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Bump. Article from Rolling Stone:
Among the men of Bravo Company, the notion of killing an Afghan civilian had been the subject of countless conversations, during lunchtime chats and late-night bull sessions. For weeks, they had weighed the ethics of bagging "savages" and debated the probability of getting caught. Some of them agonized over the idea; others were gung-ho from the start. But not long after the New Year, as winter descended on the arid plains of Kandahar Province, they agreed to stop talking and actually pull the trigger.
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The site also shows some of the censored material, WARNING NSFW, I REPEAT NSFW, VERY GRAPHIC
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dear god... why did i click on that.
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Love how the paper rages over pictures of dead bodies. "Even if they are of enemy combatants... IT'S BAD". No, it isn't, wtf. And I mean straight up pictures now, not pictures with people posing and shit or where bodies or parts have been arranged. In fact I am specifically outraged by their comments on the last of all pictures, lol sensationalist news. There's already a story there, don't try to make it into something more.
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So if I click that link, what can I expect to see? I've seen a lot of insane shit on the Internet, but depending on how bad these pictures are I won't click the link.
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The pictures are of dead bodies, some of which have been mutilated, some of which have been posed with and/or by US soldiers.
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On March 28 2011 15:30 KonohaFlash wrote:
So if I click that link, what can I expect to see? I've seen a lot of insane shit on the Internet, but depending on how bad these pictures are I won't click the link.
A dead boy, reportedly around 15. Soldiers messing with his body, one guy smiles in a picture as he holds up the dead boy's head. A severed heads, some severed limbs, a body cut in half.
It's graphicness is pretty much the same as you'd see if you frequented a certain infamous imageboard often. Not for the faint of heart.
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On March 28 2011 15:30 KonohaFlash wrote:
So if I click that link, what can I expect to see? I've seen a lot of insane shit on the Internet, but depending on how bad these pictures are I won't click the link.
Dead bodies + blood + mutilation, didn't go through all the pics though.
This kind of thing is so embarrassing and disappointing, we're wasting so much (money, lives, etc.) over there to just end up pissing off civilians even more. Pulling out (flat out) might even be better than the alternative of perpetuating this kind of thing.
Such a shameful situation 
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On March 28 2011 15:30 KonohaFlash wrote:
So if I click that link, what can I expect to see? I've seen a lot of insane shit on the Internet, but depending on how bad these pictures are I won't click the link.
Severed head. Legs without bodies. Dead corpse. A burnt corpse or what appeared to be burned. Its pretty bad
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Another photo of Afghan children. According to one soldier, members of 3rd Platoon also talked about a scenario in which they “would throw candy out in front and in the rear of the Stryker; the Stryker would then run the children over.”
So fucking sick. These guys need the death sentence
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Why don't they just execute these guys? They clearly deserve it. They are truly the lowest form of human being. And I can't say I'm surprised at the Army suppressing the incident. Disappointed, but not surprised.
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On March 28 2011 15:30 KonohaFlash wrote:
So if I click that link, what can I expect to see? I've seen a lot of insane shit on the Internet, but depending on how bad these pictures are I won't click the link.
There's a video too that shows soldiers shooting and killing two men on a motorcycle and then examining/searching the scene. But the pictures were more graphic imo.
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The military should have the strictest of punishments for this kind of behavior. These people are supposed to be professionals.
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War has many faces...this one is one of the most horrible to me.
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On March 28 2011 15:44 travis wrote:
The military should have the strictest of punishments for this kind of behavior. These people are supposed to be professionals.
The pyschos that pulled the trigger will probably spend the rest of their lives in Leavenworth. My main concern is what happens to the commanding officers that ignored and/or covered up the situation. The first death of was one too many, the subsequent ones are the fault of everyone involved, not just the triggermen.
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On March 28 2011 15:40 Tabbris wrote:Show nested quote +Another photo of Afghan children. According to one soldier, members of 3rd Platoon also talked about a scenario in which they “would throw candy out in front and in the rear of the Stryker; the Stryker would then run the children over.” So fucking sick. These guys need the death sentence
I don't think Soldiers who served our country in one way or another deserve the death sentence, this is all situational and too difficult in my opinion to determine what should be done =(
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On March 28 2011 15:44 travis wrote:
The military should have the strictest of punishments for this kind of behavior. These people are supposed to be professionals.
