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kef
Profile Joined September 2010
283 Posts
October 09 2011 16:25 GMT
#1921
I use the same bose headphones Day9 uses for his dailies (I got them before I started watching sc2) and they're awesome for listening to music. I got them right before going on a trip to Japan and I couldn't decide if I wanted them or the noise cancelling ones (for the airplane ride) but I didn't like the noise cancelling ones because the frequency of the sound-cancelling noise gave me a headache.
There are two kinds of people in this world: people who say there are two kinds of people in the world and people who know the first group of people are full of shit.
Brian333
Profile Joined August 2010
657 Posts
October 09 2011 16:44 GMT
#1922
I know these are ear buds so it might be out of place in this thread, but I was thinking about getting the Ultimate Ear TripleFi 10s but I'm wondering why there is such a huge price variation? And, if that price variation has anything to do with quality?
Team .SCA
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States327 Posts
October 09 2011 16:52 GMT
#1923
Tt ESPORTS Shock ftw!
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GotTheLife
Profile Joined October 2011
91 Posts
October 09 2011 19:28 GMT
#1924
On October 09 2011 17:45 GotTheLife wrote:
hello people, I am looking into buying a new set of headphones. I bought the Razer Carcharias some months ago, and these were the first headphones I've bought. I used to just use random ear buds or a crappy mic for like $20 lol. I was super impressed by them, and I despise using ipod headphones or anything like that now. Anyway, I'm looking into buying some good quality headphones, but I'm not too sure what I want, so I'll ask a few questions.

Would you people recommend a gaming headset, or just get a clip on mic and a good quality pair of headphones?

If you recommend a gaming headset, I know that Steelseries and Razer are the two main companies, but what about Soundblaster? They sponsor Complexity if you didn't know, and I really like the way they look and how they have a detachable mic. Does anyone have experience with this brand, and are they good?

I listen to a lot of music, mostly metal, so lots of distortion and heavy chords. Idk if this should affect my decision on what type of headphones to get. (MY BUDGET IS ABOUT 100$!!!!)

OH and one more question: is it better to get analog or usb?

Sorry for all the questions guys, but it would help me a lot if you guys could answer! :D TY!~~

Anyone? Please? T_T
Not changing sig until Clide wins a GSL! | Started 10/10/11
Alerosin
Profile Joined June 2011
England23 Posts
October 09 2011 19:32 GMT
#1925
I have a pair of the Bose 15 headphones. They're really good for everything, great sound for music
aepal
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands123 Posts
October 09 2011 19:37 GMT
#1926
Could anyone give me advice on a good headset with a better then average mic on it? I need good sound but the microphone plays a big role as well. Does anyone have confirmation on what headphones are being used in IPL 3? I heard they are the ASTROA40. If this is the case i will go for this one. Please advise <3
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 19:51:07
October 09 2011 19:44 GMT
#1927
On October 10 2011 04:37 aepal wrote:
Could anyone give me advice on a good headset with a better then average mic on it? I need good sound but the microphone plays a big role as well. Does anyone have confirmation on what headphones are being used in IPL 3? I heard they are the ASTROA40. If this is the case i will go for this one. Please advise <3


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=126262

Headset =/= Headphones

Here we will always advise you to get a good set of headphones, and get a clip on mic.
It'll cost you about the same, and have better sound quality.

Edit: MLG uses the A40s, i don't know what the IPL uses. They're sponsered by razer, so i'm guessing its the Barracudas
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 19:59:01
October 09 2011 19:52 GMT
#1928
On October 10 2011 01:44 Brian333 wrote:
I know these are ear buds so it might be out of place in this thread, but I was thinking about getting the Ultimate Ear TripleFi 10s but I'm wondering why there is such a huge price variation? And, if that price variation has anything to do with quality?


It's because week by week, the quality goes up and down!

