On July 15 2004 21:49 Liquid`Spy wrote: Saw Equilibrium last night, omg what a fucked up movie. The plot is like a weak rip-off from 1984 (the book) and the fighting scenes, LOL. 1 guy with no body armor and 2 hand guns shooting like 30 (bodyarmored) people with automatic machine guns by moving in funny ballet poses :// the whole idea of the movie is totally unrealistic too.
I saw it a looooooooooooong ass time ago and it left a good impression
On July 15 2004 21:49 Liquid`Spy wrote: Saw Equilibrium last night, omg what a fucked up movie. The plot is like a weak rip-off from 1984 (the book) and the fighting scenes, LOL. 1 guy with no body armor and 2 hand guns shooting like 30 (bodyarmored) people with automatic machine guns by moving in funny ballet poses :// the whole idea of the movie is totally unrealistic too.
it's not about the fighting scenes, the thoughts behind everything are pretty impressive. desocialization of society, accepting war as a part of humanity, emotion conquerring peace, etc.
it's not about the action at all, but these days sometimes you have to make a movie so that you'll actually get some views. this is one of the ways. same goes for the matrix where they used a very popular concept to draw attention to themselves with matrix 1, then using this attention to project their actual message in matrix 2 and 3 (whether you liked them or not - you watched them)
On July 15 2004 21:49 Liquid`Spy wrote: Saw Equilibrium last night, omg what a fucked up movie. The plot is like a weak rip-off from 1984 (the book) and the fighting scenes, LOL. 1 guy with no body armor and 2 hand guns shooting like 30 (bodyarmored) people with automatic machine guns by moving in funny ballet poses :// the whole idea of the movie is totally unrealistic too.
it's not about the fighting scenes, the thoughts behind everything are pretty impressive. desocialization of society, accepting war as a part of humanity, emotion conquerring peace, etc.
it's not about the action at all, but these days sometimes you have to make a movie so that you'll actually get some views. this is one of the ways. same goes for the matrix where they used a very popular concept to draw attention to themselves with matrix 1, then using this attention to project their actual message in matrix 2 and 3 (whether you liked them or not - you watched them)
yes sometimes people will wonder why i liked a movie that was just poorly produced and directed with bad acting like The One and the final fantasy movie. i really liked both of those movies but the majority of the people i have spoken with about them really thought they were boring. i liked them because of the abstract concepts. what i really liked about final fantasy was the theorie on death that was presented.
i think the confliction here is definitely based on how much value the actual concept, idea, and message of a movie hold for you compared to other aspects of the film ( such as production, special effects, atmosphere, directing, acting ).
what were the actual messages in matrix 2 and 3? i figured the first flick was really just to get people thinking about whether truth is more important than their everyday lives and how the possibility of a controled simulation like that could easily be true. i could almost say that i dont think its too far off from what may be the truth, minus all the computers and earth and machines and people that were involved in it. the 2nd and 3rd one seemed to me to be more of a developement of the story.
On July 15 2004 17:35 Million wrote: 1. The Matrix 2. Spiderman 2 3. Kill Bill Vol.1 4. Kill Bill Vol.2 5. Internal Affairs (Hong Kong Movie staring Andy Lau) 6. Enter the Dragon (Bruce Lee) 7. My sassy girlfriend (such a cute movie, and a big plus because it's Korean) 8. Battle Royal 9. The Ring 10. Amile (This French movies is also so cute and touching)
O M G!!!
I forgot to list KIll Bill 1&2... How could I??? Those movies were just absolutely ownage. :O
On July 16 2004 01:18 uNbRokeN wrote: yes sometimes people will wonder why i liked a movie that was just poorly produced and directed with bad acting like The One and the final fantasy movie. i really liked both of those movies but the majority of the people i have spoken with about them really thought they were boring. i liked them because of the abstract concepts. what i really liked about final fantasy was the theorie on death that was presented.
i think the confliction here is definitely based on how much value the actual concept, idea, and message of a movie hold for you compared to other aspects of the film ( such as production, special effects, atmosphere, directing, acting ).
what were the actual messages in matrix 2 and 3? i figured the first flick was really just to get people thinking about whether truth is more important than their everyday lives and how the possibility of a controled simulation like that could easily be true. i could almost say that i dont think its too far off from what may be the truth, minus all the computers and earth and machines and people that were involved in it. the 2nd and 3rd one seemed to me to be more of a developement of the story.
it's too much to explain. if you wanna know there's plenty to find about it on the internet. but it's ALOT of work to get through. goes from jesus to world after world after world to mythic gods (and their names), double and tripple meanings worked into the names and characters, and much more. kinda cool if you like it but some people just wanna relax and lay back, watch a movie and not think, so yea then matrix 2 and 3 weren't so nice.
