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From http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2011/01/25/yo-quiero-isolated-oat-product/
Where's the beef? According to a class action lawsuit filed by the Beasley Allen law firm out of Montgomery, Alabama, it's certainly not in Taco Bell's "taco meat filling."
The "seasoned ground beef" contains less than 35 percent beef - the other 65 percent of the meat-like mixture is: water, isolated oat product, salt, chili pepper, onion powder, tomato powder, oats (wheat), soy lecithin, sugar, spices, maltodextrin, soybean oil (anti-dusting agent), garlic powder, autolyzed yeast extract, citric acid, caramel color, cocoa powder (processed with alkali), silicon dioxide (anti-caking agent), natural flavors, yeast, modified corn starch, natural smoke flavor, salt, sodium phosphate, less than 2% of beef broth, potassium phosphate and potassium lactate.
Whew, did you get all that? Oh, there's also caramel color and natural smoke flavor added.
Taco bell was my favorite fast food and the beef grilled stuff burrito is amazing. I think I will only be getting chicken products from them now as the lawsuit contends that the chicken and carne asada have been tested and are what they are claimed to be.
No wonder their meat tastes so good though, it's all salty and sugary.
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What do you have against oats?
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its tilting how companies always find ways to sell u less meat. Like its common practice to fill chicken with salt and flood it with water so u pay water at meat prize. Just gotta nitpick ur meat better I guess.
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Nobody who has eaten Taco Bell's beef thinks that it's real beef. I mean come on, it's the grossest thing on the menu by a landslide.
Bean Burritos all the way.
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On January 26 2011 02:29 GoTuNk! wrote:
its tilting how companies always find ways to sell u less meat. Like its common practice to fill chicken with salt and flood it with water so u pay water at meat prize. Just gotta nitpick ur meat better I guess.
I just hope carl's jr is like that because I seriously love the beef there more than any other place. I'm going to look into it.
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Some of the articles have really cleaver titles "Taco Bell Accused of Not 'Meat'ing Standards." "Lawsuit Claims That Taco Bell's Meat Is Indeed a Mystery" "Taco Bell 'beef': mostly not beef"
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Is that a problem? I mean, when I make tacos they aren't 100% beef, they're probably 90% beef and 10% filler. I realize the ratio is off here, but the top ingredients are still food. Oats, water, chili, tomato, garlic, etc.
I don't eat there often, but I guess I just don't see the issue.
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In unrelated news, the USDA requires beef taco filling to be at least 40% meat to satisfy requirements.
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Think about it this way:
You can enjoy meat in abundance while saving the lifes of 65% of else doomed cows.
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On January 26 2011 02:41 ggrrg wrote:
Think about it this way:
You can enjoy meat in abundance while saving the lifes of 65% of else doomed cows.
mmm no. The cow will die regardless and some1 else will eat the portion you were entitled to ;p
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hmm... yeah i never expected the beef to be truly mostly beef. i mean i still ate it because it tasted good, but i didn't expect it to be all beef. if i want cheap nasty but tasty fast mexican food, ill get my taco bell. if i want real stuff, ill go elsewhere or make it myself.
but at least it's confirmed.
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On January 26 2011 02:37 Chill wrote:
Is that a problem? I mean, when I make tacos they aren't 100% beef, they're probably 90% beef and 10% filler. I realize the ratio is off here, but the top ingredients are still food. Oats, water, chili, tomato, garlic, etc.
I don't eat there often, but I guess I just don't see the issue.
I fully expect a product labeled "beef" to be at least like 51% beef.
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A guy about ten years ago who worked at Taco Bell told me the boxes of beef actually said "Beef flavored oat product" or something on them. But I was never able to verify this and thought he was making stuff up. Guess not.
Does it really matter, though? Did you really eat Taco Bell because you thought you were getting beef or did you eat it because it tasted fairly good and is dirt cheap? Surely you're not upset that the quality of Taco Bell product isn't quite what you thought it was.
