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Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
June 06 2012 08:42 GMT
#3461
On June 06 2012 05:00 JSH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 03:44 Waterflow wrote:
Anyone got tips on a good pair of in-ear's for Starcraft 2 and other games?

Ofcourse it's gotta be quality but not too expensive.

Price range?
Any particular sound signiture?

I'd recommend Vsonic Gr07 :>


Around $65-$80
Bloody
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 09:11:24
June 06 2012 09:09 GMT
#3462
I'm wondering if it's worth paying 500$ to upgrade my Sennheiser HD 595 headphones to HD 650 ones. If there is someone who has tested both HD 595 and HD 650 and could tell me how big the difference in sound quality is, would be nice.
Imbattable
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany85 Posts
June 06 2012 09:52 GMT
#3463
On June 06 2012 18:09 Bloody wrote:
I'm wondering if it's worth paying 500$ to upgrade my Sennheiser HD 595 headphones to HD 650 ones. If there is someone who has tested both HD 595 and HD 650 and could tell me how big the difference in sound quality is, would be nice.


I think the only way to see if it is worth it for YOU would be to go into a hi-fi store and listen to them. Bring a CD of your preferred music and take some time to listen to a few songs on both 595 and 650, then decide.
Aphasie
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway474 Posts
June 06 2012 10:27 GMT
#3464
On June 06 2012 17:42 Waterflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 05:00 JSH wrote:
On June 06 2012 03:44 Waterflow wrote:
Anyone got tips on a good pair of in-ear's for Starcraft 2 and other games?

Ofcourse it's gotta be quality but not too expensive.

Price range?
Any particular sound signiture?

I'd recommend Vsonic Gr07 :>


Around $65-$80


Im no expert but for $90 u can get some shure 215's, which i think is a good buy. They probably cost more in sweden tho, and maybe you have to pay taxes too.
http://www.amazon.com/Shure-SE215-K-Sound-Monitor-Black/dp/B004PNZFZ8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338977991&sr=8-1

I think the pricerange you have is a bit iffy tho. I think it kinda falls inbetween the "use and throw away" category and "invest in good sound" ($130++) category.
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
June 06 2012 12:15 GMT
#3465
On June 06 2012 19:27 Aphasie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 17:42 Waterflow wrote:
On June 06 2012 05:00 JSH wrote:
On June 06 2012 03:44 Waterflow wrote:
Anyone got tips on a good pair of in-ear's for Starcraft 2 and other games?

Ofcourse it's gotta be quality but not too expensive.

Price range?
Any particular sound signiture?

I'd recommend Vsonic Gr07 :>


Around $65-$80


Im no expert but for $90 u can get some shure 215's, which i think is a good buy. They probably cost more in sweden tho, and maybe you have to pay taxes too.
http://www.amazon.com/Shure-SE215-K-Sound-Monitor-Black/dp/B004PNZFZ8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338977991&sr=8-1

I think the pricerange you have is a bit iffy tho. I think it kinda falls inbetween the "use and throw away" category and "invest in good sound" ($130++) category.


Im sure they are good but they are near 1000kr. I don't feel like paying too much for a pair of in-ear's tbh.
Aphasie
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway474 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 12:47:24
June 06 2012 12:37 GMT
#3466
Well if you're not going to buy online and dont want to pay too much i would recommend Sennheiser CX300. I think they should be around that price. They fit well (in my small ears atleast), have decent sound and a two year unlimited warranty. So if you keep the receipt you have decent sound for ~2 years. I used went through a few pairs (i think i used that model for 5 years or so) and was happy untill i felt the urge for something better. I liked them. I think some models have bass-amplification - dont get those.
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 16:47:55
June 06 2012 16:47 GMT
#3467
On June 06 2012 21:37 Aphasie wrote:
Well if you're not going to buy online and dont want to pay too much i would recommend Sennheiser CX300. I think they should be around that price. They fit well (in my small ears atleast), have decent sound and a two year unlimited warranty. So if you keep the receipt you have decent sound for ~2 years. I used went through a few pairs (i think i used that model for 5 years or so) and was happy untill i felt the urge for something better. I liked them. I think some models have bass-amplification - dont get those.


mmm yeah they might be something. There's also CX400 G4ME i've seen. Don't know how good they are though.

