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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 02:53:54
August 14 2014 02:53 GMT
#781
I would think SpaceX would win the contract just cause they already have experience working with NASA. Obviously Boeing is a huge competitor, but I really hope SpaceX gets the contract as they were willing to push the envelope on human space travel.
Life?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 14 2014 18:19 GMT
#782
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 15 2014 00:13 GMT
#783
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11929 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-15 06:02:39
August 15 2014 06:00 GMT
#784
On August 07 2014 02:58 Gorsameth wrote:
Until the emDrive can get us cheaply and efficiently off the planet and into space I really don't care a whole lot what rules it may or may not break.


The main usage seen for it (if it works properly outside of a lab) is to propel things once in space. Replace the fuel in satellites or the fuel used to travel between stellar bodies. Since it just requires electric solar cells or nuclear power it lasts MUCH longer than conventional low powered propulsion methods.

One article discussed cutting the travel time to Mars to 1/3 of the current one with a much lighter craft.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
August 15 2014 07:44 GMT
#785
On August 07 2014 02:58 Gorsameth wrote:
Until the emDrive can get us cheaply and efficiently off the planet and into space I really don't care a whole lot what rules it may or may not break.


Technically speaking, the emDrive (or Quantum Vacuum) is only usable in non-atmospheric environment. So that means it can only be used in Space as an upper stage propulsion system. So it cannot get us directly into space but it can be use to travel to far away planets more efficiently.

But without fuel requirement for the engine, that means the upper stage would have lower mass, thus require lower amount of fuel to get the upper stage into orbit.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 15 2014 16:44 GMT
#786
Between Dragon Capsule 2 and emDrive, things are starting to look up for the human race in space travel for once in our day and age.
Life?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 19 2014 18:22 GMT
#787
Space Exploration Technologies, the commercial space transportation startup founded by Elon Musk with ambitions to land people on Mars, is raising investment that values the company somewhere south of $10 billion, TechCrunch has learned.

These new details are emerging while SpaceX, as the company is more commonly known, continues to make advances with its own spacecraft and rack up more agreements for future commercial and government launches. The company also potentially faces stiffer competition from other commercial firms that are looking to compete more aggressively in the new space race.

The latest capital infusion includes a large secondary investment, which appears to be somewhere in the region of $200 million. This confirms some of the details published in April this year by Quartz, which cited a source reporting that the company might be raising between $50 million and $200 million.

TechCrunch understands that among those investing in SpaceX are international financiers making secondary investments, but also investment firms in the U.S. such as Draper Fisher Jurvetson. DFJ has been a past investor and it also noted, in May, that it is making an investment in SpaceX out of its latest $470 million fund; Blumberg Capital is another name that TechCrunch has heard in connection with SpaceX financing.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
August 21 2014 16:47 GMT
#788
On August 20 2014 03:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
Space Exploration Technologies, the commercial space transportation startup founded by Elon Musk with ambitions to land people on Mars, is raising investment that values the company somewhere south of $10 billion, TechCrunch has learned.

These new details are emerging while SpaceX, as the company is more commonly known, continues to make advances with its own spacecraft and rack up more agreements for future commercial and government launches. The company also potentially faces stiffer competition from other commercial firms that are looking to compete more aggressively in the new space race.

The latest capital infusion includes a large secondary investment, which appears to be somewhere in the region of $200 million. This confirms some of the details published in April this year by Quartz, which cited a source reporting that the company might be raising between $50 million and $200 million.

TechCrunch understands that among those investing in SpaceX are international financiers making secondary investments, but also investment firms in the U.S. such as Draper Fisher Jurvetson. DFJ has been a past investor and it also noted, in May, that it is making an investment in SpaceX out of its latest $470 million fund; Blumberg Capital is another name that TechCrunch has heard in connection with SpaceX financing.


Source


This turned out to be a false rumour.


“SpaceX is not currently raising any funding nor has any external valuation of that magnitude or higher been done,” SpaceX communications director John Taylor wrote in an email to Gigaom. “The source in this report is mistaken.”


http://gigaom.com/2014/08/19/spacex-reportedly-raising-massive-funding-round-valued-at-10b/

Would be interesting to know how much SpaceX is worth. Last number I remember was around 4-5bn last year (based on an internal funding round).