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On January 26 2011 02:58 darmousseh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2011 02:37 Chill wrote:
Is that a problem? I mean, when I make tacos they aren't 100% beef, they're probably 90% beef and 10% filler. I realize the ratio is off here, but the top ingredients are still food. Oats, water, chili, tomato, garlic, etc.
I don't eat there often, but I guess I just don't see the issue. I fully expect a product labeled "beef" to be at least like 51% beef.
Its the fact that many stupid assumptions like this are so common that is the cause for so many lawyers and silly class-action lawsuits like this one in the US
Edit: I just realized you are the OP and I'm wondering if you know what "yo quiero" means xD
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Fuck, I thought Taco Bell imported their beef from Mishima. Then made it super cheap cause they are just a kind-hearted business. Not cool Taco Bell.
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lol guy eat food
guy gets informed what in the food
guy wont eat the food
Come on you ate it before you got informed, so the food is perfectly fine according to your own standards >.<
Dont blame taco foods, blame yourself.
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On January 26 2011 03:03 gogogadgetflow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2011 02:58 darmousseh wrote:On January 26 2011 02:37 Chill wrote:
Is that a problem? I mean, when I make tacos they aren't 100% beef, they're probably 90% beef and 10% filler. I realize the ratio is off here, but the top ingredients are still food. Oats, water, chili, tomato, garlic, etc.
I don't eat there often, but I guess I just don't see the issue. I fully expect a product labeled "beef" to be at least like 51% beef. Its the fact that many stupid assumptions like this are so common that is the cause for so many lawyers and lawsuits in the US
Well I think the lawsuit is kinda pointless, but I think it might force taco bell to put up a little asterik that says "beef contains XX% beef product. More details upon request" on their menu and commercials somewhere.
On January 26 2011 03:01 Vehemus wrote:
A guy about ten years ago who worked at Taco Bell told me the boxes of beef actually said "Beef flavored oat product" or something on them. But I was never able to verify this and thought he was making stuff up. Guess not.
Does it really matter, though? Did you really eat Taco Bell because you thought you were getting beef or did you eat it because it tasted fairly good and is dirt cheap? Surely you're not upset that the quality of Taco Bell product isn't quite what you thought it was.
No, I did think that what I was getting was at least like 80% beef though. I do understand why their prices are so cheap now. I will still go there probably, but will get my chicken burrito instead, even though that grilled stuff burrito is truly amazing.
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On January 26 2011 03:06 Slow Motion wrote:
Fuck, I thought Taco Bell imported their beef from Mishima. Then made it super cheap cause they are just a kind-hearted business. Not cool Taco Bell.
I don't know why this made me laugh so much hahaha.
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On January 26 2011 03:06 exeexe wrote:
lol guy eat food
guy gets informed what in the food
guy wont eat the food
Come on you ate it before you got informed, so the food is perfectly fine according to your own standards >.<
Dont blame taco foods, blame yourself.
Guy eats chili
guy gets informed chili is actually the remains of his parents
guy won't eat the chili anymore
[From southpark]
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oddly enough this makes me feel slightly healthier about eating at Taco Bell.
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This is why you shouldn't eat Americanized fake ethnic food. With few exceptions, it's usually gross. I liked that comment about the little chihuahua, though.
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They should eliminate the beef altogether and sell them as vegetarian.
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I'm not a vegetarian, but I'm laughing out loud at the OP for saying he's going to eat the product with the most meat, as if oats are some how horrible to be eating (when you couldn't even tell before).
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i'll still eat there, in fact, this thread makes me really fucking hungry for tacos
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On January 26 2011 02:37 Chill wrote:
Is that a problem? I mean, when I make tacos they aren't 100% beef, they're probably 90% beef and 10% filler. I realize the ratio is off here, but the top ingredients are still food. Oats, water, chili, tomato, garlic, etc.
I don't eat there often, but I guess I just don't see the issue.