Basically, this. The military of civilized nations should rightly be held to a highly standard (as opposed to the deafening silence when fine Afghani gentlemen burn down a school for females and mutilate/kill those involved...)
PS Implying that all soldiers were the "bottom 10% of their class" is quite factually wrong -- I encourage you to look up the statistics yourselves.
PPS Comparing this to the rape of Nanking either conveys a serious ignorance of history or mathematical deficiency.
I don't think Soldiers who served our country in one way or another deserve the death sentence, this is all situational and too difficult in my opinion to determine what should be done =(
"served"?
I don't doubt that seeing the lovely Afghani culture at work (hint: look up their rape statistics) would unhinge a normal individual, but it by no means justifies what was done here...
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On March 28 2011 15:44 travis wrote:
The military should have the strictest of punishments for this kind of behavior. These people are supposed to be professionals.
We do. It's called capital punishment, and is enforcable under the UCMJ. Specifically, they're probably being charged with several counts of article 118, murder.
This is why they shouldn't send first deployers straight to iraq or afghanistan, it was alot easier for me to deal with other places and to see killing and death before then. I've been in the navy for awhile now, and I've been working with Seal teams 2, 3, and 5 for about 3 years, I've never seen anyone do anything that fucked up.
As far as your comment about being professionals, yes, we are professionals, and for the most part our job comes down to sanctioned murder. But ending another human being's life isn't exactly like slamming copies through a xerox machine, it fucks with your mind and there's no way around that unless you're insane.
These guys went nuts, and there wasn't a person there with experience in the job that knew how to identify that and stop them before they did something incomprehensibly out of line. I'm not trying to make excuses for them, please don't get that impression, I'm just saying I kind of understand, it's a mental state that alot of people go through and have to be bitch slapped out of.
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On March 28 2011 15:58 419 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 15:44 travis wrote:
The military should have the strictest of punishments for this kind of behavior. These people are supposed to be professionals. Basically, this. The military of civilized nations should rightly be held to a highly standard (as opposed to the deafening silence when fine Afghani gentlemen burn down a school for females and mutilate/kill those involved...) PS Implying that all soldiers were the "bottom 10% of their class" is quite factually wrong -- I encourage you to look up the statistics yourselves. PPS Comparing this to the rape of Nanking either conveys a serious ignorance of history or mathematical deficiency. Show nested quote +I don't think Soldiers who served our country in one way or another deserve the death sentence, this is all situational and too difficult in my opinion to determine what should be done =( "served"? I don't doubt that seeing the lovely Afghani culture at work would unhinge a normal individual, but it by no means justifies what was done here...
That is correct, but still don't think they deserve to be put to death, send them to prison for life I am fine with that but more killing I don't think is the correct response. Also US military spends countless time and money making sure soldier's are trained to dehumanize the enemy so it makes their job "easier." Due to that alone I am not surprised for it to go this far. BY NO MEANS saying is correct, just saying I can see why it happen, or what appears to have happened.
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That is correct, but still don't think they deserve to be put to death, send them to prison for life I am fine with that but more killing I don't think is the correct response. Also US military spends countless time and money making sure soldier's are trained to dehumanize the enemy so it makes their job "easier." Due to that alone I am not surprised for it to go this far. BY NO MEANS saying is correct, just saying I can see why it happen, or what appears to have happened.
Uh, what?
No, we don't. And that would have nothing to do with Afghani civilians anyway, they're civilians.
Also, about the "sitting around the dinner table" shit, I'm going to call sensationalism on that. If someone heard that, that was not cool with murdering defenseless civilians, they could have been sent to NJP just for saying it.
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On March 28 2011 15:54 teammatto wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 15:40 Tabbris wrote:Another photo of Afghan children. According to one soldier, members of 3rd Platoon also talked about a scenario in which they “would throw candy out in front and in the rear of the Stryker; the Stryker would then run the children over.” So fucking sick. These guys need the death sentence I don't think Soldiers who served our country in one way or another deserve the death sentence, this is all situational and too difficult in my opinion to determine what should be done =(
If those are the soldier's that are keeping me safe, then I'd rather be dead. Evil like that deserve nothing but death.
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