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I feel strangely satisfied with myself, knowing I've gotten to the point where I can't be bothered to think about the past or about some sort of regret or secret I have to get off my chest.
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On May 02 2012 07:11 Deathmanbob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 07:06 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:On May 02 2012 07:06 Deathmanbob wrote:On May 02 2012 06:47 ampson wrote:
Out of all the girls who come on to me, about 70% are black, 20% asian, and 10% white. I'm white. It's quite uncanny. Not complaining though. girls come on to you yet you play sc2? i call bs!! jk jk if i really think about it, use logic and all that great stuff, i cant think of one good reason not to kill myself discuss? think about it, ill never do anything great, i wont go down in the history books, whats the point? You can say people will miss you, who cares you're dead what about all the things you have yet to do, who cares you're dead blah blah blah, who cares you're dead really i don't get why everyone doesn't kill themselves once they found out the failed to make this history books
Maybe try from the other side, can you think of any good reason TO kill yourself? From your description of life, there doesn't seem to be any good reason to take your life either!
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On May 02 2012 07:50 Deathmanbob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 07:35 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:On May 02 2012 07:25 Deathmanbob wrote:On May 02 2012 07:22 Arathore wrote:
Perhaps the fact that your composed of simple elements constructed in incredibly complex ways that we are not fully able to understand. And that those elements are constructed in a way in which we are able to achieve consciousness and be aware of our surrounds and be able to move, think, feel ect. And we exist on a small speck that is suitable for life and everywhere else in the universe that we know of so far is inhabitable for humans.
To kill yourself would be to take all these things for granted and that I feel is a shame. but you never asked for it, it was thrust onto you. I guess you can argue for the pure randomness that happened to spawn you shouldnt be wasted but then you can also argue because it is pure randomness why should you keep it. to make it clear, i am never going to kill myself, I rather like living and the life i lead. It is just that i can not really think of a GOOD reason that is logical to not kill myself. I guess its the same as me believing in god, sure all logic points to it being dumb but damn it i still believe I don't believe in god either. And I wasn't going to argue the things you mentioned, rather what peterblue mentioned. When we called out your argument you must have felt something. Maybe anger that we had such stupid opinions and were arguing with you. In that instance of time you acted like a human being: emotionally. When you try to look at things from the perspective of the cosmos, you're not following existentialism. When you look at things from the perspective of a human (your only real perspective) then you can see the significance of the things you do, towards yourself. If you eat, you can live. If you sleep you aren't tired. Read up on existentialism. For me that was the aha moment that made it so I never asked if life had significance again. i could be wrong but your argument is for the small picture (small in the idea that our lifetimes are small in the scale of man kind) and i am arguing for the big picture (i see this as being remembered as important) What you say all makes sense for the small picture, but in the end none of it matters. My argument is if you look at the big picture, none of us matter 
I think wanting yourself to be remembered is a part of wanting to be significant in this world. In that sense I thought it had more in common with what I was saying.
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Another confession. I learned how to shoot a bow and arrow today. I am worried I may accidentally kill someone.