Its an issue of false advertising I believe, personally I also don't eat Taco Bell very often, and when I do I knew along time ago the beef wasn't 100% beef. Basically all fast food places use some kind of filler in their meats, and as far as fillers go the one Taco Bell is using is actually not horrendous for ones health unlike some of the other ones. So as I already stated I think the lawsuits are because people are being told they get 100% beef and they aren't (but I haven't seen '100% Beef' on a sign at a Taco Bell), and has little to do with health issues as a result of the beef.
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The actual "beef" is probably the nastiest bits of the cow that they can scrounge up anyways.
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Starfries is right
Taco bell uses grade D beef
Grade E is whats in dog food
So its the cheapest beef they can legally sell you, and its only 35% of what it could be.
It's still fucking delicious, I don't care what any of you say.
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On January 26 2011 03:03 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Edit: I just realized you are the OP and I'm wondering if you know what "yo quiero" means xD
rofl
good catch
+ Show Spoiler +
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What's with all the beef about taco beef?
Did you think it was high quality meat? I'm actually glad its oats, soy and all that stuff instead of being lard for ex.
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Oats or not, Taco Bell is still delicious.
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On January 26 2011 07:21 13_Doomblaze_37 wrote:
Starfries is right
Taco bell uses grade D beef
Grade E is whats in dog food
So its the cheapest beef they can legally sell you, and its only 35% of what it could be.
It's still fucking delicious, I don't care what any of you say.
Sorry, but this is objectively false.
http://www.snopes.com/food/prepare/badmeat.asp
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On January 26 2011 02:25 darmousseh wrote:From http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2011/01/25/yo-quiero-isolated-oat-product/Show nested quote +
Where's the beef? According to a class action lawsuit filed by the Beasley Allen law firm out of Montgomery, Alabama, it's certainly not in Taco Bell's "taco meat filling."
The "seasoned ground beef" contains less than 35 percent beef - the other 65 percent of the meat-like mixture is: water, isolated oat product, salt, chili pepper, onion powder, tomato powder, oats (wheat), soy lecithin, sugar, spices, maltodextrin, soybean oil (anti-dusting agent), garlic powder, autolyzed yeast extract, citric acid, caramel color, cocoa powder (processed with alkali), silicon dioxide (anti-caking agent), natural flavors, yeast, modified corn starch, natural smoke flavor, salt, sodium phosphate, less than 2% of beef broth, potassium phosphate and potassium lactate.
Whew, did you get all that? Oh, there's also caramel color and natural smoke flavor added.
Taco bell was my favorite fast food and the beef grilled stuff burrito is amazing. I think I will only be getting chicken products from them now as the lawsuit contends that the chicken and carne asada have been tested and are what they are claimed to be. No wonder their meat tastes so good though, it's all salty and sugary.
why was taco bell your favourite fast food? they've been known to use grade F meat for ages...
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I've never liked Taco Bell, first off their service is terrible at every location around me. Second off, the food just tastes bad to me. Not sure what it is but I feel so nasty when I eat that stuff, it has only been 3 times but just the thought of the place makes me feel dirty...
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Well, looks like Chipotle all the way now for some good mexican food
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On January 26 2011 14:25 FinestHour wrote:
Well, looks like Chipotle all the way now for some good mexican food
Chipotle is terrible imo. Don't know how people eat it.
Freebirds is where it's at yo.
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On January 26 2011 02:37 Chill wrote:
Is that a problem? I mean, when I make tacos they aren't 100% beef, they're probably 90% beef and 10% filler. I realize the ratio is off here, but the top ingredients are still food. Oats, water, chili, tomato, garlic, etc.
I don't eat there often, but I guess I just don't see the issue.
I'm with Chill here. I mean, when I eat Chef Boyardee, I fully expect it to be anything but beef. If you're already a Taco Bell eater, this shouldn't change anything for you. Did you really think you were paying 69cents for a taco with 80% beef in it? I suppose it is a little sketchy from a legal standpoint though.
