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Agarvaen
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland16 Posts
June 16 2012 23:27 GMT
#3521
Does sound quality of headphones degrade in time or in other words how long would a pair of mid range cans (300$) last, assuming they would be used 6h / day ?
DERPDERP
Profile Joined October 2010
Kyrgyzstan189 Posts
June 16 2012 23:52 GMT
#3522
On June 17 2012 08:27 Agarvaen wrote:
Does sound quality of headphones degrade in time or in other words how long would a pair of mid range cans (300$) last, assuming they would be used 6h / day ?


As far as I know they sound only gets better, at least when comparing new and used headphones.. Sorta like running in a new car :D
8)
QuoC
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States724 Posts
June 17 2012 02:17 GMT
#3523
headphone noob here.
looking for a headset that has really nice bass but can still maintain clean sound (meaning I don't want my headphones rattling with bass and unable to hear the lyrics to a song). I listen to trance, rap/hip-hop. Budget is $350.. was going to go with Beats Pro by Dre, but I thought I'd give this a chance. Thread looks promising.

Thanks so much guys, any advice/recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
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QuackPocketDuck
Profile Joined January 2011
410 Posts
June 17 2012 02:35 GMT
#3524
On June 17 2012 11:17 QuoC wrote:
headphone noob here.
looking for a headset that has really nice bass but can still maintain clean sound (meaning I don't want my headphones rattling with bass and unable to hear the lyrics to a song). I listen to trance, rap/hip-hop. Budget is $350.. was going to go with Beats Pro by Dre, but I thought I'd give this a chance. Thread looks promising.

Thanks so much guys, any advice/recommendations would be greatly appreciated!


Awesome start budget guessing your second pair of headphones will be around at $1k mark! you are on the right track :D
I suggest looking at studio monitoring / hi fi closed back set of headphones, you naturally get more bass on closed back design (trying to not be bias towards certains brands)

Not getting Beats is a good idea, if you dont trust all the flame wars over Beats headphones on online hi fi forums
Just compare their specs to any normal audio brand headphone in the same price range and usually Beats loose..

You might want to have a better look in this thread aswell as theres a fair bit of information in regards to amps and dacs.

GLHF

btw we need a Monitors thread :p
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 02:55:11
June 17 2012 02:55 GMT
#3525
On June 17 2012 08:52 DERPDERP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 08:27 Agarvaen wrote:
Does sound quality of headphones degrade in time or in other words how long would a pair of mid range cans (300$) last, assuming they would be used 6h / day ?


As far as I know they sound only gets better, at least when comparing new and used headphones.. Sorta like running in a new car :D

Yeah, my understanding is that you have to "burn-in" your headphones which takes something like 40-50 hours? Though at some point I suppose the headphones will die, but I'm not sure about their true life span (not counting catastrophic damage ;; ).
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GarethGore
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom59 Posts
June 17 2012 10:39 GMT
#3526
Lol there should be a option for both owning gaming headphones + mid range branded headphones seperately too. I have 3 pairs of skullriders, two over ear ones including a pair of red lowriders and one in ear headphones. But i also own a pair of turtle beach x11s for gaming
starstern
Profile Joined June 2012
5 Posts
June 17 2012 17:57 GMT
#3527
the dt880 is the cream of the crop to many ,but needs amps ,and been told ,amps source mattares whether warmer or colder sound quality ,i narrowed it down to the two top high end amps headroomamps and fiio e17 ,just waiting to hear someone who actually experienced both to tell what difference had expirienced ?
kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
June 18 2012 11:08 GMT
#3528
On June 18 2012 02:57 starstern wrote:
the dt880 is the cream of the crop to many ,but needs amps ,and been told ,amps source mattares whether warmer or colder sound quality ,i narrowed it down to the two top high end amps headroomamps and fiio e17 ,just waiting to hear someone who actually experienced both to tell what difference had expirienced ?



The FiiO E17 cannot drive the DT880. Well, it depends on the impedance of the version that you pick. The 600 Ohm version has been established to have the best sound. You would need a desktop amplifier to get the best sound. Most amplifiers below 1000 USD will not be very transparent and add hints of coloration but I doubt you're looking for that sort of fidelity.

I recommend the E7 and E9 combo. The E9i also can function as a iPod dock. Remember the 1/8th rule. Always make sure the output impedance of the headphone amplifier is at the LEAST 1/8th the impedance of the headphone.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 18 2012 17:21 GMT
#3529
Hm...

When you carefully level-match two different amplifiers** to the same volume and don't let people know which of the two they're listening to, the differences start disappearing. Translation: a lot of it is just in peoples' heads, because they expect to hear a certain something. There's a lot of money to be made by convincing people they need something better or different. For many reasons, I would be very careful in reading any kind of amp / DAC / whatever audio review.

**with low enough noise floor, low enough output impedance for the headphones, flat enough frequency response when running the headphones, low enough distortion when running the headphones, enough power for the headphones, etc.—for many expensive headphones, even some amps under $100 probably qualify. The requirements for different headphones would be different, and for many, the 1/8th (1/10th? 1/4th?) impedance rule probably isn't even important. Granted, for some headphones, many may legitimately prefer using an amp that doesn't satisfy those requirements.

