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seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
January 05 2012 10:56 GMT
#2601
Anyone recognize the cans? I think some kind of AKGs.

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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20166 Posts
January 06 2012 21:42 GMT
#2602
Pads on my m50s are starting to crack, any recommendations for replacements?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
January 06 2012 22:29 GMT
#2603
On January 04 2012 02:41 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2012 22:19 bluQ wrote:
On January 03 2012 22:08 Denda Reloaded wrote:
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bought these yesterday. all i can say: they are amazing, sound quality is really awesome and it has a really good bass.

129€ beats by dre monster "Lady GaGa Heartbeats"

So the next piece of design out of Dre's Moneymaking-Factory. About this masterpiece of marketing you can't even get any information concerning frequency range, quite funny for that amount of money.


Frequency range or frequency response? Of course I'd rather see more published information, but it's uncommon for anybody to publish frequency response data. Frequency range (e.g.16Hz - 26 kHz) is quite obviously useless without any information about relative amplitudes at all those frequencies in whatever it is they want to quote for the range, and that's generally what most list.



You are right of course, but they should publish frequency response. I'm with NwAvGuy on this. Not sure if you're familiar with his blog:

Again, if a manufacture can’t provide detailed specs, think twice. They probably either never even properly tested their product (as with the NuForce uDAC-2), or if they did, they’re embarrassed to share the results.

Source: http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/gain-and-headphone-ampsdacs.html

Although there he is referring to Amps and DACs. In my opinion there is a lot of confirmation bias with high-end audio, in particular at the very high-end (like with cables... holy shit).
The NuForce uDAC-2 reference refers to this: http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/nuforce-udac-2-drama.html
Ap_Furio
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom12 Posts
January 06 2012 22:37 GMT
#2604
Hey guys, I'm looking a decent mid level headphones, what do you think of the Nocs NS400, considering the price I'm really tempted, reviews are pretty good too http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nocs-NS400-Titanium-Earphones-Remote/dp/B004BN3AI6
"If it bleeds, we can kill it"
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 06 2012 22:51 GMT
#2605
On January 07 2012 07:37 Ap_Furio wrote:
Hey guys, I'm looking a decent mid level headphones, what do you think of the Nocs NS400, considering the price I'm really tempted, reviews are pretty good too http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nocs-NS400-Titanium-Earphones-Remote/dp/B004BN3AI6

You need something with the iPod controls and mic? There's still plenty of alternatives with those criteria.


On January 07 2012 06:42 decafchicken wrote:
Pads on my m50s are starting to crack, any recommendations for replacements?

I know there's plenty of M50 owners here, so since I have no good idea, I'm bumping this for you. There should be a lot of aftermarket alternatives, which may fit differently and perhaps change the sound somewhat, but what looks like the original pads are readily available:
http://www.amazon.com/Technica-Replacement-ATH-M50-ATH-M50S-Headphones/dp/B006NH8768
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ATHM50EarPad
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
January 07 2012 01:19 GMT
#2606
On January 07 2012 06:42 decafchicken wrote:
Pads on my m50s are starting to crack, any recommendations for replacements?

I posted this before, but it's pretty relevant here.
On December 14 2011 19:12 seiferoth10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:19 decafchicken wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:44 seiferoth10 wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:31 Juddas wrote:
LoL too fast for my edit! thanks for clearing that up, and reccomending the 80s, saves a lot of hassle. Now what is the scoop on those audio technicas?

General consensus is that they have a similar sound signature to the DT770s (their mids are a little more present, their bass is just a little rolled off on the end), they isolate just a little worse than the DTs. They're a little bit easier to drive. They're actually quite similar headphones.

The big differences I can see:
M50s are smaller = more portability compared to the big ass DTs.
M50s have pleather ear pads = more uncomfortable in the long term versus the velours on the DTs.


Speaking of the m50 pads...mine are starting to crack. Any suggestions on good replacements?

Look at this thread:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/414574/velour-felt-pads-for-ath-m50/60#post_6005157

Apparently the Beyer DT250 velours fit on the M50. There's pictures and everything of how to install it. Now, I don't know if it would change the sound signature or anything, but my guess would be that because the M50s already sound quite similar to the DT770s and the DT250 velours use the same material as the DT770 velours, it shouldn't have that big of an impact. I'm sure that thread will have people who did the change and can comment on the difference.