I'm not the biggest expert on the Matrix trilogy (cause it takes so much effort), but I've read enough to know there's alot more to it than most people think
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1.Green Mile - the most impressive movie I ever seen 2.Gladiator - the best historical movie 3.Matrix - no comments needed 4.The Gold rush - Chaplin 5.The Killer - John Woo's best 6.Un homme et une femme( a man and a woman) - best love story 7.Gone by the wind - gosu novel , gosu movie 8.The Birds - best horror 9.The Shawshank Redemption - the best happy end ever 10.Leon - just impressive
On July 16 2004 01:37 Beyonder wrote: I downloaded the Boondock Saints and will report in later
:O
im positive you'll like it, especially if ur irish... cept i donno if they have computers in ireland... so i donno how probable it is that your irish ^^
edit: except of course if your irish and raised in another country, like i think is the case in the movie accually.
On July 16 2004 01:37 Beyonder wrote: I downloaded the Boondock Saints and will report in later
:O
im positive you'll like it, especially if ur irish... cept i donno if they have computers in ireland... so i donno how probable it is that your irish ^^
edit: except of course if your irish in raised in another country, like i think is the case in the movie accually.
lol, I'm Dutch!
I also downloaded Phone Booth... I love this thread!
On July 16 2004 01:37 Beyonder wrote: I downloaded the Boondock Saints and will report in later
:O
im positive you'll like it, especially if ur irish... cept i donno if they have computers in ireland... so i donno how probable it is that your irish ^^
edit: except of course if your irish in raised in another country, like i think is the case in the movie accually.
lol, I'm Dutch!
I also downloaded Phone Booth... I love this thread!
On July 15 2004 21:49 Liquid`Spy wrote: Saw Equilibrium last night, omg what a ------ up movie. The plot is like a weak rip-off from 1984 (the book) and the fighting scenes, LOL. 1 guy with no body armor and 2 hand guns shooting like 30 (bodyarmored) people with automatic machine guns by moving in funny ballet poses :// the whole idea of the movie is totally unrealistic too.
it's not about the fighting scenes, the thoughts behind everything are pretty impressive. desocialization of society, accepting war as a part of humanity, emotion conquerring peace, etc.
it's not about the action at all, but these days sometimes you have to make a movie so that you'll actually get some views. this is one of the ways. same goes for the matrix where they used a very popular concept to draw attention to themselves with matrix 1, then using this attention to project their actual message in matrix 2 and 3 (whether you liked them or not - you watched them)
Better to steal something good then make something bad. I mean take the Matrix. If you have seen Ghost in the Shell well doesn't it make you think, "hmmm they've stolen some ideas there?". And if you read a lot of SF most aspects of both movies would ring a bell cause there are a lot of SF writers who write about post apocalyptic societies, AI and virtual excistence. Anyways it doesn't make the movie worse i think. I would like to see more movie makers steal cool concepts out of books. Maybe there would be less of those shit movies out there.
(homer walks the green mile) <b>- gimme yer hands, boss.</b> (homer smiles) <b>i'll kill you! i killed them other people!!! i'm go'a kill you too!!!</b> (john begins to strangle homer but homer is drawn away by the guards!) (they walk on..)
<b>you want some cornbread, mr. jingles? he he!</b> (john giggles) <b>well you can foget it - bcos i'm g'nna kill you!!!</b> (john is in rage!)
On July 16 2004 01:37 Beyonder wrote: I downloaded the Boondock Saints and will report in later
:O
im positive you'll like it, especially if ur irish... cept i donno if they have computers in ireland... so i donno how probable it is that your irish ^^
edit: except of course if your irish in raised in another country, like i think is the case in the movie accually.
lol, I'm Dutch!
I also downloaded Phone Booth... I love this thread!
EPT
Those movies were just absolutely ownage. :O