No really, it's the same for most higher-end audio playback stuff...
  • Relatively high profit margins (compared to stuff like food, many other electronics, and so on)
  • Quality and value of one product versus another is highly subjective
  • Relatively low volume of product manufactured, sold, and kept in stock, so availability and demand don't match up consistently

A couple things to keep in mind when buying expensive IEMs. Many including the UE TripleFi 10s are multi balanced armature designs with two key traits that make them relatively challenging:
  • low impedance that varies a lot over the frequency range
  • really high sensitivity

The extreme variations in the impedance over frequency mean that out of sources with higher output impedance, you can get significant (generally undesirable) changes in the frequency response. Compared to most other headphones, there is a higher level of interaction between the source and load (the IEMs).

The high sensitivity means that given a certain source and volume level, they will be significantly louder than even most IEMs and earbuds. Of course, they can't differentiate between the signal and the noise, so the noise of some sources will be plainly audible with such sensitive IEMs. And you may be stuck using say volume 1-5 out of 50 of a hypothetical volume control, to get reasonable levels.

Why not use an inline impedance adapter to mitigate the noise? That's just adding output impedance to the source, thus mucking up the frequency response, as described earlier.

So make sure your source is not too noisy and hopefully has low output impedance, or be prepared to use an external amp with low output impedance and low noise. Many people say that the sound quality is well worth the trouble. And it's not that much trouble if your source is good.


On October 10 2011 04:28 GotTheLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 17:45 GotTheLife wrote:
hello people, I am looking into buying a new set of headphones. I bought the Razer Carcharias some months ago, and these were the first headphones I've bought. I used to just use random ear buds or a crappy mic for like $20 lol. I was super impressed by them, and I despise using ipod headphones or anything like that now. Anyway, I'm looking into buying some good quality headphones, but I'm not too sure what I want, so I'll ask a few questions.

Would you people recommend a gaming headset, or just get a clip on mic and a good quality pair of headphones?

If you recommend a gaming headset, I know that Steelseries and Razer are the two main companies, but what about Soundblaster? They sponsor Complexity if you didn't know, and I really like the way they look and how they have a detachable mic. Does anyone have experience with this brand, and are they good?

I listen to a lot of music, mostly metal, so lots of distortion and heavy chords. Idk if this should affect my decision on what type of headphones to get. (MY BUDGET IS ABOUT 100$!!!!)

OH and one more question: is it better to get analog or usb?

Sorry for all the questions guys, but it would help me a lot if you guys could answer! :D TY!~~

Anyone? Please? T_T


Depends on your priorities. If you want better sound quality, I'd go with the better headphones and separate mic. A lot of cheap consumer-level (including gamer-marketed stuff) headsets are not so durable, particularly in the mic. The more retractable/bending/whatever adjustments the mic has, the more prone it is to dying. At least with quality headphones and a clip-on mic, if the mic dies, you can just replace the mic.

There are lots of headphones suggestions around. Some people say Grado is great for metal, but the earpads and design are really not for everyone. They're also not suitable if you want some closed headphones with some level of passive noise attenuation.

edit: if you'd really prefer something with a microphone, and don't mind headphones that sit on the ear, and don't already have a quality sound card, I'd recommend the Beyerdynamic MMX 2 (about $80):
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/580472-REG/Beyerdynamic_485896_MMX_2_Digital_Gaming.html
http://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-MMX-Multimedia-Digital-Microphone/dp/B001BYOY42

The headphone-only version is the DT 235, a pretty good ~$50 headphone.
GotTheLife
Profile Joined October 2011
91 Posts
October 09 2011 20:17 GMT
#1929
On October 10 2011 04:52 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 01:44 Brian333 wrote:
I know these are ear buds so it might be out of place in this thread, but I was thinking about getting the Ultimate Ear TripleFi 10s but I'm wondering why there is such a huge price variation? And, if that price variation has anything to do with quality?


It's because week by week, the quality goes up and down!