In other SpaceX news, NASA's decision on the Commercial Crew program is coming up. NASA will select the company or companies that will build and operate the spacecraft to transport US astronauts to the International Space Station. The main contestants are Boeing's CST-100, SNC's Dream Chaser spaceplane and SpaceX's Dragon V2. Decision is expected on either Aug 22. (tomorrow) or Aug 29.

SpaceX has said they will continue developing the Dragon whether they get the contract or not. Boeing said they don't plan to continue development if they don't win.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11929 Posts
August 21 2014 17:59 GMT
#789
On August 22 2014 01:47 hypercube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 03:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Space Exploration Technologies, the commercial space transportation startup founded by Elon Musk with ambitions to land people on Mars, is raising investment that values the company somewhere south of $10 billion, TechCrunch has learned.

These new details are emerging while SpaceX, as the company is more commonly known, continues to make advances with its own spacecraft and rack up more agreements for future commercial and government launches. The company also potentially faces stiffer competition from other commercial firms that are looking to compete more aggressively in the new space race.

The latest capital infusion includes a large secondary investment, which appears to be somewhere in the region of $200 million. This confirms some of the details published in April this year by Quartz, which cited a source reporting that the company might be raising between $50 million and $200 million.

TechCrunch understands that among those investing in SpaceX are international financiers making secondary investments, but also investment firms in the U.S. such as Draper Fisher Jurvetson. DFJ has been a past investor and it also noted, in May, that it is making an investment in SpaceX out of its latest $470 million fund; Blumberg Capital is another name that TechCrunch has heard in connection with SpaceX financing.


Source


This turned out to be a false rumour.

Show nested quote +

“SpaceX is not currently raising any funding nor has any external valuation of that magnitude or higher been done,” SpaceX communications director John Taylor wrote in an email to Gigaom. “The source in this report is mistaken.”


http://gigaom.com/2014/08/19/spacex-reportedly-raising-massive-funding-round-valued-at-10b/

Would be interesting to know how much SpaceX is worth. Last number I remember was around 4-5bn last year (based on an internal funding round).

In other SpaceX news, NASA's decision on the Commercial Crew program is coming up. NASA will select the company or companies that will build and operate the spacecraft to transport US astronauts to the International Space Station. The main contestants are Boeing's CST-100, SNC's Dream Chaser spaceplane and SpaceX's Dragon V2. Decision is expected on either Aug 22. (tomorrow) or Aug 29.

SpaceX has said they will continue developing the Dragon whether they get the contract or not. Boeing said they don't plan to continue development if they don't win.


I read an article where the PR person for Boeing said they would look at into it. Which means they would most likely cancel the project, not that they would for certain. Can't find it now though. :/
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
August 21 2014 18:23 GMT
#790
On August 22 2014 02:59 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 01:47 hypercube wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Space Exploration Technologies, the commercial space transportation startup founded by Elon Musk with ambitions to land people on Mars, is raising investment that values the company somewhere south of $10 billion, TechCrunch has learned.

These new details are emerging while SpaceX, as the company is more commonly known, continues to make advances with its own spacecraft and rack up more agreements for future commercial and government launches. The company also potentially faces stiffer competition from other commercial firms that are looking to compete more aggressively in the new space race.

The latest capital infusion includes a large secondary investment, which appears to be somewhere in the region of $200 million. This confirms some of the details published in April this year by Quartz, which cited a source reporting that the company might be raising between $50 million and $200 million.

TechCrunch understands that among those investing in SpaceX are international financiers making secondary investments, but also investment firms in the U.S. such as Draper Fisher Jurvetson. DFJ has been a past investor and it also noted, in May, that it is making an investment in SpaceX out of its latest $470 million fund; Blumberg Capital is another name that TechCrunch has heard in connection with SpaceX financing.


Source


This turned out to be a false rumour.