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Who cares, it still tastes good. I will definitely continue to eat Taco Bell as it is delicious!
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I sort of mimic Chill's impression that it's all still food anyway, so I'm cool with it if it's true. Mainly because Taco Bell tacos are my favorite food to eat at anytime, and they're pretty damn cheap.
Also it looks like Taco Bell is challenging the lawsuit, rejecting the claims.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110125/ap_on_bi_ge/us_taco_bell_lawsuit
I suppose it'll be interesting to follow, but I'm definitely going to continue eating at Taco Bell regardless. In fact, I think I might go down the street for a late night snack before the GSL starts. :D
Edit: The lawyer suing apparently has never even eaten at Taco Bell, or so he told a CNN reporter while she was on the phone with him. (eating a taco from Taco Bell at the same time lol!)
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On January 26 2011 02:37 Chill wrote:
Is that a problem? I mean, when I make tacos they aren't 100% beef, they're probably 90% beef and 10% filler. I realize the ratio is off here, but the top ingredients are still food. Oats, water, chili, tomato, garlic, etc.
I don't eat there often, but I guess I just don't see the issue.
^this
also just wondering. The oats and isolated something protein seem to be most of the replacement, could those actually be healthier? Any nutritionists around?
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Taco Bell turns out to be healthier than expected, and some fans are upset? Lulz.
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On January 26 2011 07:33 Craton wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2011 03:03 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Edit: I just realized you are the OP and I'm wondering if you know what "yo quiero" means xD rofl good catch + Show Spoiler +
ha, yes I just copy pasted the title from one of the articles cause i thought it was amusing (the yo quiero taco bell dog).
Me personally, no quiero isolated oat product.
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Yeah pretty much all processed foods in North America are buffered with genetically modified "Roundup-Ready" zombie soy. Just read the ingredients label on anything in your local grocery store; everything has soy. If it doesn't say "organic" its most certainly GMO. Best to avoid it, buy organic.
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I think I'm going to get taco bell today, this story just makes me want it.
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Fuck it man, I'm down to go to taco bell right now.
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Where the hell do you guys live in the US that is so devoid of Mexicans that you'd go to Taco Bell?
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On January 27 2011 02:53 andrewlt wrote:
Where the hell do you guys live in the US that is so devoid of Mexicans that you'd go to Taco Bell?
Not to be a jerk but I'd rather not eat at a family Mexican restaurant when I know 90% of the money will be leaving the country rather than being fed back into the local economy.
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On January 27 2011 02:53 andrewlt wrote:
Where the hell do you guys live in the US that is so devoid of Mexicans that you'd go to Taco Bell?
Taco Bell isn't Mexican food. It's its own category of delicious food.
Also, the extra stuff is pretty much what they put in Boca burgers. But the main ingredients are still beef and water. And the USDA regs are irrelevant; those are regulations for butchers, not for prepared restaurant food. Obviously you don't want your raw ground beef to have added water (per USDA regs), but it's kind of a necessity when making taco meat. Stupid lawsuit is stupid.
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I've always thought Del Taco > Taco Bell. This bolsters my case
![[image loading]](http://www.pe.com/imagesdaily/2007/06-20/girod_taco.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://couponcravings.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/chicken-soft-taco.jpg)
Fuck yeah
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Unless they can show that they were explicitly hiding this fact, or advertising that it is more than 35% beef, this is a non-issue. People can buy and sell whatever they damn please.
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I love Taco Bell. This story does nothing but make me want more. Personally, I prefer their bean-burritos, because I think they are way better stuffed. But this story definitely will lead to a bit of a marketing and advertising change in YUM brands (they own Taco Bell), so lets just see what happens.
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Another thumbs up for Chipotle, parents never took me to these kinds of fast food restaurants, now i know why.
