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On March 28 2011 16:19 Lycaeus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 15:54 teammatto wrote:On March 28 2011 15:40 Tabbris wrote:Another photo of Afghan children. According to one soldier, members of 3rd Platoon also talked about a scenario in which they “would throw candy out in front and in the rear of the Stryker; the Stryker would then run the children over.” So fucking sick. These guys need the death sentence I don't think Soldiers who served our country in one way or another deserve the death sentence, this is all situational and too difficult in my opinion to determine what should be done =( If those are the soldier's that are keeping me safe, then I'd rather be dead. Evil like that deserve nothing but death.
I doubt that, but nice try.
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+ Show Spoiler +I dont get it how you can make a difference with who gets the death penalty and who doesnt. If you slaughter innocent people i dont see the difference between a random sicko in the street and a random sicko in a uniform.
Its just sad that stuff like that continues to happen. Allthough i think the US is getting more heat then other countries because they cannot regulate press like other political powers can.
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On March 28 2011 16:14 Kaal wrote:Show nested quote +That is correct, but still don't think they deserve to be put to death, send them to prison for life I am fine with that but more killing I don't think is the correct response. Also US military spends countless time and money making sure soldier's are trained to dehumanize the enemy so it makes their job "easier." Due to that alone I am not surprised for it to go this far. BY NO MEANS saying is correct, just saying I can see why it happen, or what appears to have happened. Uh, what? No, we don't. And that would have nothing to do with Afghani civilians anyway, they're civilians. Also, about the "sitting around the dinner table" shit, I'm going to call sensationalism on that. If someone heard that, that was not cool with murdering defenseless civilians, they could have been sent to NJP just for saying it. You don't try to dehumanize the targets for soldiers? That makes the army of the USA quite a unique one I have to say. At least a few soldiers where they can't abuse their homecoming for those weird propaganda videos.
Those guys are fucked up, killing an unarmed 15y old, even setting it up like a so it looks like he started, isn't that straight first degree murder? Together with trophy pictures etc., kinda sick, lets just hope that your goverment won't be able to cover it up again so they'll get away with 1-2y in prison. How about putting all of them into guantanamo, that would be nice
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On March 28 2011 16:45 Starfox wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 16:14 Kaal wrote:That is correct, but still don't think they deserve to be put to death, send them to prison for life I am fine with that but more killing I don't think is the correct response. Also US military spends countless time and money making sure soldier's are trained to dehumanize the enemy so it makes their job "easier." Due to that alone I am not surprised for it to go this far. BY NO MEANS saying is correct, just saying I can see why it happen, or what appears to have happened. Uh, what? No, we don't. And that would have nothing to do with Afghani civilians anyway, they're civilians. Also, about the "sitting around the dinner table" shit, I'm going to call sensationalism on that. If someone heard that, that was not cool with murdering defenseless civilians, they could have been sent to NJP just for saying it. You don't try to dehumanize the targets for soldiers? That makes the army of the USA quite a unique one I have to say. At least a few soldiers where they can't abuse their homecoming for those weird propaganda videos. Those guys are fucked up, killing an unarmed 15y old, even setting it up like a so it looks like he started, isn't that straight first degree murder? Together with trophy pictures etc., kinda sick, lets just hope that your goverment won't be able to cover it up again so they'll get away with 1-2y in prison. How about putting all of them into guantanamo, that would be nice
I didn't click the link, but all that was in the pictures?
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You don't try to dehumanize the targets for soldiers? That makes the army of the USA quite a unique one I have to say. At least a few soldiers where they can't abuse their homecoming for those weird propaganda videos.
Those guys are fucked up, killing an unarmed 15y old, even setting it up like a so it looks like he started, isn't that straight first degree murder? Together with trophy pictures etc., kinda sick, lets just hope that your goverment won't be able to cover it up again so they'll get away with 1-2y in prison. How about putting all of them into guantanamo, that would be nice
No, I never received any "dehumanization" training, unless you mean by calling people "targets" or whatever, I won't get into bad names we call our foes. Yes they were probably insane. They will not get away with 1-2 years in prison, they will probably get the death penalty.
