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Hey, I'm by no means connected with the maker(s) of Zest, just wanted to give a shout for the best thing a web browser has to offer to your mind. If this thread breaks any rules delete it, but don't ban me please.
http://zestriddle.ovh.org/
It's NotPron kind of a riddle but with a really outstanding, morbid atmosphere. It will get you right at the beginning (still many get stuck on first 3 and never proceed :<). First read http://zestriddle.ovh.org/hints.htm, then if you have trouble (you WILL have trouble) go to the english official forum for hint threads. Riddles are meant to be hard, the base (72 of them) took me 3 years to finish (had like year long breaks though :p), but if you're really smart 1-3 months could be enough. Be careful, because if you get sucked in you won't be able to think about anything but the damn riddle all day (hah, a day...) long.
More general info: http://zestriddle.ovh.org/wai.htm (all the links are on the main site but I suppose it looks better if I post them ^^).
You can pm me for hints if you like.
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I'm at lvl 5 and losing patience... 
oh now I reached some other part of lvl 5
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Hmmm... how do you find source code without IE7. Level 2!
I just felt so proud to get through level 1 without cheats lol.
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I somehow managed to get from level two to level zero, im scared.
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level three (:
the levels load really slowly for me tho ):
level 5 now :D
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wait, its like notpron? im in.
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if I think I know the answer, how do I send in my answer? Or is that part of the riddle and I am very confused lol?
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I'm on level two and incredibly confused.
On September 06 2010 06:02 Beef Noodles wrote:
if I think I know the answer, how do I send in my answer? Or is that part of the riddle and I am very confused lol?
It tells you on the hints page.
First page looks like this http://zestriddle.ovh.org/zest_riddle/one.htm
The "one" part in that link is the answer. So if you think the answer is sausages change it to sausages like this:
http://zestriddle.ovh.org/zest_riddle/sausages.htm
If it takes you to the next riddle instead of an error page you did it right 
That's what I think anyway.. but honestly I have no idea how I got the answer from the picture and the text it was more of a guess really and now that I'm on the second one (I think I am anyway) I am super confused.
I think someone has spoiled the second one already in this thread but I don't see how you got that answer either :o
Maybe we can have a spoilered discussion or start a new thread to discuss each level or just do that openly here?
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Is anyone else at the second part of lvl 5? iso hints
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What is this, viral marketing for a Nine Inch Nails release? Some of the adresses are very alike to album / song names, and the flip image has exact lyrics.
Pretty cool in any case though.
Edit; Well, close to exact lyrics, in any case.
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On September 06 2010 06:21 hifriend wrote:
Is anyone else at the second part of lvl 5? iso hints
+ Show Spoiler +Check the source. + Show Spoiler +Something about the blue being, white being not, which points towards the blue line fields on the image contains parts of the puzzle, while white does not. Considering the mirror.htm says mirrors lie, I've tried using both blue as guide to find words and white as guide to find words, but i find nothing that makes sense, straight-forward or reversed.
Does the green G in the reflection hold signifcance? I've tried using the words in that area straight foward and reverse, and only as parts of white / blue, to no effect.
I havent found the solution yet, but this seems pretty significant.
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On September 06 2010 05:49 besiger wrote:
I somehow managed to get from level two to level zero, im scared.
me too, lol try devil or satan
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Im too deep in this........deeper should I say 
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There was this one similar website that had a french word in it. Like overture or something. If anyone can find it, can they link it in this thread, please?
I got really far into that site.
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Hwangjae.. how did you get deeper D:
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haha level 3 :D and a big lol :D any small hints someone ?
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On September 06 2010 06:59 ThE.SparkZ wrote:
Hwangjae.. how did you get deeper D:
The answer is in what you just said.
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On September 06 2010 07:04 PhuxPro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2010 06:59 ThE.SparkZ wrote:
Hwangjae.. how did you get deeper D: The answer is in what you just said.
