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Please guys, stay on topic.

This thread is about the situation in Iraq and Syria.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 18 2014 18:54 GMT
#5301
Breaking: A US airstrike has killed three IS leaders in Iraq.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 18 2014 19:48 GMT
#5302


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
URfavHO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States514 Posts
December 18 2014 23:54 GMT
#5303
Mount Sinjar: Islamic State siege broken, say Kurds

On the ground, about 8,000 Kurdish peshmerga fighters launched a two-pronged attack which they said had succeeded in opening a wide corridor to allow members of the Yazidi minority and others to leave.

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obviously this report is false since, you know, Kurds... jk
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23411 Posts
December 19 2014 00:08 GMT
#5304
On December 19 2014 04:48 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/EzidiPress/status/545631311130796032

https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/545656261975769088


Dangit, got all excited when I saw Beghdadi less so when I saw Deputy. Still a win though. Is this related to the 'unconfirmed' reports about the US engaging on the ground too?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-19 07:27:46
December 19 2014 07:22 GMT
#5305
Only occurrence that has happened was earlier this week when IS tried to overrun a base occupied by US personnel. IS was repulsed.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
December 19 2014 08:14 GMT
#5306
On December 19 2014 16:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Only occurrence that has happened was earlier this week when IS tried to overrun a base occupied by US personnel. IS was repulsed.


http://www.inquisitr.com/1686751/isis-attacks-american-base-in-iraq-in-first-ever-clash-with-u-s-troops/


http://english.shafaaq.com/index.php/politics/12492-first-ground-clash-between-isis-and-us-forces-in-iraq
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 19 2014 19:03 GMT
#5307


Combat footage of Peshmerga near Nehrewan.




FSA fighters fire multiple 'Hell Cannons' towards regime positions.


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-20 02:22:02
December 20 2014 02:19 GMT
#5308


DAMASCUS, Syria — Less than 24 hours after the announcement of the "liberation battle," the northern front in Syria witnessed accelerated developments as Jabhat al-Nusra and Jund al-Aqsa, with the participation of Ahrar al-Sham, seized the al-Hamidiyya and Wadi al-Daif camps on Dec. 15. These belonged to the Syrian army and are located in the southern countryside of Idlib. This significant development comes after two years of repeated attacks on the two camps that have been besieged by opposition fighters for 11 months.

Wadi al-Daif camp is located east of the town of Maarrat al-Numan, which was seized by rebels on Oct. 9, 2012. Al-Hamidiyya camp, which is adjacent to al-Hamidiyya village, is located south of the city of Maarrat al-Numan on the Damascus-Aleppo road. The two camps cover 13 kilometers (8 miles) in length and 3 kilometers (2 miles) in width.

Before the Syrian civil war, these two camps were the largest fuel reservoir for the Syrian army. But as the conflict erupted, the two camps turned into a gathering point for the Syrian armed forces, which used them as a base to launch shells and missiles toward the villages of Idlib’s countryside.

The two camps contain 40 military points, about 1,500 officers and elements of the Syrian army and 50 military vehicles, some of which were destroyed at an earlier stage by attacks on the two camps over the past two years. Helicopters were the only means to deliver supplies to the two besieged camps.

Abu Fadl, a Ahrar al-Sham member who participated in the battle, told Al-Monitor: "We started the operation with Jabhat al-Nusra with introductory artillery that lasted for three consecutive days. Jabhat al-Nusra used TAO missiles in the battle, which it looted from the Syria Revolutionaries Front after it expelled them and seized their warehouses last month."


Source
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 20 2014 20:43 GMT
#5309


Kurdish forces entering and attacking ISIS in Sinjar.


ERBIL, Kurdistan Region—Kurdish Peshmerga forces have killed dozens of Islamic State (ISIS) foreign fighters in three days of battle near the Syrian border, a frontline commander said.

Captain Ali, a Peshmerga commander near the town of Sinune said that his forces have killed more than 75 foreign fighters, among them Germans, Tunisians, Nigerians, Russians, Africans and Europeans.

“We have taken photos of their passports and IDs and their bodies still lie there,” Cpt. Ali told Rudaw.

He said that the ISIS militants are in disarray and they have fled in every direction, some of them to Mosul and others to Syria.

“Most of the militants around here are foreign nationals,” he said.


Source

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2115 Posts
December 21 2014 04:08 GMT
#5310
If the Iraqi army had its balls together & USA stop trying to interfere with Syria's shit this war would be over already !
John 15:13
sgtnoobkilla
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia249 Posts
December 21 2014 08:53 GMT
#5311
Darwin strikes again:
IS has executed 100 foreigners trying to quit: report

The Islamic State extremist group has executed 100 of its own foreign fighters who tried to flee their headquarters in the Syrian city of Raqqa, the Financial Times newspaper said Saturday.