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On March 28 2011 16:45 Starfox wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 16:14 Kaal wrote:That is correct, but still don't think they deserve to be put to death, send them to prison for life I am fine with that but more killing I don't think is the correct response. Also US military spends countless time and money making sure soldier's are trained to dehumanize the enemy so it makes their job "easier." Due to that alone I am not surprised for it to go this far. BY NO MEANS saying is correct, just saying I can see why it happen, or what appears to have happened. Uh, what? No, we don't. And that would have nothing to do with Afghani civilians anyway, they're civilians. Also, about the "sitting around the dinner table" shit, I'm going to call sensationalism on that. If someone heard that, that was not cool with murdering defenseless civilians, they could have been sent to NJP just for saying it. You don't try to dehumanize the targets for soldiers? That makes the army of the USA quite a unique one I have to say. At least a few soldiers where they can't abuse their homecoming for those weird propaganda videos. Those guys are fucked up, killing an unarmed 15y old, even setting it up like a so it looks like he started, isn't that straight first degree murder? Together with trophy pictures etc., kinda sick, lets just hope that your goverment won't be able to cover it up again so they'll get away with 1-2y in prison. How about putting all of them into guantanamo, that would be nice
Dehumanize is kind of a vague term. The only thing I remember that could be remotely linked to that term was when we had to watch videos of military members dying(i'm assuming so we could learn from there mistakes). You can fin most of the videos on you tube,just search al qaeda propaganda.
But these soldiers are fucked up, and they should get the death penalty
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Uggh this reminds me of my highschool friend (not really my friend anymore he's changed) told me of Iraq stories of soldiers killing innocents and that one sniped a boy's head while he was eating ice cream because they were bored or something. He's never been the same after going to Iraq the first time, and even worse after his second or third time back. Fucking war..
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Really hope all this was worth it !
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This makes me sick to my stomach, fucking bastards who did it need to be punished severely.
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You'd think that they would get their brains checked out before they're given weapons -_-'
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This seems like a case where the death penalty would be justified.
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On March 28 2011 18:10 Robinsa wrote: This seems like a case where the death penalty would be justified.
Yeah when I read the part about the guy burning his wife with a cigarette I agreed.
I'd never hit a women let alone burn them with a cigarette... what the fuck
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Death penalty is never justified because it neither punishes nor corrects the person. It is contradictory to what a punishment and/or a sentence is.
To end their life serves no purpose in the end.
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it's just human nature. a guy can only endure so much until he snaps.
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On March 28 2011 18:23 Torte de Lini wrote: Death penalty is never justified because it neither punishes nor corrects the person. It is contradictory to what a punishment and/or a sentence is.
To end their life serves no purpose in the end.
neither does incarceration without therapy. how does spending years of your life surrounded by criminals help you stop drug addiction?
death penalty serves as a deterrent for future crimes as well as saves honest, hardworking people from paying a lot of money to support a career criminal
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On March 28 2011 16:20 teammatto wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 16:19 Lycaeus wrote:On March 28 2011 15:54 teammatto wrote:On March 28 2011 15:40 Tabbris wrote:Another photo of Afghan children. According to one soldier, members of 3rd Platoon also talked about a scenario in which they “would throw candy out in front and in the rear of the Stryker; the Stryker would then run the children over.” So fucking sick. These guys need the death sentence I don't think Soldiers who served our country in one way or another deserve the death sentence, this is all situational and too difficult in my opinion to determine what should be done =( If those are the soldier's that are keeping me safe, then I'd rather be dead. Evil like that deserve nothing but death. I doubt that, but nice try.
I don't doubt it. I know I'd rather die than have a bunch of sick cunts kill kids in my name.
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On March 28 2011 18:23 Torte de Lini wrote: Death penalty is never justified because it neither punishes nor corrects the person. It is contradictory to what a punishment and/or a sentence is.
To end their life serves no purpose in the end.
Of course it punishes the person.
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I doubt this is the place for a discussion on the death penalty; it is guarenteed to get stupid, fast. Think about the consequences of your posts, don't make us go through that D:
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