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Please guys, stay on topic.

This thread is about the situation in Iraq and Syria.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23153 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-21 23:01:03
December 21 2014 23:00 GMT
#5321
On December 22 2014 07:36 AssyrianKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2014 06:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
SHINGAl, Kurdistan Region - The Islamic State (ISIS) has executed more than 50 of its own militants as a warning to others about abandoning positions, after Peshmerga forces pushed the fighters out of vast areas of the Kurdistan Region, a Kurdish official said.

“ISIS has executed dozens of its own gunmen who fled from Shingal,” Ismat Rajab, a Kurdistan Democratic Party official, told Rudaw.

He said information had been obtained that the mass executions took place in the city of Mosul, which is still in ISIS control.


Source

No idea where to put this:


Why am I not surprised... Western countries are especially prone to these kind of attacks as they lack any backbone

On a personal note, ill just put it out, I'm Christian, and we are taught to Love your Enemy, but God has it been hard lately...


"The man, born in 1974, is apparently imbalanced and had been in a psychiatric hospital," the source told AFP, adding that "for now his motives are still unclear."

Witnesses told police that the driver shouted "Allahu Akbar" and "that he was acting for the children of Palestine," a source close to the investigation said.


Source


Looks like another mentally unstable person not your typical 'committed to terrorism' type. Everywhere is especially prone to unstable people acting out. Except the countries with outstanding mental health care maybe?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
December 22 2014 02:10 GMT
#5322
On December 22 2014 08:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2014 07:36 AssyrianKing wrote:
On December 22 2014 06:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
SHINGAl, Kurdistan Region - The Islamic State (ISIS) has executed more than 50 of its own militants as a warning to others about abandoning positions, after Peshmerga forces pushed the fighters out of vast areas of the Kurdistan Region, a Kurdish official said.

“ISIS has executed dozens of its own gunmen who fled from Shingal,” Ismat Rajab, a Kurdistan Democratic Party official, told Rudaw.

He said information had been obtained that the mass executions took place in the city of Mosul, which is still in ISIS control.


Source

No idea where to put this:

https://twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/546773070154039296

Why am I not surprised... Western countries are especially prone to these kind of attacks as they lack any backbone

On a personal note, ill just put it out, I'm Christian, and we are taught to Love your Enemy, but God has it been hard lately...


Show nested quote +
"The man, born in 1974, is apparently imbalanced and had been in a psychiatric hospital," the source told AFP, adding that "for now his motives are still unclear."

Witnesses told police that the driver shouted "Allahu Akbar" and "that he was acting for the children of Palestine," a source close to the investigation said.


Source


Looks like another mentally unstable person not your typical 'committed to terrorism' type. Everywhere is especially prone to unstable people acting out. Except the countries with outstanding mental health care maybe?


Maybe, but I doubt it. Doesn't Norway have some pretty good mental health care?

I think, in response to the Zeo/Kwark debate, that there are probably some people in each category. I sure wouldn't label mentally ill people "scum" or "monsters," but there does seem to be a subset of people who, in free or badly policed countries, will be able to do horrific acts of violence based on their capability: firebombing, driving a car into a crowd, school shooting... or, probably most often, the standard domestic murder or murder/suicide. Limiting access to weapons seems to help lower the body count, and it would be great if someone could show another thing that works, because I sure can't think of one that I would allow in a free society.

On the other hand, there is the process of radicalization by alienation, which I can totally imagine a reasonable person going through. People like easy, tribal answers to hard problems. They often turn to horrific evil in search of this. There are a thousand lesser cases of this in western society.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-22 02:31:26
December 22 2014 02:30 GMT
#5323
Here in Germany about one third of the people that went to fight in Syria/Iraq are actually converts without any Muslim background and to my knowledge not overly precarious living conditions. That seems like quite a lot to me.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-22 02:37:29
December 22 2014 02:34 GMT
#5324




Extended footage of the building assualt a week(?) ago by Islamists.

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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 22 2014 19:46 GMT
#5325









Al Jazeera reports: Hazm claims control over Handarat camp, Aleppo.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 23 2014 04:50 GMT
#5326
This guy's death would be a game changer if ISIS or al-Nusra manged to kill him.



General Issam Zahreddine visits wounded Syrian soldiers.


AMMAN: Jordan will begin training the first group of army troops from neighbouring Iraq in the next few weeks as part of the international effort to fight Islamic State, the Iraqi defence minister said on Monday.

Speaking after meeting Jordanian King Abdullah, Khaled al Obeidi said Amman would also supply the Iraqi army with arms needed for its drawn-out fight against the radical Islamists who have seized wide swathes of the north and west of his country.

Obeidi aims to rebuild the Iraqi army, which fell apart last suer in the face of Islamic State's blitz across northern Iraq during which at least four Iraqi divisions crumbled.


Source
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
December 23 2014 06:05 GMT
#5327
why, cuz reddit likes him? A 'game changer' would be a decent amount of Iranian mid level officers who are actually leading the fighting get taken out. The only interesting thing from that video is that Syrians are so stretched they cant afford to get all their soldiers switched out of their combat fatigues and into hospital gear.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 23 2014 06:17 GMT
#5328
No because he is widely the only general that hasn't fared badly during the rebellion, he is also a well known face of the regime when it comes to either loyalty, or abuses against rebels and protesters etc.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 23 2014 18:36 GMT
#5329
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 24 2014 07:26 GMT
#5330
Footage of the Battle for Jasim Hospital late last year and early this year:





Captured Yazidi girls in Iraq are killing themselves to escape rape and torture at the hands of Isis militants holding them prisoner.

Hundreds of women and children were captured during the group’s bloody sweep through northern Iraq earlier this year and have since been trafficked as sex slaves , forced into marriage and imprisoned.