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On May 02 2012 07:47 Deathmanbob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 07:38 niteReloaded wrote:On May 02 2012 07:19 Deathmanbob wrote:On May 02 2012 07:16 Peterblue wrote:On May 02 2012 07:11 Deathmanbob wrote:On May 02 2012 07:06 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:On May 02 2012 07:06 Deathmanbob wrote:On May 02 2012 06:47 ampson wrote:
Out of all the girls who come on to me, about 70% are black, 20% asian, and 10% white. I'm white. It's quite uncanny. Not complaining though. girls come on to you yet you play sc2? i call bs!! jk jk if i really think about it, use logic and all that great stuff, i cant think of one good reason not to kill myself discuss? think about it, ill never do anything great, i wont go down in the history books, whats the point? You can say people will miss you, who cares you're dead what about all the things you have yet to do, who cares you're dead blah blah blah, who cares you're dead really i don't get why everyone doesn't kill themselves once they found out the failed to make this history books I enjoy living, and I've never had a care about making history. A desire to make history is for those who have a waste of a life, those without anything else to live for. If the only reason you do something is for everyone else to know that you did it then there is something seriously wrong with you. That is an absolutely terrible way to live. Live the way you want to live, not the way the way that you think others want you to live. and when you are dead you will be gone, you will never be remembered.... it will be like you were never there at all, really, in the end, did you live? will anyone care? also if the way i want to live is for people to remember me when im gone why is that a terrible way to live? if i want to live that way that seems like the best way to live to me. How you live is one of the dumbest things in the world to me, we will just have to disagree If I want to win in SC by 6pooling, who are you to tell me it's a terrible way to go about it??? Do you get me? If you told a newbie 6pool sucks, he could easily reply that. But if you're good, it's obvious to you 6pool sucks. The same way your approach to live is so obviously flawed in the eyes of the people who know better. The purpose of life is joy, doing what you enjoy, what makes you excited - anything else is missing the point. 6 pool wins games all the way up to GM, that argument does not work. To you doing what you enjoy is living life, to others doing something important is the point, To me you are missing the point, not the other way around
Okay, if you're playing the semantics card, replace winning at SC with winning a GSL with only practicing 6pool. The point was that it's an inferior strategy, that a dumb player may think is 'legit'.
Don't you see that you're doing the important things because you believe it ultimately brings you a good feeling? But it goes the longer route, because somebody has to praise you for doing it (even if it's the conditioned voice in your head you think it's yours). It's much easier to simply do what makes you happy directly.
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Wish I could post in threads like this... but far too many people can associate my tag with my name.
Great read though.
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Another confession... definitely never told this to anyone
When I was in 6th grade I kicked this cute little asian girl (same class as me) in the leg and made her cry. I have no idea why I did it. I think she liked me too. I had her in another class when I was a junior in high school but she never said a word to me, and I unfortunately didn't have the balls to ever go up to her and say "hey, I'm sorry I kicked you in elementary school, I have no idea why I did it but I am so, so sorry."
I think that is my biggest regret from my life during the first 15 years... She was such a nice, cute girl. Probably could have been my first girlfriend if I wasn't such a fucking weirdo.
I hope I see her again at some point in the future so that I can apologize.
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On May 02 2012 09:03 rhs408 wrote:
Another confession... definitely never told this to anyone
When I was in 6th grade I kicked this cute little asian girl (same class as me) in the leg and made her cry. I have no idea why I did it. I think she liked me too. I had her in another class when I was a junior in high school but she never said a word to me, and I unfortunately didn't have the balls to ever go up to her and say "hey, I'm sorry I kicked you in elementary school, I have no idea why I did it but I am so, so sorry."
I think that is my biggest regret from my life during the first 15 years... She was such a nice, cute girl. Probably could have been my first girlfriend if I wasn't such a fucking weirdo.
That happens to everyone, but don't make the same mistake again by thinking so much about that girl instead of paying attention to new ones!
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On May 02 2012 09:06 Voltaire wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 09:03 rhs408 wrote:
Another confession... definitely never told this to anyone
When I was in 6th grade I kicked this cute little asian girl (same class as me) in the leg and made her cry. I have no idea why I did it. I think she liked me too. I had her in another class when I was a junior in high school but she never said a word to me, and I unfortunately didn't have the balls to ever go up to her and say "hey, I'm sorry I kicked you in elementary school, I have no idea why I did it but I am so, so sorry."
I think that is my biggest regret from my life during the first 15 years... She was such a nice, cute girl. Probably could have been my first girlfriend if I wasn't such a fucking weirdo. That happens to everyone, but don't make the same mistake again by thinking so much about that girl instead of paying attention to new ones!
I've had a girlfriend for 7 years now (I'm 32 years old) so that's not an issue, but even after all this time I still get pissed at myself when I think about it. Why on earth would I kick a girl... I think on that day I bought myself a fuckload of bad karma.