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On January 27 2011 03:26 ZeaL. wrote:
I've always thought Del Taco > Taco Bell. This bolsters my case
Del Taco is so much better than Taco Hell! I used to go there all the time when I went to school in Cali. Unfortunately it's almost nonexistent in the east. I cried when i found out my state was not a Del Taco state 
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Luckily, I live in San Diego, home to the best authentic Mexican food in the US (arguably). There are mom and pop taco shops on just about every corner. I loathe Taco Bell because I'm spoiled. Also, the term "meat filling" is vomit-inducing.
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On January 27 2011 03:26 ZeaL. wrote:I've always thought Del Taco > Taco Bell. This bolsters my case + Show Spoiler +Fuck yeah
omg i want
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On January 27 2011 04:05 arterian wrote:omg i want
I know. I don't recall Del Taco ever having a carnitas taco, though.
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Honestly the beef consists of maybe 30% of the entire taco or less. They really skimp on it to maximize profits. It tastes good, is made of food, and isn't going to kill you if you have 1-2 tacos.
Chipotle is way overpriced IMO. Again the meat is 30-40% of the taco/burrito what have you. They put rice in their food to fill you up to make you think you got your money's worth.
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On January 27 2011 04:07 randomKo_Orean wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 03:26 ZeaL. wrote:I've always thought Del Taco > Taco Bell. This bolsters my case Fuck yeah What are those two called?
They're called the marketing material tacos. They actually look like that in real life too!
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On January 27 2011 03:51 NearPerfection wrote:
Another thumbs up for Chipotle, parents never took me to these kinds of fast food restaurants, now i know why.
You can't compare Chipolte to Taco Bell. I can walk out of Bell with two or three 5 layer burritos and be stuffed for under three dollars.
Chipolte costs me around ten and doesn't even fill me up.
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On January 27 2011 04:36 holynorth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 03:51 NearPerfection wrote:
Another thumbs up for Chipotle, parents never took me to these kinds of fast food restaurants, now i know why. You can't compare Chipolte to Taco Bell. I can walk out of Bell with two or three 5 layer burritos and be stuffed for under three dollars. Chipolte costs me around ten and doesn't even fill me up.
But its so good it's worth it
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Does this surprise anyone? C'mon. OF COURSE the damn mixture is loaded with salts and sugars. If you don't like it they have steak and chicken fillers.
Who cares? If it taste good, eat it... So as long it has less than 1% human flesh.
On January 27 2011 04:45 Rakanishu2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 04:36 holynorth wrote:On January 27 2011 03:51 NearPerfection wrote:
Another thumbs up for Chipotle, parents never took me to these kinds of fast food restaurants, now i know why. You can't compare Chipolte to Taco Bell. I can walk out of Bell with two or three 5 layer burritos and be stuffed for under three dollars. Chipolte costs me around ten and doesn't even fill me up. But its so good it's worth it
I hate that place. If I wanted a soggy beef burrito I can make 1 at home and better.
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On January 27 2011 04:07 randomKo_Orean wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 03:26 ZeaL. wrote:I've always thought Del Taco > Taco Bell. This bolsters my case Fuck yeah What are those two called?
The top one is their carbon tacos (carbOWN not c12 carbon). Other one is chicken soft taco. Also, while the actual food you get doesn't look exactly like that its pretty close, a lot closer than the promo big macs vs real big macs.
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On January 26 2011 07:08 starfries wrote:
The actual "beef" is probably the nastiest bits of the cow that they can scrounge up anyways.
And they've managed to make it delicious. Good on them! 
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As long as it isn't infested or fatally toxic to me, and as long as they do not give me blatantly incorrect nutritional information (if it really had 200 more calories on average than they would say or something) then I don't give a shit.
How someone can be upset that a company puts a lot of extra stuff in their food that is found in other foods as well that you can buy is beyond me.
On January 26 2011 03:08 darmousseh wrote:
Guy eats chili
guy gets informed chili is actually the remains of his parents
guy won't eat the chili anymore
[From southpark]
I see what you are trying to say but could you use an example that doesn't involve murder?