I'd totally pursue velours because I'm now spoiled and cannot wear pleather, otherwise get more stock pads (bleh).
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20166 Posts
January 07 2012 02:26 GMT
#2607
On January 07 2012 10:19 seiferoth10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 06:42 decafchicken wrote:
Pads on my m50s are starting to crack, any recommendations for replacements?

I posted this before, but it's pretty relevant here.
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:12 seiferoth10 wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:19 decafchicken wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:44 seiferoth10 wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:31 Juddas wrote:
LoL too fast for my edit! thanks for clearing that up, and reccomending the 80s, saves a lot of hassle. Now what is the scoop on those audio technicas?

General consensus is that they have a similar sound signature to the DT770s (their mids are a little more present, their bass is just a little rolled off on the end), they isolate just a little worse than the DTs. They're a little bit easier to drive. They're actually quite similar headphones.

The big differences I can see:
M50s are smaller = more portability compared to the big ass DTs.
M50s have pleather ear pads = more uncomfortable in the long term versus the velours on the DTs.


Speaking of the m50 pads...mine are starting to crack. Any suggestions on good replacements?

Look at this thread:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/414574/velour-felt-pads-for-ath-m50/60#post_6005157

Apparently the Beyer DT250 velours fit on the M50. There's pictures and everything of how to install it. Now, I don't know if it would change the sound signature or anything, but my guess would be that because the M50s already sound quite similar to the DT770s and the DT250 velours use the same material as the DT770 velours, it shouldn't have that big of an impact. I'm sure that thread will have people who did the change and can comment on the difference.

I'd totally pursue velours because I'm now spoiled and cannot wear pleather, otherwise get more stock pads (bleh).


gratzi
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
braisedsteak
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada4 Posts
January 07 2012 05:55 GMT
#2608
On January 05 2012 19:56 seiferoth10 wrote:
Anyone recognize the cans? I think some kind of AKGs.

Pretty big pictures:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]

And just in case anyone cares:
Girl 1: T-ara's Hyomin
Girl 2: T-ara's Eunjung


Found em :D

Denon DN-HP1000 in silver
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
January 07 2012 06:09 GMT
#2609
Anyone knows about digital coaxial cables? The price range is all over the place and I seem to understand it makes little to no difference (which makes sense since it's digital). Still I don't want to halfass it. I'd like something cheap but good. If it looks decent, that's better too.

Thanks.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
HuggyBear
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia377 Posts
January 07 2012 06:27 GMT
#2610
I usually just get a decent shielded one. The cheaper the better unless you plan on running it somewhere with a lot of interference
"Sleeping with SeLeCT is Standard. Once you've slept with Day9 everything else is just ..." - CatZ
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
January 07 2012 06:31 GMT
#2611
I found this one for cheap, from my understanding 75ohm is important. Seems decent though. Any opinion?

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/COAXIAL-S-PDIF-DIGITAL-AUDIO-RCA-CABLE-SPDIF-75OHM-DVD-/380174524234?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item58842adf4a#ht_1989wt_1168
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 07 2012 07:04 GMT
#2612
Well the S/PDIF standard is for 75 ohms characteristic impedance, so that's what you want.

I'd just get it from monoprice. Get the shortest one that's long enough:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10236
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
January 07 2012 07:08 GMT
#2613
Alrighty. Thanks.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 12:34:12
January 07 2012 12:32 GMT
#2614
Cables are a bit of a myth. Cheap 20 cent per metre cables have never shown to have an audible difference in ABX testing (where the listener can switch between A=Cheap cable, B=Expensive cable and X=Either A or B, and the listener has to determine whether X is A or B). As long as the connections are ok it's fine, but yet audiophiles will spend thousand and thousands per metre for a cable, and then hear a difference as a result of their bias.


Cool video:



+ Show Spoiler +

I think the only time cables really make a difference is when it's like a microphone or a guitar cable, as the signal from a microphone or pickup is very low, so any interference makes a big difference. They are also often in situations where there could be a lot of interference, which is why microphones used "balanced" cables.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
January 07 2012 12:39 GMT
#2615
On January 07 2012 11:26 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 10:19 seiferoth10 wrote:
On January 07 2012 06:42 decafchicken wrote:
Pads on my m50s are starting to crack, any recommendations for replacements?