I figured out that much, but what I want to know is how you came up with that answer O_O
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I got the first answer immediatly but apparently didnt include the htm at the end and spent friggin hour to think the first puzzle trough over and over again.
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It's deeper because they zoom in on the picture before it, but i was talking about the third riddle. I'm looking at the source code and found some intersting things.. but i still can't figure it out D:
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On September 06 2010 07:15 ThE.SparkZ wrote:
It's deeper because they zoom in on the picture before it, but i was talking about the third riddle. I'm looking at the source code and found some intersting things.. but i still can't figure it out D:
Yeah same here, the source code text is just as confusing as the text on the page...
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On September 06 2010 06:53 PhuxPro wrote:
There was this one similar website that had a french word in it. Like overture or something. If anyone can find it, can they link it in this thread, please?
I got really far into that site.
ouverture-facile or something
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i got to first question and i was extremely bored... hmmm =/ cant figure 2nd question out.
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On September 06 2010 06:27 plated.rawr wrote:What is this, viral marketing for a Nine Inch Nails release? Some of the adresses are very alike to album / song names, and the flip image has exact lyrics. Pretty cool in any case though. Edit; Well, close to exact lyrics, in any case. Edit edit: Show nested quote +On September 06 2010 06:21 hifriend wrote:
Is anyone else at the second part of lvl 5? iso hints + Show Spoiler +Check the source. + Show Spoiler +Something about the blue being, white being not, which points towards the blue line fields on the image contains parts of the puzzle, while white does not. Considering the mirror.htm says mirrors lie, I've tried using both blue as guide to find words and white as guide to find words, but i find nothing that makes sense, straight-forward or reversed.
Does the green G in the reflection hold signifcance? I've tried using the words in that area straight foward and reverse, and only as parts of white / blue, to no effect. I havent found the solution yet, but this seems pretty significant.
+ Show Spoiler +I'm on the same track I drew lines like columns where the white/blue is in the picture and also figured the green letter has significance, though it doesn't seem to fit with the 'real' image below. And yeah, haven't really been able to figure anything out.
I think since the first picture was named reflection backwards, and the answer turned out to by rorrim i.e. written backwards, it would make sense if whatever word we're searching for is in the format of "rimror - mirror" which is the word of the second picture.
maybe you figured it out by now? had to do some studying.
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got to number 4 now the source confused me for a while too
+ Show Spoiler +in the source find oz.jpg that should help you if you can then work out the little puzzle + Show Spoiler +read the letters in the right order and you it says just type 'nothing' which is your answer
a bit stuck now, not sure if i need to edit the image or something
nvm made it to 5 now
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+ Show Spoiler +If you edit the image abit it says " OMG! Is there a face screaming?"
And then if you flip it around some more it says "I can still hear you even so far away..."
I still haven't figured out what to type though.
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On September 06 2010 06 plated.rawr wrote:
What is this, viral marketing for a Nine Inch Nails release? Some of the adresses are very alike to album / song names, and the flip image has exact lyrics.
The author is a NIN fan, you will see other bands references as well. I think level 5 is the first brick wall you meet, another one at 12 and then it gets only worse . For levels discussion (spoiler free) go to official forums, years of modded posts there (actually if you are polish there is also a polish official forum, imo more subtle hints over there).
Grats for those who have discovered lvl 0, there are many other bonus levels (negative gogo). Reading your discussion I got reminded how good it was, think I will get back and try to find Exodus (72-101 riddles) after a year long break.
Other interesting one is http://inwardhellix.net/ (made by a zest fan, considered to be a little harder). I also liked "frvade" riddle but it isn't up anymore :<.