An activist opposed to both IS and the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, who is well-known to the British business broadsheet, said he had "verified 100 executions" of foreign IS fighters trying to leave the jihadist group's de facto capital. IS fighters in Raqqa said the group has created a military police to clamp down on foreign fighters who do not report for duty. Dozens of homes have been raided and many jihadists have been arrested, the FT reported. Some jihadists have become disillusioned with the realities of fighting in Syria, reports have said.

According to the British press in October, five Britons, three French, two Germans and two Belgians wanted to return home after complaining that they ended up fighting against other rebel groups rather than Assad's regime. They were being held prisoner by IS.

In total, between 30 and 50 Britons want to return but fear they face jail, according to researchers at the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation at King's College London, which had been contacted by one of the jihadists speaking on their behalf.

.....

Source


Blindly signing up as cannon fodder and getting cold feet halfway through eh?
Don't play with your food unless it plays with you first.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
December 21 2014 10:06 GMT
#5312
On December 21 2014 17:53 sgtnoobkilla wrote:
Darwin strikes again:
Show nested quote +
IS has executed 100 foreigners trying to quit: report

The Islamic State extremist group has executed 100 of its own foreign fighters who tried to flee their headquarters in the Syrian city of Raqqa, the Financial Times newspaper said Saturday.

An activist opposed to both IS and the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, who is well-known to the British business broadsheet, said he had "verified 100 executions" of foreign IS fighters trying to leave the jihadist group's de facto capital. IS fighters in Raqqa said the group has created a military police to clamp down on foreign fighters who do not report for duty. Dozens of homes have been raided and many jihadists have been arrested, the FT reported. Some jihadists have become disillusioned with the realities of fighting in Syria, reports have said.

According to the British press in October, five Britons, three French, two Germans and two Belgians wanted to return home after complaining that they ended up fighting against other rebel groups rather than Assad's regime. They were being held prisoner by IS.

In total, between 30 and 50 Britons want to return but fear they face jail, according to researchers at the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation at King's College London, which had been contacted by one of the jihadists speaking on their behalf.

.....

Source

https://twitter.com/STForeignDesk/status/546304316277927937
Blindly signing up as cannon fodder and getting cold feet halfway through eh?

This is hilarious, karmic and good news. Truly a Christmas miracle.
URfavHO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States514 Posts
December 21 2014 10:16 GMT
#5313
from what I read in the BBC, many of the disillusioned returning fighters tend to share the trait of self-righteousness-- meaning that prior to travelling to the middle east most of the foreigners regarded themselves as saints or saviors of their faith. It can be observed in the isolated instances in Canada and Australia. So extremism attracts nut jobs, who would have thought? lol
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43131 Posts
December 21 2014 11:58 GMT
#5314
I don't know, I have a degree of empathy for them. Put yourself in the shoes of a second gen immigrant growing up in the one of the poorest parts of the UK, for example, unable to really buy into the British national identity cause you live in a tiny flat in a high crime shithole filled with people like you who have been priced out of the good areas with the good schools, no guarantee of employment, completely let down by capitalism, denied the means to access the goods that advertisers constantly barrage you with messages you deserve, no hope, no future. If some radical imam comes to you and says that the reason your life is shitty, the reason you feel alienated from your host nation, the reason all the meaning that the environment says you should find seems to glide off of you, is because you're living a sinful life in defiance of Allah then you might be young and dumb enough to believe that, especially if you were already religious. I mean what the fuck else do you have going on. Life left you with a giant vacuum and, if you're young, naive and not too bright, an authority figure could fill that will all kinds of shit.

I grew up British in Britain, the system was built for me. Rich parents, good school, university, didn't especially care for football but whatever, I still could have gone without worrying about racism etc. Looking down on the people who had a totally different experience of the system and being smug about making better choices is a worthless, masturbatory exercise. Yes, joining ISIS is pretty fucking dumb but going "lol, fuck those idiots, I hope they all die" is a very simplistic and pointless analysis which ignores the very real reasons why normal kids end up lost in a foreign country being executed by ISIS.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 21 2014 14:49 GMT
#5315






IS Firing Heavy Artillery Directly into Deir al Zor Airport.


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6298 Posts
December 21 2014 15:32 GMT
#5316
On December 21 2014 20:58 KwarK wrote:
I don't know, I have a degree of empathy for them. Put yourself in the shoes of a second gen immigrant growing up in the one of the poorest parts of the UK, for example, unable to really buy into the British national identity cause you live in a tiny flat in a high crime shithole filled with people like you who have been priced out of the good areas with the good schools, no guarantee of employment, completely let down by capitalism, denied the means to access the goods that advertisers constantly barrage you with messages you deserve, no hope, no future. If some radical imam comes to you and says that the reason your life is shitty, the reason you feel alienated from your host nation, the reason all the meaning that the environment says you should find seems to glide off of you, is because you're living a sinful life in defiance of Allah then you might be young and dumb enough to believe that, especially if you were already religious. I mean what the fuck else do you have going on. Life left you with a giant vacuum and, if you're young, naive and not too bright, an authority figure could fill that will all kinds of shit.