I posted this before, but it's pretty relevant here.
On December 14 2011 19:12 seiferoth10 wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:19 decafchicken wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:44 seiferoth10 wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:31 Juddas wrote:
LoL too fast for my edit! thanks for clearing that up, and reccomending the 80s, saves a lot of hassle. Now what is the scoop on those audio technicas?

General consensus is that they have a similar sound signature to the DT770s (their mids are a little more present, their bass is just a little rolled off on the end), they isolate just a little worse than the DTs. They're a little bit easier to drive. They're actually quite similar headphones.

The big differences I can see:
M50s are smaller = more portability compared to the big ass DTs.
M50s have pleather ear pads = more uncomfortable in the long term versus the velours on the DTs.


Speaking of the m50 pads...mine are starting to crack. Any suggestions on good replacements?

Look at this thread:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/414574/velour-felt-pads-for-ath-m50/60#post_6005157

Apparently the Beyer DT250 velours fit on the M50. There's pictures and everything of how to install it. Now, I don't know if it would change the sound signature or anything, but my guess would be that because the M50s already sound quite similar to the DT770s and the DT250 velours use the same material as the DT770 velours, it shouldn't have that big of an impact. I'm sure that thread will have people who did the change and can comment on the difference.

I'd totally pursue velours because I'm now spoiled and cannot wear pleather, otherwise get more stock pads (bleh).


gratzi

seems like the velour pads significantly changes the sound that most arent too happy with. The Shure 440 pads seem to fit as well as the 840, but those are a bit loose. My pads are starting to feel quite dry and I've only had them for 5 months =(
© Current year.
LaaLaaLeevi
Profile Joined June 2011
200 Posts
January 07 2012 12:55 GMT
#2616
I used Audio Techinicas ath-m50 which are great especially when considering the price. But nowadays I dont use headphones at all because of tinnitus and I would not recommend using headphones if possible. One of the biggest reasons for me getting it was the long hours of headphones...
HuggyBear
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia377 Posts
January 07 2012 13:05 GMT
#2617
On January 07 2012 21:55 LaaLaaLeevi wrote:
I used Audio Techinicas ath-m50 which are great especially when considering the price. But nowadays I dont use headphones at all because of tinnitus and I would not recommend using headphones if possible. One of the biggest reasons for me getting it was the long hours of headphones...


No, I'd bet it was the long hours of excessive volume. I don't know why people keep listening at excessive volumes when you can actually train your brain to listen to non-hearing damaging levels.
"Sleeping with SeLeCT is Standard. Once you've slept with Day9 everything else is just ..." - CatZ
LaaLaaLeevi
Profile Joined June 2011
200 Posts
January 07 2012 13:13 GMT
#2618
I never listened it loud. Should have taken much more breaks though.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
January 07 2012 13:59 GMT
#2619
On January 07 2012 22:13 LaaLaaLeevi wrote:
I never listened it loud. Should have taken much more breaks though.


Just because a headphone is closer to your ear does not make it more damaging, unless you have it too loud. It makes no difference whether the speaker is next to your ear or 200m away, it's the volume that reaches your ear that counts.
LaaLaaLeevi
Profile Joined June 2011
200 Posts
January 07 2012 16:31 GMT
#2620
On January 07 2012 22:59 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 22:13 LaaLaaLeevi wrote:
I never listened it loud. Should have taken much more breaks though.


Just because a headphone is closer to your ear does not make it more damaging, unless you have it too loud. It makes no difference whether the speaker is next to your ear or 200m away, it's the volume that reaches your ear that counts.


That is not true.

"In loudspeaker reproduction, sounds must travel several feet before reaching the listener's ears. By the time they arrive, a portion of the high frequencies have been absorbed by the air. Low frequencies are not absorbed as much, but they are more felt through bone conduction than actually heard. With headphones, the ears hear all frequencies without any attenuation, because the transducers are literally pressed against them. Thus, when listening to headphones at the same effective volume level as loudspeakers, headphones may still transmit louder high frequencies that are more likely to cause hearing damage."

http://gilmore2.chem.northwestern.edu/articles/hearing_art.htm
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