Victims who managed to escape told Amnesty International that many Yazidi girls killed themselves after losing hope of being saved.


Source
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sgtnoobkilla
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia249 Posts
December 24 2014 13:50 GMT
#5331
Isis captures Jordanian pilot after downing plane over Syria

Jordanian authorities confirm capture of pilot after first coalition warplane to be downed since air strikes began in Syria three months ago

Islamic State (Isis) fighters took a Jordanian pilot captive after his warplane was downed in north-eastern Syria on Wednesday, the first captive taken from the US-led coalition battling the jihadi group.

Jordan’s armed forces said one of its pilots had been captured after his plane fell during an air raid over the province of Raqqa. “Jordan holds the group [Isis] and its supporters responsible for the safety of the pilot and his life,” an army statement read on state television said. It did not say whether the plane was shot down.

Isis social media accounts published pictures purportedly of the warplane’s pilot being held by the group’s fighters as well as images of what they said was his Jordanian military ID card. The images were verified by two close relatives contacted by Reuters who said they had been notified by the head of the Jordanian air force the pilot was held captive.

One of the images showed the pilot in a white shirt being led out of the water by several armed fighters. Another showed him on land surrounded by at least a dozen fighters in military fatigues and equipped with assault rifles.

.....

Source

Alternate source here

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frontliner2
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands844 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-24 14:10:08
December 24 2014 14:07 GMT
#5332
Coalition Fighterjet shot down in Raqqa. Pilot captured by ISIS fighters:
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His head on a platter soon?

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sgtnoobkilla
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia249 Posts
December 24 2014 14:31 GMT
#5333
On December 24 2014 23:07 frontliner2 wrote:
His head on a platter soon?

Considering ISIS' wonderful track record with POWs...
Don't play with your food unless it plays with you first.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 24 2014 17:46 GMT
#5334




"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6204 Posts
December 24 2014 22:19 GMT
#5335
AMMAN (Reuters) - Islamic State fighters took a Jordanian pilot prisoner after his warplane came down in northeast Syria on Wednesday, the first captive taken from the U.S.-led coalition battling the jihadi group.

Jordan's armed forces said one of its pilots had been captured after a coalition air raid over the province of Raqqa. There were contradictory accounts as to whether his aircraft had been shot down or not.

"Jordan holds the group (IS) and its supporters responsible for the safety of the pilot and his life," said a statement read out on state television.

It said the F-16 warplane had crashed during a Jordanian air force "military mission against the hideouts of the terrorist group".

Jordan's government spokesman Mohammad Al-Momani told satellite TV station Al Hadath the jet fighter "was shot at from the ground by rocket missiles and was brought down" and that an attempt to rescue the pilot before he was captured failed. He did not elaborate.

But Momani later told Reuters that new assessments showed there was no indication the plane had been shot at by the militants.

"We initially thought the plane might have been shot at, but we cannot confirm this now," he added.

An official source said King Abdullah met top commanders in Jordanian military headquarters, where a round-the-clock operations room had been set up after the pilot's capture.

The U.S. military's Central Command said evidence showed Islamic State did not shoot down the aircraft. It did not disclose the nature of that evidence.

The head of Central Command, General Lloyd Austin, said the United States would "support efforts to ensure his safe recovery and will not tolerate ISIL's attempts to misrepresent or exploit this unfortunate aircraft crash for their own purposes".

One U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said U.S. aircraft took to the air once the Jordanian jet crashed but the pilot was picked up before any rescue attempt could be launched.

source
According tot US officials it crashed instead of shot.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
December 24 2014 23:08 GMT
#5336
so they had a lone F-16 doing raids?
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
December 27 2014 07:31 GMT
#5337
On December 23 2014 15:05 Sub40APM wrote:
why, cuz reddit likes him? A 'game changer' would be a decent amount of Iranian mid level officers who are actually leading the fighting get taken out. The only interesting thing from that video is that Syrians are so stretched they cant afford to get all their soldiers switched out of their combat fatigues and into hospital gear.


ffs. Before it was this guy, they were having a circlejerk over Suhail Hassan.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 28 2014 04:07 GMT
#5338







Harakat Hazm targeting regime artillery with TOW missile.


Syria is ready to meet the country's opposition in Moscow in an effort to find a way out of the nearly four-year civil war, a government official has said.

"Syria is ready to participate in a preliminary and consultative meeting in Moscow to respond to the aspirations of Syrians who are trying to find a solution to the crisis," the Foreign Ministry official said on Saturday, quoted by SANA state news agency.

"The Syrian Arab Republic has always been ready for dialogue with those who believe in its unity, sovereignty and freedom of choice," the official said.

The Western-backed Syrian opposition has insisted that any negotiated settlement include the formation of a transitional governing body with full executive powers, a demand rejected by President Bashar al-Assad's government.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Snakehips.
Profile Joined November 2013
United States12 Posts
December 28 2014 07:53 GMT
#5339
On December 22 2014 11:30 Nyxisto wrote:
Here in Germany about one third of the people that went to fight in Syria/Iraq are actually converts without any Muslim background and to my knowledge not overly precarious living conditions. That seems like quite a lot to me.


IMO it's because of intense nationalism in European countries. THis is something i've noticed at least compared to America. I think that plays a big role in Islamic extremism in Europe. As well as your bad luck on immigrants and Saudi Salafi/Wahabi influence on your Muslims.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11469 Posts
December 28 2014 09:10 GMT
#5340
Sorry but what?

In my experience US-Americans are WAY more nationalistic than most europeans(Well, i guess you call it "patriotic"). Except for small pockets of crazy nazis, the vast majority of the population here don't really care about nations that much. For example, I am pretty sure that you could find more american flags in some peoples gardens than total german flags in some small towns here in germany.
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