No really, it's the same for most higher-end audio playback stuff...
  • Relatively high profit margins (compared to stuff like food, many other electronics, and so on)
  • Quality and value of one product versus another is highly subjective
  • Relatively low volume of product manufactured, sold, and kept in stock, so availability and demand don't match up consistently

A couple things to keep in mind when buying expensive IEMs. Many including the UE TripleFi 10s are multi balanced armature designs with two key traits that make them relatively challenging:
  • low impedance that varies a lot over the frequency range
  • really high sensitivity

The extreme variations in the impedance over frequency mean that out of sources with higher output impedance, you can get significant (generally undesirable) changes in the frequency response. Compared to most other headphones, there is a higher level of interaction between the source and load (the IEMs).

The high sensitivity means that given a certain source and volume level, they will be significantly louder than even most IEMs and earbuds. Of course, they can't differentiate between the signal and the noise, so the noise of some sources will be plainly audible with such sensitive IEMs. And you may be stuck using say volume 1-5 out of 50 of a hypothetical volume control, to get reasonable levels.

Why not use an inline impedance adapter to mitigate the noise? That's just adding output impedance to the source, thus mucking up the frequency response, as described earlier.

So make sure your source is not too noisy and hopefully has low output impedance, or be prepared to use an external amp with low output impedance and low noise. Many people say that the sound quality is well worth the trouble. And it's not that much trouble if your source is good.


Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 04:28 GotTheLife wrote:
On October 09 2011 17:45 GotTheLife wrote:
hello people, I am looking into buying a new set of headphones. I bought the Razer Carcharias some months ago, and these were the first headphones I've bought. I used to just use random ear buds or a crappy mic for like $20 lol. I was super impressed by them, and I despise using ipod headphones or anything like that now. Anyway, I'm looking into buying some good quality headphones, but I'm not too sure what I want, so I'll ask a few questions.

Would you people recommend a gaming headset, or just get a clip on mic and a good quality pair of headphones?

If you recommend a gaming headset, I know that Steelseries and Razer are the two main companies, but what about Soundblaster? They sponsor Complexity if you didn't know, and I really like the way they look and how they have a detachable mic. Does anyone have experience with this brand, and are they good?

I listen to a lot of music, mostly metal, so lots of distortion and heavy chords. Idk if this should affect my decision on what type of headphones to get. (MY BUDGET IS ABOUT 100$!!!!)

OH and one more question: is it better to get analog or usb?

Sorry for all the questions guys, but it would help me a lot if you guys could answer! :D TY!~~

Anyone? Please? T_T


Depends on your priorities. If you want better sound quality, I'd go with the better headphones and separate mic. A lot of cheap consumer-level (including gamer-marketed stuff) headsets are not so durable, particularly in the mic. The more retractable/bending/whatever adjustments the mic has, the more prone it is to dying. At least with quality headphones and a clip-on mic, if the mic dies, you can just replace the mic.

There are lots of headphones suggestions around. Some people say Grado is great for metal, but the earpads and design are really not for everyone. They're also not suitable if you want some closed headphones with some level of passive noise attenuation.

edit: if you'd really prefer something with a microphone, and don't mind headphones that sit on the ear, and don't already have a quality sound card, I'd recommend the Beyerdynamic MMX 2 (about $80):
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/580472-REG/Beyerdynamic_485896_MMX_2_Digital_Gaming.html
http://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-MMX-Multimedia-Digital-Microphone/dp/B001BYOY42

The headphone-only version is the DT 235, a pretty good ~$50 headphone.