I grew up British in Britain, the system was built for me. Rich parents, good school, university, didn't especially care for football but whatever, I still could have gone without worrying about racism etc. Looking down on the people who had a totally different experience of the system and being smug about making better choices is a worthless, masturbatory exercise. Yes, joining ISIS is pretty fucking dumb but going "lol, fuck those idiots, I hope they all die" is a very simplistic and pointless analysis which ignores the very real reasons why normal kids end up lost in a foreign country being executed by ISIS.

There are many people around the world living in much worse conditions, living in fear of their slums being attacked and bulldozed by rich people, and yet they don't resort to beheading, raping and enslaving men/women/children. People of all walks of life are gullible enough to join sects/cults, but if you join a cult that make you believe raping and beheading people is somehow justified you are a monster. Save your sob story for someone else, you are a monster.

Only a sociopath can go from 'oh, my life is so shitty... I can't buy an Iphone the moment it come out, have to settle for the last generation. This first world is so cruel! I'm being oppressed!' to 'the solution is mass-murdering people'.

If you see video's of people being executed and getting their heads blown off and think to yourself 'gee, I wish I was there' the society in which you live would be a better place without you.
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43131 Posts
December 21 2014 15:37 GMT
#5317
Way to miss the point about dumb, overly simplistic explanations that don't go anywhere and instead just blaming monsters. Unfortunately monsters aren't real, ISIS are no less human than you are and are a problem which won't change until the human causes of ISIS are dealt with.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6298 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-21 16:54:04
December 21 2014 16:09 GMT
#5318
On December 22 2014 00:37 KwarK wrote:
Way to miss the point about dumb, overly simplistic explanations that don't go anywhere and instead just blaming monsters. Unfortunately monsters aren't real, ISIS are no less human than you are and are a problem which won't change until the human causes of ISIS are dealt with.

According to ISIS the only way they will stop is if the whole world bows to Sharia law. There are muslims from Serbia going to Syria, they live in their own regions/cities, are allowed to do whatever they want and live just as shitty as the rest of us. Bosnia has a problem with citizens acting like animals and going to Iraq, the muslim population govern themselves, they are the majority, they are white. Why is is so hard to admit some people are just scum, and want to go to a place where they can freely act like what they are?

Yet Bosnia is having an easier time dealing with radicals than other parts of Europe because being a muslim country, they have less qualms about oppressing and dealing with crazies who just happen to be muslims. They don't make excuses for them to fit some PC, Kumbaya 'lets not look at the elephant in the room because feelings could be hurt' agenda.

edit: maybe I'm coming off a bit confrontational but meh, muslims aren't special snowflakes. They don't become psychopaths because they didn't get the last piece of a cake or someone stole their bike, or their benefits check came in a day late. They just have a cause where all of their sociopaths can get funnel in to and feel at home with other horrible human beings.
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-21 21:24:17
December 21 2014 21:21 GMT
#5319
SHINGAl, Kurdistan Region - The Islamic State (ISIS) has executed more than 50 of its own militants as a warning to others about abandoning positions, after Peshmerga forces pushed the fighters out of vast areas of the Kurdistan Region, a Kurdish official said.

“ISIS has executed dozens of its own gunmen who fled from Shingal,” Ismat Rajab, a Kurdistan Democratic Party official, told Rudaw.

He said information had been obtained that the mass executions took place in the city of Mosul, which is still in ISIS control.


Source

No idea where to put this:

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2115 Posts
December 21 2014 22:36 GMT
#5320
On December 22 2014 06:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
SHINGAl, Kurdistan Region - The Islamic State (ISIS) has executed more than 50 of its own militants as a warning to others about abandoning positions, after Peshmerga forces pushed the fighters out of vast areas of the Kurdistan Region, a Kurdish official said.

“ISIS has executed dozens of its own gunmen who fled from Shingal,” Ismat Rajab, a Kurdistan Democratic Party official, told Rudaw.

He said information had been obtained that the mass executions took place in the city of Mosul, which is still in ISIS control.


Source

No idea where to put this:

https://twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/546773070154039296

Why am I not surprised... Western countries are especially prone to these kind of attacks as they lack any backbone

On a personal note, ill just put it out, I'm Christian, and we are taught to Love your Enemy, but God has it been hard lately...
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