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On September 06 2010 07:33 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2010 06:27 plated.rawr wrote:What is this, viral marketing for a Nine Inch Nails release? Some of the adresses are very alike to album / song names, and the flip image has exact lyrics. Pretty cool in any case though. Edit; Well, close to exact lyrics, in any case. Edit edit: On September 06 2010 06:21 hifriend wrote:
Is anyone else at the second part of lvl 5? iso hints + Show Spoiler +Check the source. + Show Spoiler +Something about the blue being, white being not, which points towards the blue line fields on the image contains parts of the puzzle, while white does not. Considering the mirror.htm says mirrors lie, I've tried using both blue as guide to find words and white as guide to find words, but i find nothing that makes sense, straight-forward or reversed.
Does the green G in the reflection hold signifcance? I've tried using the words in that area straight foward and reverse, and only as parts of white / blue, to no effect. I havent found the solution yet, but this seems pretty significant. + Show Spoiler +I'm on the same track I drew lines like columns where the white/blue is in the picture and also figured the green letter has significance, though it doesn't seem to fit with the 'real' image below. And yeah, haven't really been able to figure anything out.
I think since the first picture was named reflection backwards, and the answer turned out to by rorrim i.e. written backwards, it would make sense if whatever word we're searching for is in the format of "rimror - mirror" which is the word of the second picture. maybe you figured it out by now? had to do some studying.
Took a break to play a bit with RPGMaker, but I'll check it out later on, based on one of the points you made.
On September 06 2010 08:02 EerieNewb wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2010 06 plated.rawr wrote:
What is this, viral marketing for a Nine Inch Nails release? Some of the adresses are very alike to album / song names, and the flip image has exact lyrics.
The author is a NIN fan, you will see other bands references as well. I think level 5 is the first brick wall you meet, another one at 12 and then it gets only worse . For levels discussion (spoiler free) go to official forums, years of modded posts there (actually if you are polish there is also a polish official forum, imo more subtle hints over there). Grats for those who have discovered lvl 0, there are many other bonus levels (negative gogo). Reading your discussion I got reminded how good it was, think I will get back and try to find Exodus (72-101 riddles) after a year long break. Other interesting one is http://inwardhellix.net/ (made by a zest fan, considered to be a little harder). I also liked "frvade" riddle but it isn't up anymore :<.
You sound pretty familiar with the makers, are you by any chance one of them? If you are, nice job with the thing. Good composition between audio and graphics to create atmosphere.
The general text fonts and excessive use of (...) does annoy me at times though. =P
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On September 06 2010 07:33 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2010 06:27 plated.rawr wrote:What is this, viral marketing for a Nine Inch Nails release? Some of the adresses are very alike to album / song names, and the flip image has exact lyrics. Pretty cool in any case though. Edit; Well, close to exact lyrics, in any case. Edit edit: On September 06 2010 06:21 hifriend wrote:
Is anyone else at the second part of lvl 5? iso hints + Show Spoiler +Check the source. + Show Spoiler +Something about the blue being, white being not, which points towards the blue line fields on the image contains parts of the puzzle, while white does not. Considering the mirror.htm says mirrors lie, I've tried using both blue as guide to find words and white as guide to find words, but i find nothing that makes sense, straight-forward or reversed.
Does the green G in the reflection hold signifcance? I've tried using the words in that area straight foward and reverse, and only as parts of white / blue, to no effect. I havent found the solution yet, but this seems pretty significant. + Show Spoiler +I'm on the same track I drew lines like columns where the white/blue is in the picture and also figured the green letter has significance, though it doesn't seem to fit with the 'real' image below. And yeah, haven't really been able to figure anything out.
I think since the first picture was named reflection backwards, and the answer turned out to by rorrim i.e. written backwards, it would make sense if whatever word we're searching for is in the format of "rimror - mirror" which is the word of the second picture. maybe you figured it out by now? had to do some studying.
the green letter has nothing to do with the answer
flip letters that are under the blue columns, and leave the letters under the white columns normal
won't use the letters from all the words
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I just finished 5 and I have the biggest headache right now. This is going to kill me...and I really need to play some ladder today
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Grrrr. 5 > I've put it in paint and flipped it this way and that and highlighted it to make it 'blue', drew lines that divide out the blue columns of it...