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On May 02 2012 08:28 LaughingTulkas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 07:11 Deathmanbob wrote:On May 02 2012 07:06 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:On May 02 2012 07:06 Deathmanbob wrote:On May 02 2012 06:47 ampson wrote:
Out of all the girls who come on to me, about 70% are black, 20% asian, and 10% white. I'm white. It's quite uncanny. Not complaining though. girls come on to you yet you play sc2? i call bs!! jk jk if i really think about it, use logic and all that great stuff, i cant think of one good reason not to kill myself discuss? think about it, ill never do anything great, i wont go down in the history books, whats the point? You can say people will miss you, who cares you're dead what about all the things you have yet to do, who cares you're dead blah blah blah, who cares you're dead really i don't get why everyone doesn't kill themselves once they found out the failed to make this history books Maybe try from the other side, can you think of any good reason TO kill yourself? From your description of life, there doesn't seem to be any good reason to take your life either!
Why do you define your life as successful only if you get into a history book? Your goal shouldn't be to get into a history book, that should just be something that happens along the way if you live a good life and it happens to happen, You can't really control it except by taking super extreme measures. Just live life. Go through school, make friends, get a job, have a family and live. They'll remember you, and the respect and love of a few you know is worth more than the admiration of millions who you will never see or know of.
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On May 02 2012 09:06 Voltaire wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 09:03 rhs408 wrote:
Another confession... definitely never told this to anyone
When I was in 6th grade I kicked this cute little asian girl (same class as me) in the leg and made her cry. I have no idea why I did it. I think she liked me too. I had her in another class when I was a junior in high school but she never said a word to me, and I unfortunately didn't have the balls to ever go up to her and say "hey, I'm sorry I kicked you in elementary school, I have no idea why I did it but I am so, so sorry."
I think that is my biggest regret from my life during the first 15 years... She was such a nice, cute girl. Probably could have been my first girlfriend if I wasn't such a fucking weirdo. That happens to everyone, but don't make the same mistake again by thinking so much about that girl instead of paying attention to new ones!
wait... kicking girls happen to everyone?? :/ is that what i've been doing wrong all these years?
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On May 02 2012 09:16 nttea wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 09:06 Voltaire wrote:On May 02 2012 09:03 rhs408 wrote:
Another confession... definitely never told this to anyone
When I was in 6th grade I kicked this cute little asian girl (same class as me) in the leg and made her cry. I have no idea why I did it. I think she liked me too. I had her in another class when I was a junior in high school but she never said a word to me, and I unfortunately didn't have the balls to ever go up to her and say "hey, I'm sorry I kicked you in elementary school, I have no idea why I did it but I am so, so sorry."
I think that is my biggest regret from my life during the first 15 years... She was such a nice, cute girl. Probably could have been my first girlfriend if I wasn't such a fucking weirdo. That happens to everyone, but don't make the same mistake again by thinking so much about that girl instead of paying attention to new ones! wait... kicking girls happen to everyone?? :/ is that what i've been doing wrong all these years?
Wow I can actually remember that I kicked a girl in kindergarden or something and made her cry but it was because she stole a toy from me. I can't really recall clearly but I do remember that I was a complete asshole back then...lol
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I recently got poison ivy two days ago. I am VERY prone to it, having it twice already, so bad that I was confined to a couch for 2 weeks because my knees were so swelled up. I have a small amount of it on my ballsack. God damnit it sucks. Also have it on my face and neck pretty badly. It's brutal. 
I can't go riding on my supermoto because my cheekpad in my helmet would rub on the ivy.
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me and a friend had a jerkoff contest in 6th grade in the bathroom, in stalls next to eachother. first to come wins. i won
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That is straight fucked bro. ^^
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On May 02 2012 07:50 Deathmanbob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 07:35 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:On May 02 2012 07:25 Deathmanbob wrote:On May 02 2012 07:22 Arathore wrote:
Perhaps the fact that your composed of simple elements constructed in incredibly complex ways that we are not fully able to understand. And that those elements are constructed in a way in which we are able to achieve consciousness and be aware of our surrounds and be able to move, think, feel ect. And we exist on a small speck that is suitable for life and everywhere else in the universe that we know of so far is inhabitable for humans.
