career and family, instead of being defaulted to the latter. To say that couples aren't having children because they lack money is to ignore that, absent the choice, they would in fact be having more children, even if overall household income would be lower. I agree with you in that for a middle class woman faced with the choice, money matters, given current income. But if next year the same woman was promoted and now has a higher income, she's less, not more, likely than before to have a child, so it's not obvious to say the problem is lack of money. | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5281 Posts
also you can't look at an aggregate(data on natality here), ignore some of its premises and think the conclusion still holds; in this case - rich women, under all circumstances, will always be less likely to have children. that is bs. Edit: Ex: http://smallbusiness.co.uk/powerful-business-women-children-2537493/ The Forbes list of The World’s 100 Most Powerful Women, analysed by TG Escapes, finds that Europe’s most powerful business women have an average of two children each– above the European average of 1.58 children per woman. ~also: Two fifths (40 per cent) of women surveyed also feel that flexible hours are the key to allowing them to combine their career and family life, and just under a quarter state that the ability to work from home and subsidised child costs could also help them to do both jobs more successfully. goes under free time in his argument. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
He's on the US, for instance. https://www.statista.com/statistics/241530/birth-rate-by-family-income-in-the-us/ Also, looking at the top 100 is not only a small sample, but may reflect something very specific to the very very very top of the dsitribution. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
BEIRUT (AP) — The Latest on the Syrian conflict (all times local): 5:10 a.m. Syria's state-run news agency says the military's air defenses have confronted a missile attack on air base in central Syria and shot down eight missiles. The report on SANA says the attack on the T4 military airbase in Homs province "is likely to be an American aggression." However, U.S. officials tell The Associated Press that the U.S. has not launched airstrikes on Syria. SANA says the attack resulted in a number of casualties. The report comes after a suspected poison gas attack killed at least 40 in the eastern suburbs of Damascus, the last foothold for the Syrian opposition in the area. President Donald Trump has promised a "big price to pay" for the suspected chemical attack. Israel has also struck inside Syria in recent years. Source. My money is on Israel. It's going to be interesting to see what happens when the UN Security Council hold their emergency meeting tomorrow. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4340 Posts
Does anybody still believe the mainstream story being pushed here? It's a fantasy.A fairytale.The chemical attack was done by forces who wish to re-escalate the conflict in Syria, aka clearly not Assad who has basically won the war. Whoever has now started bombing Syria again needs to be tried for war crimes, Israel is the likely culprit so we won't see that happen i imagine. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On April 09 2018 18:47 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: So 4 days after Trump says he is removing US troops from Syria we hear news that Assad forces used illegal chemical weapons against 'rebels'. Does anybody still believe the mainstream story being pushed here? It's a fantasy.A fairytale.The chemical attack was done by forces who wish to re-escalate the conflict in Syria, aka clearly not Assad who has basically won the war. Whoever has now started bombing Syria again needs to be tried for war crimes, Israel is the likely culprit so we won't see that happen i imagine. It's quite the farce. First Trump wants to remove troops, pentagon says needs US troops " to fight ISIS" which is nonexistent at this point, russian and other medias predict gas attack allegation incoming and here it is. I guess US, Britain, France and middle east country such as Israel and Saudi Arabia have invested a lot in this proxy war to go out defeated. US positioning it's base in the oil rich part of the country and will not let go of it... Turkey doing whatever the hell they want smuggled oil in from ISIS, attacking Kurds, but still shouting for US to bomb Assad forces even though, Erdogan is working with Putin on de-escalation... | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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