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WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
September 13 2010 12:03 GMT
#141
On September 13 2010 20:29 BlackJack wrote:
How did Switzerland get a 2 in "ease of access to small arms and light weapons"

and UK got a 2 as well


In Switzerland its very easy to gain access to a weapon. Just join the "Jungschützen" and you can have this for free:
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6179 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 12:10:19
September 13 2010 12:07 GMT
#142
edit: sorry i read wrong and thus responded incorrectly. Message removed.
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
September 13 2010 12:15 GMT
#143
Hell yeah, New Zealand #1 baby!

On the other hand, being the most peaceful country in the world does have its downside...

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snpnx
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany454 Posts
September 13 2010 18:10 GMT
#144
On September 13 2010 21:15 FuRong wrote:
Hell yeah, New Zealand #1 baby!

On the other hand, being the most peaceful country in the world does have its downside...


Haha, I had a good laugh. But nobody would hurt this nice land with so many sheep I think
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DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
September 13 2010 18:27 GMT
#145
well united states was 96 the previous year so at least we are improving
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TymerA
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands759 Posts
September 13 2010 18:30 GMT
#146
Russia: Chechnya, south ossetia

hmmmmm Chechnya is a state full of extremists so i guess there should be no problem with that, south ossetia itself wants to be part of russia and georgia mounted the offensive so it was self-defence...

oh wait fox news told me it was russia that started lololol
nice.
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
September 13 2010 18:52 GMT
#147
Ok...based on that criteria, the USA's number's would be artificially inflated because of how many people are jailed because of Marijuana, the "access to weapons" criteria is no indicator AT ALL of peace when you consider that the perceived criminality, police, level of violent crime and homicide's category's all demonstrate how those weapons are actually used, which would be a much more accurate representation of how "peaceful" a nation is. The notion of "disrespect for human rights" is arbitrary and non-quantifiable in any meaningful way, and should be removed as a criteria. Military capacity and sophistication is silly as well. Just because you CAN kick ass, doesn't necessarily mean you WILL, just look at Japan, pretty peaceful, then look at the US, we're at war all over the joint! Given you can have both extremes within ONE category, I'm not sure it's really useful.

Those are just the ones that jumped out at me as being bullshit.

Very interesting list, but like all lists of this sort, ultimately useless.
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teekesselchen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany886 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 19:37:38
September 13 2010 19:30 GMT
#148
On September 09 2010 05:19 Emon_ wrote:
Sweden is just as peaceful as the test suggests, 10/145. There is the random maniac every once in a while, otherwise you're free to wander the lands as you please.

We do export lots of weapons so other people can wage war. Wish this hypocrisy could stop.


It's pretty much the same for Germany (ranked 16).
Much worse than the actual threat to anyone is the hysteria made up by media. It's over 80 million people in this country so of course there are severe crimes beeing commited from time to time, but media stages many of them in a totally overdone way. Many people feel way less secure than they could.
Only threat I could accept is the existence of hopeless people with poor education threatening others from time to time. It actually holds a bit of probabily encountering such a situation in the late evening mostly.
It surprised me that we're ranked 5 in respect for human rights though. I know that it has a high value in germany but after the latest quarrel about preventive detention I thought we would roughly be top 10.

US beeing last in jailed people, lol. Surprises me that they're relatively well in "Ease of access to small firearms and light weapons (85), I expected them to be bottom end in that category as well.

I think the rating "imports of major conventional weapons" is totally meaningless, is that only to have Afghanistan beeing ranked well in anything?
If we assume "imports" not as "beeing bought" but "beeing brought into the country", Afghanistan would most likely have one of the worst ratings ever since there are lots of weapons beeing brought into the country by military of foreign nations, taliban and extremists.
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muccer
Profile Joined September 2010
125 Posts
September 13 2010 23:16 GMT
#149
I found it very interesting that the main belligerants of WW2 are doing so well, Japan and Germany. Much higher than the winners of the WW2.
muccer
Profile Joined September 2010
125 Posts
September 14 2010 00:44 GMT
#150
[QUOTE]On September 14 2010 04:30 teekesselchen wrote:

Surprises me that they're relatively well in "Ease of access to small firearms and light weapons (85), I expected them to be bottom end in that category as well.


I agree, wonder how that is?
muccer
Profile Joined September 2010
125 Posts
September 14 2010 06:13 GMT
#151
I wonder if this peace index correlates with the human development index etc. In other words, are those countries at the bottom always the same? poor, underdeveloped, failed states? would seem no given US is at 85 of this index.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
September 14 2010 06:25 GMT
#152
On September 14 2010 08:16 muccer wrote:
I found it very interesting that the main belligerants of WW2 are doing so well, Japan and Germany. Much higher than the winners of the WW2.

I don't. Their militaries were dismantled and they were basically helped by foreign countries to rebuild their economies.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
September 14 2010 06:26 GMT
#153
those peaceful countries that are surrounded by not-so-peaceful countries must be worried every day... mainly south american and african countries
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
September 14 2010 08:34 GMT
#154
On September 14 2010 08:16 muccer wrote:
I found it very interesting that the main belligerants of WW2 are doing so well, Japan and Germany. Much higher than the winners of the WW2.


Other nations picked up the tab for their rebuilding / defense for half a century.
hefty
Profile Joined January 2005
Denmark555 Posts
September 14 2010 09:49 GMT
#155
Denmark at 7th. Way to high for a country that waged war both in Iraq and Afghanistan. It may be "for the sake of bringing peace", but a country at war shouldn't be ranked that high.
Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
September 14 2010 09:58 GMT
#156
On September 14 2010 17:34 DannyJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2010 08:16 muccer wrote:
I found it very interesting that the main belligerants of WW2 are doing so well, Japan and Germany. Much higher than the winners of the WW2.


Other nations picked up the tab for their rebuilding / defense for half a century.


the reparations we had to pay were and still are alot higher than the aid we received and dont forgot all the patents the americans stole.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 11:06:12
September 14 2010 10:39 GMT
#157
On September 14 2010 18:58 Yuljan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2010 17:34 DannyJ wrote:
On September 14 2010 08:16 muccer wrote:
I found it very interesting that the main belligerants of WW2 are doing so well, Japan and Germany. Much higher than the winners of the WW2.


Other nations picked up the tab for their rebuilding / defense for half a century.


the reparations we had to pay were and still are alot higher than the aid we received and dont forgot all the patents the americans stole.


Well, you could argue that the Marshal plan was EXTREMELY pivotal in the reconstruction/stability of Germany and other nations, though you can't truly judge the full effect of it or how much Germany had to repay

More importantly, America's involvement in containing the soviet union was a steep bill / problem Germany wouldn't have liked to deal with as they rebuilt over the years.

And yeah, America definitely did steal alot of intellectual German property. But hey, that's part of the pleasant spoils of winning a war!
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
September 14 2010 11:18 GMT
#158
Heh, Thailand is at 124/149. It is actually a rather peaceful country despite the protests earlier this year.
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Achilles
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada385 Posts
September 14 2010 12:02 GMT
#159
"This has even less merit than the UNDR. Given those criteria (or lack of criteria), I'm glad the US isn't #1."

Sour grapes response if I've ever heard one
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Altair
Profile Joined August 2009
243 Posts
September 14 2010 12:38 GMT
#160
Why is Russia so red? Can someone explain it to me? -_-
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