=.=
Edit: overthought it too hard.
Guessed 6 correctly but want to know how I get to that conclusion.
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stuck on level 8 now, this one's tough
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I'm going a little crazy here over 5b. Can someone tell me if I'm even on the right track?
(possible spoiler)
+ Show Spoiler +
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You're on the right track... but delete the picture before you give it away to everyone.
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On September 06 2010 11:08 LooseMoose wrote:
You're on the right track... but delete the picture before you give it away to everyone.
done I'm going to bed this is too annoying :/
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I went through this game before cheating...it's absolute waste of time. So many of the answers are completely obscure, trivial, and near-impossible to guess through the game.
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I never liked zest. Many of the later riddles are too obscure and vague to figure out without too much help or time. Dracula's riddle is in my opinion the best online riddle out there.
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Where do you type the answer to the riddle?
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stuck on 12 and starting to get tempted to cheat lol
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i don't even know where i would goto cheat if i wanted to...
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I must be completely retarded, because I can't figure out 5a. I've tried everything
+ Show Spoiler +i see words in red on the mirror, but they're too low resolution for me to make out
EDIT: RAWR got it
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the words in the mirror are unimportant, i'm stuck on 6
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bleh, guessed 5b solely due to the fact that someone said he was a NIN fan
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someone please just tell me the answer to 5b...
this is just ridiculous
there is like 5000 clues all over mirror, rorrim, helpme and i dont know which ones are real and which ones are irrelevant..
5b is terribly made
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On September 06 2010 15:41 mcneebs wrote:
bleh, guessed 5b solely due to the fact that someone said he was a NIN fan
wow i just looked at a list of NIN songs and took one of them
there is NO way anyone would EVER guess that
it is completely irrelevant to every single detail in #5...
terribly made riddle
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it's no where near irrelevant, it's been spoilered already in the thread. if you think that's obscure, i don't think you're going to like where this site is headed. i got pretty into notpr0n back in the day, and I've gotta say that shit starts to get crazy obscure later on.
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i'm playing this game at the office and i don't have sound, i just need someone to confirm that any sound loops are irrelevant to the questions, correct?
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On September 06 2010 08:57 Blyadischa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2010 07:33 hifriend wrote:On September 06 2010 06:27 plated.rawr wrote:What is this, viral marketing for a Nine Inch Nails release? Some of the adresses are very alike to album / song names, and the flip image has exact lyrics. Pretty cool in any case though. Edit; Well, close to exact lyrics, in any case. Edit edit: On September 06 2010 06:21 hifriend wrote:
Is anyone else at the second part of lvl 5? iso hints + Show Spoiler +Check the source. + Show Spoiler +Something about the blue being, white being not, which points towards the blue line fields on the image contains parts of the puzzle, while white does not. Considering the mirror.htm says mirrors lie, I've tried using both blue as guide to find words and white as guide to find words, but i find nothing that makes sense, straight-forward or reversed.
Does the green G in the reflection hold signifcance? I've tried using the words in that area straight foward and reverse, and only as parts of white / blue, to no effect. I havent found the solution yet, but this seems pretty significant. + Show Spoiler +I'm on the same track I drew lines like columns where the white/blue is in the picture and also figured the green letter has significance, though it doesn't seem to fit with the 'real' image below. And yeah, haven't really been able to figure anything out.
I think since the first picture was named reflection backwards, and the answer turned out to by rorrim i.e. written backwards, it would make sense if whatever word we're searching for is in the format of "rimror - mirror" which is the word of the second picture. maybe you figured it out by now? had to do some studying. the green letter has nothing to do with the answer flip letters that are under the blue columns, and leave the letters under the white columns normal won't use the letters from all the words
tip for 5b
if you still cant get it the first word made using this method is + Show Spoiler +
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Haha, type in "zero" for something funny
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Hoooooly shit the feeling of satisfaction I got when I just figured out what the code in the source code means for 6(6) was fucking awesome
edit: WOW THATS FUCKING CRUEL 6(66) THE SOMETHING MORE LOL
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i feel ya on that one orb, i'm on 6(66) now, but i thought 6(6) was pretty easy.
