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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.
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Yes he's real but other than being somewhat unneccesary thing to post I don't see why you should get upset over it. Honestly I'm quite happy myself to live in a region that have no earthquakes or tsunamis.
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NEWS ADVISORY: Fuel rods at No. 2 reactor fully exposed for about 2.5 hours: agency -Kyodo
:S fully exposed rods sounds like meltdown is imminent
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On March 14 2011 22:14 HolydaKing wrote:Nothing wrong with what he said, or? I mean he's right that there are no earthquakes and tsunamis in europe (from what i know of). Questionable is if it is worth mentioning this right now. ^^
Thats what i thought.
Yes he's real but other than being somewhat unneccesary thing to post I don't see why you should get upset over it. Honestly I'm quite happy myself to live in a region that have no earthquakes or tsunamis.
I'm happy too, i live next to you and i didn't get upset because of it. But it really wasn't a worth mentioning right now, as holydaking kinda said. imo.
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On March 14 2011 22:20 fanta[Rn] wrote: NEWS ADVISORY: Fuel rods at No. 2 reactor fully exposed for about 2.5 hours: agency -Kyodo
:S fully exposed rods sounds like meltdown is imminent
weren't the rods fully exposed in the other reactors anyways? from what i understood, they flooded the containment vessel with sea water and didnt inject it directly into the core
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According to the press conference vibe was optimistic. Even though rods were exposed, remaining water in the reactor cooled rods down sufficiently (? probably).
Not sure what the status is now
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small update:
"Latest weather forecast from Fukushima, where the wind was blowing from the north a few hours ago, says the wind direction was due to change - about now - to blow from the south. When we have confirmation this is what's happened - and what exactly it means for the spread of radiation or other nuclear pollution, we'll let you know... "
I seriously hope that the wind doesn't spread the radiation to other places.
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On March 14 2011 18:44 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 18:42 dump wrote: NHK just listed all the nations providing relief crews.
China, Russia, Korea, France etc are all there -- but Canada's missing. Why? Wtf is going on??? Canada has been on standby for some time, but as of yet has not been requested. Normally people get flag-blind and take offense (as comments on the CBC web page will show). However there is a massive logistical operation happening, and it is no use bringing in more people until you have a plan for them.
I guess we finally get to send a team.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/03/13/canadian-medical-team-japan.html
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On March 14 2011 22:37 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 18:44 Manifesto7 wrote:On March 14 2011 18:42 dump wrote: NHK just listed all the nations providing relief crews.
China, Russia, Korea, France etc are all there -- but Canada's missing. Why? Wtf is going on??? Canada has been on standby for some time, but as of yet has not been requested. Normally people get flag-blind and take offense (as comments on the CBC web page will show). However there is a massive logistical operation happening, and it is no use bringing in more people until you have a plan for them. I guess we finally get to send a team. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/03/13/canadian-medical-team-japan.html
Sweet, from BC too.
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The video of the streaming i posted is already uped.
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13320454
Press conference for The foreign Correspondents'Club. Speaker is an ex-containment vessel engineer of TOSHIBA.
He gave an explanation of what's going on in Fukushima1 and referred to the danger of containment vessel (maybe only in Japan? from about 01:20:30)when it is hit by severe accident.
More specific than TV for me.
Edit: He comment about preparation for severe accident in the Japanese nuclear
industly and the administrative office from 01:33:18.
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I hear the american carrier has been withdrawn in fear of nuclear meltdown? sounds serious.
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On March 14 2011 22:54 mofuli wrote: I hear the american carrier has been withdrawn in fear of nuclear meltdown? sounds serious.
7th Fleet repositions ships after contamination detected From U.S. 7th Fleet Public Affairs
PACIFIC OCEAN (March 14, 2011) - The U.S. 7th Fleet has temporarily repositioned its ships and aircraft away from the Fukushima Dai-Ichi Nuclear Power Plant after detecting low level contamination in the air and on its aircraft operating in the area.
The source of this airborne radioactivity is a radioactive plume released from the Fukushima Dai-Ichi Nuclear Power Plant. For perspective, the maximum potential radiation dose received by any ship’s force personnel aboard the ship when it passed through the area was less than the radiation exposure received from about one month of exposure to natural background radiation from sources such as rocks, soil, and the sun.
The ship was operating at sea about 100 miles northeast of the power plant at the time.
Using sensitive instruments, precautionary measurements of three helicopter aircrews returning to USS Ronald Reagan after conducting disaster relief missions near Sendai identified low levels of radioactivity on 17 air crew members. The low level radioactivity was easily removed from affected personnel by washing with soap and water. They were subsequently surveyed, and no further contamination was detected.
As a precautionary measure, USS Ronald Reagan and other U.S. 7th Fleet ships conducting disaster response operations in the area have moved out of the downwind direction from the site to assess the situation and determine what appropriate mitigating actions are necessary.
We remain committed to our mission of providing assistance to the people of Japan.
http://www.cpf.navy.mil/media/news/articles/2011/mar/mar13_C7F_reposition.shtml
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That's not only a politician, he's our foreign minister. Such a dumb thing to say. Pardon the off-topic
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life is thick, just hope they save as many as they can.
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On March 14 2011 23:09 fanta[Rn] wrote:This is what Japanese convenient stores around Tokyo look like at the moment: http://www.twitpic.com/49fiah
news reports say they only have one banana for breakfast, a quater of an apple for lunch and an orange for dinner. the same for even children and the old.
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Could someone explain the crisis dealing with the possible meltdown? From what I am understanding that the plants are actually "offline" and not operating, which is why there hasn't been anything extremely serious. However why and how are they still overheating? Is there a concept about nuclear plants that I am missing?
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On March 14 2011 23:21 Fawkes wrote: Could someone explain the crisis dealing with the possible meltdown? From what I am understanding that the plants are actually "offline" and not operating, which is why there hasn't been anything extremely serious. However why and how are they still overheating? Is there a concept about nuclear plants that I am missing?
From reuters factbox -> http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/14/us-japan-quake-core-factbox-idUSTRE72D31720110314?pageNumber=1
However the natural decay of the radioactive materials in the reactor core continues to produce heat, called decay heat, which falls to a quarter of its original level in the first hour, and then disappears more slowly. It is important to cool the reactor cores because even though the chain reactions have stopped, there is still enough heat to melt the metal sheaths surrounding the uranium fuel. If these are hot enough they react chemically with the surrounding water, producing an explosive gas hydrogen.
I found that arcticle quite informative, even if I'm not an expert so I can't confirm it's reliable at 100%...
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On March 14 2011 23:21 Fawkes wrote: Could someone explain the crisis dealing with the possible meltdown? From what I am understanding that the plants are actually "offline" and not operating, which is why there hasn't been anything extremely serious. However why and how are they still overheating? Is there a concept about nuclear plants that I am missing?
Even though the reactors were shut down when the earthquake occured the reactions inside occur at thousands of degrees C. The residual heat from these reactions takes days to cool even with the help of the designed coolant systems. When the tsunami disabled these cooling systems the power plants were faced with the problem of days worth of residual heat that needs to be cooled and a system that is now malfunctioning.
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