Gonna use them for playing/listening to music and also while being outside. Im not a cheap bastard so maybe i'll invest in a couple of better ones even if i first said if wouldn't pay much. Wanna have good sound if im outside so.

I'll consider maybe buying some of better quality.

Thx for your help btw.
OneBaseKing
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Afghanistan412 Posts
June 07 2012 00:21 GMT
#3468
On June 06 2012 16:49 kineSiS- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 14:38 OneBaseKing wrote:
yo i don't understand why everyone's hating on bose, i got qc3 and it's good. i gotta question, can i buy a headphone amp for my qc3?


First off. Don't misunderstand the purpose of amplifiers. I'm sure that Myrmidon has more knowledge than me on this topic, and I wont presume to know more. He definitely has a wealth of knowledge accrued through research or some method of experience.

The Bose QC3 are overpriced. Their sound quality is bad for their price, which is why they are called overpriced. Bose is known for great active noise cancellation. The inverse sound waves (or whatever the technical term is) that cancels out the outside noise interferes with the music reproduction of the headphone, which is bad for fidelity.

In my opinion, the best amplifiers should be transparent, meaning it should have no significant impact on sound quality albeit providing the power necessary to fuel the headphones. The QC3 do not need an amplifier because a portable DAP or any source should be fine. And for the marginal difference it might make, it's not worth it.

@Milkis

This may be off topic, but when I saw this website. Northwesternrejects.com

Edit: What the heck? Apparently even uchicagorejects.com has been taken down. :[

Anyways go Wild Cats rofl.


Thanks lot :D
Agarvaen
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland16 Posts
June 07 2012 11:02 GMT
#3469
Since I'm looking to upgrade my PC sound is also an important part of it.
Atm I have SB audigy and Sennheiser PC 360
I mostly listen to classical music and rock.

I will be upgrading to Xonar essense in terms of soundcard. From headphones I expect good sound quality, isolation is not so important as I will be using it mostly at home but comfort is a must for long hours of use.

Which headphones around 200 Euros would you recommend to go with it?
(Based on reading the thread I'm leaning towards Sennheiser hd598, although I could get something more expensive if i go for cheaper version of Xonar)
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
June 07 2012 11:17 GMT
#3470
On June 06 2012 16:49 kineSiS- wrote:
@Milkis

This may be off topic, but when I saw this website. Northwesternrejects.com

Edit: What the heck? Apparently even uchicagorejects.com has been taken down. :[

Anyways go Wild Cats rofl.


Hahaha. It doesn't even matter since I think Caltech/MIT did it first anyway. It was viral a year or so ago so the domain just expired since that joke is kind of passe now.

Anyway, more impressions after 20+ hours of listening and swapping back and forth with m50s:

m50s are actually a *really* fantastic pair of headphones. My HE500 + Amp is of course far better in terms of fidelity but m50s really does a good job delivering the sound. It misses a few details here and there, but at the same time, it does a pretty damn good job with most of the songs I've listened to.

The closed sound stage of M50s does kind of bother me for some songs, but at the same time, I think having too much of a soundstage really makes some songs weird. Maybe this is more of me not completely used to it.

Also I really want to try a new amp now... is there anything around ~200 that'll drive HE500s?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 19:08:03
June 07 2012 19:02 GMT
#3471
IMHO the open and wider-sounding headphones tend to sound too wide on many recordings. Maybe you're hearing that? I guess it's just less noticeable on headphones where everything sounds like it's inside your head, but this is one of the legitimate weaknesses of using headphones to listen to sounds mastered with the intent of being played back on speakers. With speakers, some sound from the left speaker goes to the right ear and vice versa—the amount is less, and it depends on the frequency and your head/ear shape, and there's a time delay, so there's a lot going on. You don't get any of that L/R mixing together, with headphones on.

A few rare recordings are mastered for binaural (headphone) playback, and a lot of music may be mastered to kind of sound okay on both. But if you want to take matters into your own hands, there are hardware crossfeed circuits and lots of free software options to try, if you want. I like this foobar plugin:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?s=0cb1876f4870f4be7e5b8e97450ad7da&showtopic=90764&st=0

You can also look at this, which also adds reverb and some other things:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/555263/foobar2000-dolby-headphone-config-comment-discuss

You might not like any of that at all, or maybe you use it already?