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Taco Bells owns Pepsi, Pepsi is sponsoring the GSL. They could commit murder and i'd be ok with it
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Am I the only one who hates Taco Bell? Their food has always seemed pretty disgusting to me. The authentic places where you gotta order in Spanish is where it's at. Other than that, Chipotle is decent and I don't know if any of you have Moe's in your area. (I think it's only in the South/Southeast, cheaper version of Chipotle).
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On January 27 2011 05:01 SgtRock wrote:Taco Bells owns Pepsi, Pepsi is sponsoring the GSL. They could commit murder and i'd be ok with it
PepsiCo owned Taco Bell, and apparently they don't anymore. Taco Bell is now a subsidary of Yum! Foods.
Yum!
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On January 27 2011 04:49 ZeaL. wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 04:07 randomKo_Orean wrote:On January 27 2011 03:26 ZeaL. wrote:I've always thought Del Taco > Taco Bell. This bolsters my case Fuck yeah What are those two called? The top one is their carbon tacos (carbOWN not c12 carbon). Other one is chicken soft taco. Also, while the actual food you get doesn't look exactly like that its pretty close, a lot closer than the promo big macs vs real big macs.
Big macs look a ton more like their promos than I am sure that chicken taco looks like its promo. Big macs have one of the most realistic promos of all fast foods because they are served in a box and don't get smashed down like all other fast food.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/eileen216/2717412119/in/set-72157603845661064/
vs
http://www.flickr.com/photos/eileen216/2528589823/in/set-72157604463682679/
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There's news today about a 5 foot Komodo dragon that escaped in Riverside. The number of people making Taco Bell jokes in the comments is hilarious.
And to the above, Yum! Foods is a spin-off from Pepsico.
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On January 27 2011 04:52 Ownos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2011 07:08 starfries wrote:
The actual "beef" is probably the nastiest bits of the cow that they can scrounge up anyways. And they've managed to make it delicious. Good on them!
I guess you're into things like squid and dog and lizard. Good on ya!
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On January 27 2011 04:36 holynorth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 03:51 NearPerfection wrote:
Another thumbs up for Chipotle, parents never took me to these kinds of fast food restaurants, now i know why. You can't compare Chipolte to Taco Bell. I can walk out of Bell with two or three 5 layer burritos and be stuffed for under three dollars. Chipolte costs me around ten and doesn't even fill me up.
I don't know man. It's $6 here for a chicken burrito bowl + tortilla on the side, with free student drink.
Fills me very nicely.
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I think most everyone who is concerned about what they put into their body mostly didn't eat taco bell or most fast food to begin with.
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I'm more concerned about the genetically modified deathfood and the unknown repurcussions of eating all those preservatives.
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Not going to stop me from eating there. Taco Bell is THE place for fake mexican food, no where else compares with it.
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On January 27 2011 06:13 Jswizzy wrote:
I think most everyone who is concerned about what they put into their body mostly didn't eat taco bell or most fast food to begin with.
I think this is pretty accurate.
I kind of have a love/hate relationship with Taco Bell. I was really hungry the first time I ever ate there and the food tasted fantastic which set a high expectation that the restaurant has never been able to fulfill on subsequent visits. Some menu items are good, some are really bad. I guess you can't argue that it isn't cheap. I eat there every now and then.
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I hate chipotle for the fact that its not gourmet food enough like other mexican restaurants yet the price isn't fast food price either. Its the worst combination of both.
Food itself is good though. I like it.
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I love el pollo loco, but they got rid of my favorite item (jalepeno nachos) so i don't eat there anymore.
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"Thank you for suing us" haha. Gonna reread some of the responses in this thread for lulz now.
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On January 29 2011 03:02 gogogadgetflow wrote:"Thank you for suing us" haha. Gonna reread some of the responses in this thread for lulz now.
hahahaha nice. I feel slightly better now.
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Yeah, we should definitely just eat chicken products from now on, there's no way they're grosser than what they do to beef! owait
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/YXIkr.jpg)
That's what your chicken nuggets looked like
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