E7/E9 can be docked together, but it's technically (electrically) somewhat inferior to E10 with E9. For a lot of headphones, you can just cut out the E9 too. If you don't listen kind of loud on quietly-recorded music, you can probably just get away with using E10 with DT880 250 ohms version. Those kinds of solid-state electronics tend to sound just fine until right before the clipping point, so don't be scared of running the volume knob high. E17 can be used as a portable amp and has some EQ controls, but for desktop use I'm not sure if it is actually better (probably not worse would be my guess).
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
June 18 2012 17:27 GMT
#3530
ChiUniFi 6 meet impressions thread from last weekend. Check it out. Amazing stuff I got a chance to listen to.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/614720/chiunifi-6-meet-impressions-thread

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BleaK_
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway593 Posts
June 18 2012 17:31 GMT
#3531
On June 17 2012 11:17 QuoC wrote:
headphone noob here.
looking for a headset that has really nice bass but can still maintain clean sound (meaning I don't want my headphones rattling with bass and unable to hear the lyrics to a song). I listen to trance, rap/hip-hop. Budget is $350.. was going to go with Beats Pro by Dre, but I thought I'd give this a chance. Thread looks promising.

Thanks so much guys, any advice/recommendations would be greatly appreciated!


Get the Denon 2000 and a dac/amp (like fiio e10) and you are set for a long long time.
fatfail
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States386 Posts
June 18 2012 17:43 GMT
#3532
What do you guys do when the cable housing peels at the jack? It stills works fine,but the wires are exposed and it looks pretty scary. Heat shrink?
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starstern
Profile Joined June 2012
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 20:03:18
June 18 2012 19:35 GMT
#3533
starstern
Profile Joined June 2012
5 Posts
June 18 2012 20:10 GMT
#3534
[QUOTE]On June 18 2012 20:08 kineSiS- wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 18 2012 02:57 starstern wrote:
the dt880 is the cream of the crop to many ,but needs amps ,and been told ,amps source mattares whether warmer or colder sound quality ,i narrowed it down to the two top high end amps headroomamps and fiio e17 ,just waiting to hear someone who actually experienced both to tell what difference had expirienced ?[/QUOTE]


The FiiO E17 cannot drive the DT880. Well, it depends on the impedance of the version that you pick. The 600 Ohm version has been established to have the best sound. You would need a desktop amplifier to get the best sound. Most amplifiers below 1000 USD will not be very transparent and add hints of coloration but I doubt you're looking for that sort of fidelity.

am getting the 250ohms version
VirtuallyJesse
Profile Joined February 2011
United States398 Posts
June 18 2012 21:06 GMT
#3535
Anyone bought refurbished headphones before? Been eyeing this, HD 598 for $180 after shipping. They are listed as an official retailer so it's covered under warrenty but I dunno, I've never spent this much on headphones before so it kinda makes me nervous. Worth the price (risk?)
kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
June 19 2012 09:03 GMT
#3536
On June 19 2012 02:27 slytown wrote:
ChiUniFi 6 meet impressions thread from last weekend. Check it out. Amazing stuff I got a chance to listen to.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/614720/chiunifi-6-meet-impressions-thread






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Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
June 20 2012 03:22 GMT
#3537
I know this is fairly off-topic for an audiophile headphone thread, but i'm fairly certain some of you might have some recommendations that would be quite handy. I'm looking for some in-ear headphones I can use in the gym, preferably under 20$ that I can order off amazon that I would be better off using rather than just buying some 10$ skull candies at the local best buy. What do you guys use for outdoors / (not many fucks given) situations?
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20078 Posts
June 20 2012 03:27 GMT
#3538
I use sennheiser cx200 or cx300 (dont remember which) for the gym. got em for like 15$ shipped. Pretty durable and solid sound for something you don't need to worry too much about.
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Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 04:09:14
June 20 2012 04:07 GMT
#3539
On June 20 2012 12:27 decafchicken wrote:
I use sennheiser cx200 or cx300 (dont remember which) for the gym. got em for like 15$ shipped. Pretty durable and solid sound for something you don't need to worry too much about.


Thank you, i see it's probably the cx200 which I think the lowest price is around 19$ which isn't too shabby. Definitely considering those as part of the purchase.

For a main set of IEM's at just under 100$ i'm looking at either RE0 or brainwavz m3...and I have a hard time deciding between the two now. I like all kinds of music and I do enjoy some house music from time to time. From what i've read the RE0 are pretty bass-light, so I might be better suited off with something more well rounded. Any insight?

edit: I do value sturdiness and durability since I tend to break headphones quite fast...
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fatfail
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States386 Posts
June 20 2012 05:09 GMT
#3540
On June 20 2012 12:27 decafchicken wrote:
I use sennheiser cx200 or cx300 (dont remember which) for the gym. got em for like 15$ shipped. Pretty durable and solid sound for something you don't need to worry too much about.


Hey I've been using cx200's for 3 years now. I bought them for 25. Despite the fact the jack looks like it is in terrible condition, the sennheiser stickers have fallen off, and the entire thing looks disgusting and horrible, the sound remains good and it functions well. I've been considered upgrading to cx300.
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