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Now stuck at level 8.
there's so much stuff going on in these pictures you find 'hints' everywhere and most of them probably
aren't relevant.
hints?
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On September 06 2010 20:24 hifriend wrote:Now stuck at level 8. there's so much stuff going on in these pictures you find 'hints' everywhere and most of them probably aren't relevant. hints?
Pay attention to the arrow and think about the positioning of the man and the theme of the picture.
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workin on the code in 6b... gonna mess w/ it till i figure it out! 
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On September 07 2010 00:22 LooseMoose wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2010 20:24 hifriend wrote:Now stuck at level 8. there's so much stuff going on in these pictures you find 'hints' everywhere and most of them probably aren't relevant. hints? Pay attention to the arrow and think about the positioning of the man and the theme of the picture.
Stuck in the same place and still confused.
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Does this code in 6b have anything to do with the answer? Kinda clueless on this one.
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if onyl one could mute the stupid music
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It keeps asking me to install missing plug-ins. What does this site require?
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+ Show Spoiler +Yeah, i've been this far I guess. I translated the symbols into numbers using a qwerty keyboard layout. I don't get the second hint. :/
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On September 07 2010 04:05 Slunk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Yeah, i've been this far I guess. I translated the symbols into numbers using a qwerty keyboard layout. I don't get the second hint. :/
+ Show Spoiler +I have a terrible feeling the maker didn't consider the fact that swedish and american keyboards don't have those symbols in the same place...
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On September 07 2010 04:05 Slunk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Yeah, i've been this far I guess. I translated the symbols into numbers using a qwerty keyboard layout. I don't get the second hint. :/
+ Show Spoiler [biggest hint] +
Translating to numbers will get you nowhere.
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It says paint isn't enough for graphic stuff and that you'll need photoshop? Count me out.
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Alright brothers I need help with #3.
edit: nevermind
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I think I know the answer to number 2. I typed in what I think it is, and it brings me to another riddle, but I don't think it's right.
Is the answer to number 2 the word + Show Spoiler +? and how am I supposed to know that?
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On September 07 2010 06:55 FJ wrote:I think I know the answer to number 2. I typed in what I think it is, and it brings me to another riddle, but I don't think it's right. Is the answer to number 2 the word + Show Spoiler +? and how am I supposed to know that?
+ Show Spoiler +No. That's Easter egg I think. The answer has been repeatedly stated in this thread so you might wish to check it out if you are truly stuck. And if you don't figure it out even after that... :D
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On September 07 2010 05:16 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2010 04:05 Slunk wrote:On September 07 2010 03:38 infinitestory wrote:On September 07 2010 03:24 Slunk wrote:
Does this code in 6b have anything to do with the answer? Kinda clueless on this one. + Show Spoiler [pretty big hint] + + Show Spoiler +Yeah, i've been this far I guess. I translated the symbols into numbers using a qwerty keyboard layout. I don't get the second hint. :/ + Show Spoiler [biggest hint] +
Translating to numbers will get you nowhere.
Oh this one is so stupid. -.-
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I don't understand what I'm supposed to be doing with 6(66).
Also, are the music that play in this available for download somewhere?
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On September 07 2010 07:19 Deathstar wrote:
I don't understand what I'm supposed to be doing with 6(66).
Also, are the music that play in this available for download somewhere?
you can get the link from the source
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I'm stuck on the 12th one... Damn some of these are just obscure... :S
+ Show Spoiler + 6 and 6(6) were quite obvious though. :D
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On September 07 2010 07:22 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2010 07:19 Deathstar wrote:
I don't understand what I'm supposed to be doing with 6(66).