“SpaceX is not currently raising any funding nor has any external valuation of that magnitude or higher been done,” SpaceX communications director John Taylor wrote in an email to Gigaom. “The source in this report is mistaken.”


http://gigaom.com/2014/08/19/spacex-reportedly-raising-massive-funding-round-valued-at-10b/

Would be interesting to know how much SpaceX is worth. Last number I remember was around 4-5bn last year (based on an internal funding round).

In other SpaceX news, NASA's decision on the Commercial Crew program is coming up. NASA will select the company or companies that will build and operate the spacecraft to transport US astronauts to the International Space Station. The main contestants are Boeing's CST-100, SNC's Dream Chaser spaceplane and SpaceX's Dragon V2. Decision is expected on either Aug 22. (tomorrow) or Aug 29.

SpaceX has said they will continue developing the Dragon whether they get the contract or not. Boeing said they don't plan to continue development if they don't win.


I read an article where the PR person for Boeing said they would look at into it. Which means they would most likely cancel the project, not that they would for certain. Can't find it now though. :/


This might be relevant:

http://www.spacenews.com/article/civil-space/40931boeing-preparing-layoff-notices-in-case-of-commercial-crew-loss


The 60-day notices, required under the federal Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act (WARN), were distributed June 20 to about 170 employees in Houston and 45 in Florida in case Boeing is not selected for an upcoming Commercial Crew Transportation Capability (CCtCap) contract, Boeing spokesman Adam Morgan told SpaceNews.
[...]
“I think it would be hard to close a business case without that backstop of NASA development funds,” Mulholland said.


Not quite conclusive but close.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 21 2014 22:34 GMT
#791
HOUSTON, Aug. 21, 2014 (Boeing PR) – Boeing [NYSE: BA] recently completed the Phase Two Spacecraft Safety Review of its Crew Space Transportation (CST)-100 spacecraft and the Critical Design Review (CDR) of its integrated systems, meeting all of the company’s Commercial Crew Integrated Capability (CCiCap) milestones on time and on budget.

The reviews were Boeing’s final two milestones in the current phase of its partnership with NASA. Completed in July, the CDR milestone marks a significant step in reaching the ultimate design that will be used for the spacecraft, launch vehicle and related systems. Propulsion, software, avionics, landing, power and docking systems were among 44 individual CDRs conducted as part of the broader review.

“The challenge of a CDR is to ensure all the pieces and sub-systems are working together,” said John Mulholland, Boeing Commercial Crew program manager. “Integration of these systems is key. Now we look forward to bringing the CST-100 to life.”

The CST-100 is being developed as part of NASA’s Commercial Crew Program, which aims to make crew transportation systems available for low-Earth orbit destinations such as the International Space Station by 2017. The capsule could accommodate up to seven crew members or a mix of crew and cargo and features a weld less structure, wireless internet and Boeing LED “Sky Lighting” technology.

The Phase Two Spacecraft Safety Review included an overall hazard analysis of the spacecraft, identifying life-threatening situations and ensuring that the current design mitigated any safety risks.


Source

SpaceX's Dragon V2 Manned Spacecraft: How it Works (Infographic)

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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-23 00:01:23
August 23 2014 00:00 GMT
#792
Breaking:

Rocket has blown up at SpaceX launch facility.




https://twitter.com/EthansMommy17/status/502951421713469440/photo/1
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-23 09:46:25
August 23 2014 00:27 GMT
#793

“Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly.”

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Article




GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 23 2014 02:13 GMT
#794
In other news:

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 23 2014 02:27 GMT
#795
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 24 2014 03:15 GMT
#796
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 26 2014 19:09 GMT
#797
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
August 26 2014 20:40 GMT
#798
Todays launched scrubbed.


GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 28 2014 20:13 GMT
#799


F9R-Dev1 had a blocked Sensor Port.

http://www.spacex.com/news/2014/08/26/update-asiasat-6-mission

SpaceX’s Commercial Crew contender, the Dragon V2, will initially return to terra firma under parachutes, assisted by a SuperDraco soft touchdown firing, according to Dragon V2 Program Lead Dr. Garrett Reisman. Eventually, the impressive spacecraft will employ pinpoint propulsive landings, once the technology has been matured via the DragonFly test program.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 02 2014 18:05 GMT
#800
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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