Hm, I'd prefer to have over the ear headphones, mic is not an issue I can just get a clip on one or something, do you have any recommendations? Ty~! :D
Not changing sig until Clide wins a GSL! | Started 10/10/11
ArcticVanguard
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States450 Posts
October 09 2011 22:23 GMT
#1930
Looking to buy some headphones since my POS headset broke and I am no longer in need of a microphone. Has anyone used the Shure SRH-440? Are there any other sets around that price range that one would recommend over them? I basically need a durable(ish) headset I can use to practice bass guitar with, but still be good for listening to music. I listen to a lot of Rush and Iron Maiden, basically a lot of hard rock/metal.
"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." ~C.S. Lewis
GotTheLife
Profile Joined October 2011
91 Posts
October 09 2011 23:11 GMT
#1931
Yeah I've been looking at the Shure SRH-440's, does anyone here have them and are they good?
Not changing sig until Clide wins a GSL! | Started 10/10/11
HuggyBear
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia377 Posts
October 10 2011 00:03 GMT
#1932
Yep the SRH-440's pretty good for the price. If you can stretch a bit the SRH-840's are a good step above
"Sleeping with SeLeCT is Standard. Once you've slept with Day9 everything else is just ..." - CatZ
Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
October 10 2011 00:15 GMT
#1933
I'm a total noob with headphones, I've used speakers pretty much all my life. Anyways I'm looking to buy a quality COMFORTABLE headset for gaming (so I will need a mic) within the 100-200$ price range. Anyone have any suggestions?
buhhy
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1113 Posts
October 10 2011 00:20 GMT
#1934
Bought a pair of Yuin OK3's, read good things about them. Hope they are good.
ArcticVanguard
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States450 Posts
October 10 2011 02:05 GMT
#1935
On October 10 2011 09:03 HuggyBear wrote:
Yep the SRH-440's pretty good for the price. If you can stretch a bit the SRH-840's are a good step above

Is it worth the extra money? Really?
"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." ~C.S. Lewis
Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
October 10 2011 02:16 GMT
#1936
just became a proud owner of Brainwavz M3s :D

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LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
October 10 2011 02:52 GMT
#1937
On October 10 2011 04:44 Fishgle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 04:37 aepal wrote:
Could anyone give me advice on a good headset with a better then average mic on it? I need good sound but the microphone plays a big role as well. Does anyone have confirmation on what headphones are being used in IPL 3? I heard they are the ASTROA40. If this is the case i will go for this one. Please advise <3


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=126262

Headset =/= Headphones

Here we will always advise you to get a good set of headphones, and get a clip on mic.
It'll cost you about the same, and have better sound quality.

Edit: MLG uses the A40s, i don't know what the IPL uses. They're sponsered by razer, so i'm guessing its the Barracudas


IPL is using Astro A40's, Razer haven't made Barracudas in years, and usually in the studio they use the Razer Charcharias.

Headsets are nice for playing FPS games(you can srsly hear the exact location of every shot with these SS Siberia v2's not approximately like my ATH A700's) , but for RTS games+ music, a good pair of headphones+ a cheapass mic does the job.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51553 Posts
October 10 2011 04:08 GMT
#1938
if you live in aus; 11 ultimate ears 200's for $45 including delivery.

http://www.logitechshop.com.au/ultimate-ears-200-earphones-polybag1.html

that comes to around $4.90 for a pair... bargain.
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nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 10:25:51
October 10 2011 10:25 GMT
#1939
I've been looking around at different cheaper headphones and found a few I like. The problem I need a fairly long cable and most of the ones I've been looking at are too short for what I need. Since I'm not very knowledgable when it comes to these things I was wondering how well it works to buy an extension cable? Are there any risks with compability, sound issues or something. Is it better to try and find one that comes with a longer cable? It feels like that would be cheaper but I don't know how much they factor that into the price of the headphones.
Scalepad
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden366 Posts
October 10 2011 10:35 GMT
#1940
So, my birthday is coming up and I didn't really need anything, until my old headset broke. I bought a new one, Steelseries 5Hv2, but it is AWFUL, and seeing this thread I thought of perhaps asking for proper headphones for my birthday instead, and a table microphone or similar.

Any tips? I don't have a soundcard, just using my motherboard's on-board sound system thingy, so I guess I won't get the most out of them, but I'm sure they will have better sound than this headset.
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