EPTIraq & Syrian Civil Wars - Page 175
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Please guys, stay on topic. This thread is about the situation in Iraq and Syria. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Simberto
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arb
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zatic
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They had every reason they needed and still backed out. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On February 21 2014 19:15 zatic wrote: Haha that will be along wait. They had every reason they needed and still backed out. Do you think that could be because Obama is already unpopular enough? Or is there like some other reason maybe (my politics are pretty bad and this might not even be the correct thread) On another note, that picture of the streets before/after is pretty disturbing honestly | ||
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zatic
Zurich15366 Posts
On February 21 2014 19:17 arb wrote: Do you think that could be because Obama is already unpopular enough? Or is there like some other reason maybe (my politics are pretty bad and this might not even be the correct thread) On another note, that picture of the streets before/after is pretty disturbing honestly Because they really really really don't want to go into Syria, just like every other sensible person in the world. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On February 21 2014 19:23 zatic wrote: Because they really really really don't want to go into Syria, just like every other sensible person in the world. I guess the logical answer slipped my mind when talking about the US haha | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22476 Posts
The sad truth is that there is no good solution to the Syria problem. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6295 Posts
On February 21 2014 19:27 arb wrote: I guess the logical answer slipped my mind when talking about the US haha Recent wars haven't been very popular in the US either so that's another reason. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
On February 21 2014 04:45 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: That would mean time is on the side of the Rebels. Yeah, as long as the two al-Qaeda factions don't decimate each other. | ||
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TheFish7
United States2824 Posts
On February 22 2014 00:54 RvB wrote: Recent wars haven't been very popular in the US either so that's another reason. It's the primary reason. Plus Britain backing out? Tomahawk missiles are pretty cool though, we should have used a couple. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22476 Posts
On February 22 2014 16:10 TheFish7 wrote: It's the primary reason. Plus Britain backing out? Tomahawk missiles are pretty cool though, we should have used a couple. At who? Fire them at the government and your "aiding" terrorists. Fire at terrorists and your supporting the government. Fire at both and they both hate you for it and you don't know who will win still. The problem is that it is a 3 way war between dictator government / terrorists / people who want more freedom. And the lines between the last 2 are more and more blurred. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On February 22 2014 22:32 darkness wrote: US has already lost from Syria in my opinion. If the government wins, they already don't like US/West. If the opposition wins, well, there is an indication they have some terrorist background. A sadly common story in the MidEast. Either support the tyrannical dictator or let the country fall into the hands of radical Muslims. I've seen this story unfold many times in the past decade. | ||
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On February 22 2014 22:32 darkness wrote: US has already lost from Syria in my opinion. If the government wins, they already don't like US/West. If the opposition wins, well, there is an indication they have some terrorist background. Syria has been Iran's closest ally for some time, so there wasn't much to lose on that front. From a Realpolitik POW Syria has been a win for the US and its allies, though perhaps not as big a win they initially hoped for. | ||
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TheFish7
United States2824 Posts
On February 22 2014 22:09 Gorsameth wrote: At who? Fire them at the government and your "aiding" terrorists. Fire at terrorists and your supporting the government. Fire at both and they both hate you for it and you don't know who will win still. The problem is that it is a 3 way war between dictator government / terrorists / people who want more freedom. And the lines between the last 2 are more and more blurred. Obama wanted to hit military targets of Assad's. The idea had no popular support in the US and Britain had to back out. We are already supplying small arms to people who want more freedom. the most desirable outcome would be the FSA taking over and restoring order somehow. A lofty goal, I will admit. Perhaps impossible. But Assad having superior firepower isn't helping either. | ||
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TheRealArtemis
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On February 23 2014 04:13 TheFish7 wrote: Obama wanted to hit military targets of Assad's. The idea had no popular support in the US and Britain had to back out. We are already supplying small arms to people who want more freedom. the most desirable outcome would be the FSA taking over and restoring order somehow. A lofty goal, I will admit. Perhaps impossible. But Assad having superior firepower isn't helping either. Neither of them is desirable to take over. Even if Assad lost, the ISIS and Al-Nusra Front wouldnt just step aside and let FSA make their move. FSA might be be less radical then the other groups, but it isn't by much. Sometimes its like people think they are just a nice bunch of people that just want to live free, but forget that they actually don't like any people that doesn't have the same political and religious views as themselves. Personally I think the only future Syria has is with Assad. A dictator, but a dictator with infrastructure at least. Like with Iraq and Saddam when he was a still around, minorities were somewhat safe. Its gonna be open season if any of the religious affiliated groups gains power in that region. They have already exterminated several Christian towns. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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{CC}StealthBlue
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A suicide bomber has killed two Lebanese soldiers and a civilian with a car bomb near an army checkpoint in northeast Lebanese city of Hermel, security sources have said. The latest bombing, in a country destabilised by the civil war in neighbouring Syria, was the third such attack in recent weeks in Hermel, a predominantly Shia Muslim area of Lebanon near the border with Syria. The bomb was set off when soldiers at the checkpoint became suspicious of the man in the vehicle, a Jeep Grand Cherokee, the sources said. More than a dozen others were injured of which five are from the army and 10 are civilians. Source | ||
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