As for a sub-$200 amp, the Objective2 is popular these days. It can be bought here and a couple other places:
http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=O2Full

At least with that you know what you're getting since the circuit is open-sourced, and there is plenty of documentation on the performance and design, if you can wade through the walls of text and figures:
http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/07/o2-headphone-amp.html#measurements
http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/08/o2-details.html#circuitdescription

If you're passable with a soldering iron, you can put it together yourself for some savings.

edit: I wouldn't be surprised if there were some issue with the NuForce Icon HDP running the HE-500, but I wouldn't assume that getting something else would really be a notable improvement. It also depends on how loud you're playing the headphones.
kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
June 08 2012 09:14 GMT
#3472
On June 08 2012 04:02 Myrmidon wrote:
IMHO the open and wider-sounding headphones tend to sound too wide on many recordings. Maybe you're hearing that? I guess it's just less noticeable on headphones where everything sounds like it's inside your head, but this is one of the legitimate weaknesses of using headphones to listen to sounds mastered with the intent of being played back on speakers. With speakers, some sound from the left speaker goes to the right ear and vice versa—the amount is less, and it depends on the frequency and your head/ear shape, and there's a time delay, so there's a lot going on. You don't get any of that L/R mixing together, with headphones on.

A few rare recordings are mastered for binaural (headphone) playback, and a lot of music may be mastered to kind of sound okay on both. But if you want to take matters into your own hands, there are hardware crossfeed circuits and lots of free software options to try, if you want. I like this foobar plugin:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?s=0cb1876f4870f4be7e5b8e97450ad7da&showtopic=90764&st=0

You can also look at this, which also adds reverb and some other things:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/555263/foobar2000-dolby-headphone-config-comment-discuss

You might not like any of that at all, or maybe you use it already?


As for a sub-$200 amp, the Objective2 is popular these days. It can be bought here and a couple other places:
http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=O2Full

At least with that you know what you're getting since the circuit is open-sourced, and there is plenty of documentation on the performance and design, if you can wade through the walls of text and figures:
http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/07/o2-headphone-amp.html#measurements
http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/08/o2-details.html#circuitdescription

If you're passable with a soldering iron, you can put it together yourself for some savings.

edit: I wouldn't be surprised if there were some issue with the NuForce Icon HDP running the HE-500, but I wouldn't assume that getting something else would really be a notable improvement. It also depends on how loud you're playing the headphones.


I quite agree. Personally I might have purchased the Schiit, yes it's the Schiit, Lyr if I were going to purchase a pair of Orthodynamic headphones. Low impedance, but power hungry devils.

Team Liquid is lucky to have a helper educated in audio-related subjects to help out those interested in the topic.

^.^ Myrmidon.
Seph02
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands221 Posts
June 08 2012 09:30 GMT
#3473
Last "black friday" I bought the Steelseries Siberia V2 quite cheap.

For gaming they are quite nice, however for music I am looking for something in terms of more quality.

Any recommendations for the price of around 100 - 150 euro ?
Starcraft is for life
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
June 08 2012 20:10 GMT
#3474
So I have the option of purchasing two iems at cost because of my they are the Klipsch s4 for 40$ and the Bose IE2 60$. I am currentlyusing Meelectronic m6-bk iems either of the two I mentioned a good buy and worth picking up over the meelectronics I have now? I use them for gaming and
kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
June 09 2012 05:13 GMT
#3475
On June 09 2012 05:10 Esoterikk wrote:
So I have the option of purchasing two iems at cost because of my they are the Klipsch s4 for 40$ and the Bose IE2 60$. I am currentlyusing Meelectronic m6-bk iems either of the two I mentioned a good buy and worth picking up over the meelectronics I have now? I use them for gaming and