To kill yourself would be to take all these things for granted and that I feel is a shame. but you never asked for it, it was thrust onto you. I guess you can argue for the pure randomness that happened to spawn you shouldnt be wasted but then you can also argue because it is pure randomness why should you keep it. to make it clear, i am never going to kill myself, I rather like living and the life i lead. It is just that i can not really think of a GOOD reason that is logical to not kill myself. I guess its the same as me believing in god, sure all logic points to it being dumb but damn it i still believe I don't believe in god either. And I wasn't going to argue the things you mentioned, rather what peterblue mentioned. When we called out your argument you must have felt something. Maybe anger that we had such stupid opinions and were arguing with you. In that instance of time you acted like a human being: emotionally. When you try to look at things from the perspective of the cosmos, you're not following existentialism. When you look at things from the perspective of a human (your only real perspective) then you can see the significance of the things you do, towards yourself. If you eat, you can live. If you sleep you aren't tired. Read up on existentialism. For me that was the aha moment that made it so I never asked if life had significance again. i could be wrong but your argument is for the small picture (small in the idea that our lifetimes are small in the scale of man kind) and i am arguing for the big picture (i see this as being remembered as important) What you say all makes sense for the small picture, but in the end none of it matters. My argument is if you look at the big picture, none of us matter
Deathbob, you should read some Socrates. You know what being immortal means?
It either means: bringing knowledge to the world i. e. make works and books like Socrates, Plato, Aristotles, Homer etc.
Or, it can mean having a child with someone, and through them become immortal. Make them a great person. Yes, YOU might not do something directly to change the world, but the people you change, the people you "make" might be the ones who as you say "mattered" for the bigger picture.
You think Obamas grandfather did anything? I mean, he is not immortal, in the way you would use the word. He didn't write books, bring knowledge, do anything big. But you know what, through his offspring he IS immortal and through that, if he hadn't existed, we wouldn't have Obama.
That's kinda what Socrates says, anyway.
You mean both more and less than you and I know, I think. Don't give up on life just cause "it wont amount to anything". That's up for you to decide, and it isn't. Who's to say, that by writing this message you didn't change someones life, and they'll attain greatness. Every day can be something, if you chose.
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I don't have enough confidence to tell my crush about my feelings. What also bothers me is she changes her opinion about things frequently, so I don't know if I should experiment with shaky mood, lol. Or it might be just me trying to find reasons to justify not revealing myself. F*ck.
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On May 02 2012 08:28 LaughingTulkas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 07:11 Deathmanbob wrote:On May 02 2012 07:06 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:On May 02 2012 07:06 Deathmanbob wrote:On May 02 2012 06:47 ampson wrote:
Out of all the girls who come on to me, about 70% are black, 20% asian, and 10% white. I'm white. It's quite uncanny. Not complaining though. girls come on to you yet you play sc2? i call bs!! jk jk if i really think about it, use logic and all that great stuff, i cant think of one good reason not to kill myself discuss? think about it, ill never do anything great, i wont go down in the history books, whats the point? You can say people will miss you, who cares you're dead what about all the things you have yet to do, who cares you're dead blah blah blah, who cares you're dead really i don't get why everyone doesn't kill themselves once they found out the failed to make this history books Maybe try from the other side, can you think of any good reason TO kill yourself? From your description of life, there doesn't seem to be any good reason to take your life either!
the only reason i could think of would be that in the end life does not matter, or the small impact we have as a person on the whole does not matter is what i mean to say. I really have no intention of killing myself and i really feel sad when people do kill themselves. Just in the end do any of our lives REALLY matter? look at yourself, in 300 years is what you are doing now going to matter? if it doesnt why did you even live?
its a weird way to look at it but it is a valid question
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I wish I could live long enough to see how earth/life ends or how (if) humanity will be able to live in another planet.
If you think about it, it kinda sucks to die before knowing how the movie ends :/
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