If you're going to upgrade, purchase the GR06 by VSonic.
Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 06:18:01
June 09 2012 06:13 GMT
#3476
So I got my Fiio E10 in the mail a couple of days ago, and I've been waiting a bit to tell everyone hear what I think about it. Before I get ahead of myself, I have a pair of ATH-AD700s which I used to be running through the onboard audio. So when I got the e10, I was expecting the primary difference to be in the D/A conversion. It turned out (I think) that the amp is much more important. You see, the AD700s have virtually no bass. I'm not much of a basshead, but it was getting really annoying. Finally, I decided that I'd try to EQ my way out of it. Without the E10, this was a no-go. I could get the levels high enough to be decent, but I'd get crazy distortion (hard to describe, the volume would vary wildly depending on the bass at the point of the song, the volume at that point, the position of Venus with respect to the Earth and the Sun, etc. etc. etc.). When I got the e10 though, I gained the ability to modify the EQ however I like. The addition of bass to these cans really makes them great. I'm rebounding a bit right now, trading some detail for a lot of bass. And its working! As an amp, it definitely has plenty of power to drive these cans in any way possible. And the D/A... IDK, its hard to judge now that I can have realistic bass, and couldn't before.

Edit: As a trombone player, I listen to a lot of New Orleans jazz because, well, I'm biased I'm not sure how tuba pedal tones compare to dubstep basswise, but from my listening a simple graphic EQ plus the bass boost option on the e10 are plenty to get much better sound.
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nohbrows
Profile Joined February 2011
United States653 Posts
June 09 2012 06:59 GMT
#3477
So I am currently looking around for a headphone and after some research and sniffing around on various websites, my head was swimming from information that I rarely understood and was often quite daunting and scary. so I was wondering if the good people of TL could help.

I read through the thread, and I saw that Audio-Technica seems to be recommended quite a bit, but was wondering if my needs and wants justified buying an Audio technica head set. And

Anyways, this is my personal preferences:
  • I'm not an audiophile of any sort, but I do like to have quality of sound.
  • I need something portable and lightweight. Or at least portable enough where if I'm sitting alone at the library or lounging around in the coffeeshop, I can whip them out of storage relatively easily and listen. And where I can walk around with them while listening (it's unsafe, I know, but I like to do it.) And looking at a lot of the over the ear headphones, they seem rather, unwieldy.
  • My main device for listening is either going to be a notebook computer, iPod, or a phone (HTC Droid Incredible, might turn into an iPhone down the road if I upgrade). I read that some headphones require amps to go with them, and although I'd prefer not to carry around an amp with me (no matter how small), I'd be fine with one if I have to, as long as I can fit it in my budget.
  • It has to be over-the-ear. On-ears or In-ears are a no go because, well, my ears react really bad to them (like, infections).
  • I listen to a wide range of music, from Classical to Electronic, so i guess a versatile sound?
  • And my budget in total, is around $150 max, give or take $20
  • I have a relatively small head. Like, I can take any headphone out of the box or try on any at a Bestbuy or something, and I never have to adjust the band bigger than like, one click, from the starting position, so comfort in terms of size really isn't a problem (because I see a lot of people complain about headphones being too small or too tight).


Sorry if my post seems repetitive or my question has already been asked. Just I've lurked this thread before, and you guys seem like knowledgable people, so I came here to ask my question. ^-^

So what would be a good headphone for me?

Oh, and thank you, oh headphone enthusiasts of TL, for steering me away from buying a "gaming headset." I read through the thread and was persuaded not to get a siberia V2.
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Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 13:48:37
June 09 2012 10:35 GMT
#3478
I was lucky enough to lay my hands on these babies. Perfect mic and sick bass + crisp HD sound.
It's called Deltaco HL-33 in case anyone wanna buy a similar one.
Note: This is the most price worthy gaming headset on the market, mine costed 5 € in store.
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ThePurist
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada686 Posts
June 09 2012 10:59 GMT
#3479
On June 06 2012 18:09 Bloody wrote:
I'm wondering if it's worth paying 500$ to upgrade my Sennheiser HD 595 headphones to HD 650 ones. If there is someone who has tested both HD 595 and HD 650 and could tell me how big the difference in sound quality is, would be nice.


That's a lot of money they go for like $300 on a good deal here. The 650s are discontinued or they are planning to phase them out. Huge fanbase for the HD650s they are good headphones but I question if they are worth a $500 upgrade, maybe listen to them first properly and then make a decision. It's a lot of money :3
Nefariously
Profile Joined December 2010
277 Posts
June 09 2012 13:38 GMT
#3480
Might be a little off topic, but is this a good soundcard? http://www.amazon.com/Creative-SB0880-Express-Blaster-Titanium/dp/B001E25KDK

Also, will I need an amplifier along with these for my 598's?
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