Also, are the music that play in this available for download somewhere? you can get the link from the source
Thanks.
Also, just got 6(66). I went fffff after I realized it haha.
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On September 07 2010 07:28 SageFantasma wrote:I'm stuck on the 12th one... Damn some of these are just obscure... :S + Show Spoiler + 6 and 6(6) were quite obvious though. :D
+ Show Spoiler +For number twelve you have to look at her story. Think about what a story is written down in (type of file, think simple) and think about who it's talking about (herstory) Maybe too big of a hint.
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OK so I figured out6(6)... But only by backtracking from the answer, which I googled. And just as I thought, having a swedish keyboard was the problem. Or rather, the maker of this riddle assuming the whole world uses the same keyboard layout was the problem. I want to push him down an endless staircase.
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There was a riddle website I had years ago when there was no need for paint/photoshop
It was just a line or a picture and you could answer the riddle like that. Sometimes the page source had information.
Anyone know that one? IMO it was really good
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On September 06 2010 07:10 Gerbeeros wrote:
I got the first answer immediatly but apparently didnt include the htm at the end and spent friggin hour to think the first puzzle trough over and over again.
This >_>
Thanks for posting this. Too bad I have work early in the morning tomorrow. Will have this bookmarked though
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Wow one of the greatest feelings in the world is to solve one of these riddles quickly. I just got 11 in around 5 minutes. Up until then it's taken foreverrrrrrrrrrr for most of them. I'm going crazy.
edit: now I might just quit at 12...it looks ridiculous
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I hate riddles, im so terribly bad at them
I looked at like the first 10 answeres and i have no idea how anyone could figgure them out, and i thought i had good problem solving skills :\
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ew when I saw #12 I just instantly closed the browser
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Any help with 8 please? I'm stucked so badly is frustating...
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5b answer was absolutely retarded. The pattern has almost nothing to do with the information given in the riddle.
I love how these "riddles" have absolutely nothing to do with intelligence. I really wish there was one of these that was actually based on logical deduction and not finding out what they don't tell you. The "clues" are always just abstract interpretations of information the author has withheld from you, and if you get the correct answer all you've proven is you've guessed the authors interpretation of the withheld information correctly. It's not like there is a complex pattern to figure out, the pattern itself is extremely simple. The problem is that he doesn't give you nearly enough information to formulate the correct pattern without guessing between multiple patterns, all of which could follow from the information given.
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I hate you OP. I got the first one and am already stuck on the second XD
And got the second. Stuck on the third...
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On September 08 2010 04:06 throttled wrote:
5b answer was absolutely retarded. The pattern has almost nothing to do with the information given in the riddle.
I love how these "riddles" have absolutely nothing to do with intelligence. I really wish there was one of these that was actually based on logical deduction and not finding out what they don't tell you. The "clues" are always just abstract interpretations of information the author has withheld from you, and if you get the correct answer all you've proven is you've guessed the authors interpretation of the withheld information correctly. It's not like there is a complex pattern to figure out, the pattern itself is extremely simple. The problem is that he doesn't give you nearly enough information to formulate the correct pattern without guessing between multiple patterns, all of which could follow from the information given.
They don't really deserve to be called riddles imo. They're more like rather silly puzzles where you try to guess what the maker was high on when he thought up the question. Also I don't get wading through all the gunk and source code to find an mp3 that references a song title that references a poem containing the original question. Oh and don't forget the perennial favorite, increasing the fucking contrast/lighting using an image editor.
I'm not against puzzles where getting there is half the fun, but when it's all you have to offer, it just shows lack of originality and creativity. If your riddle is puzzling and entertaining and mystifying why do you want people to dig for it? Just post it in plain text and let it speak for itself.
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Okay....I got 5b, but can someone explain to my the thought process for getting that? I used hints from the thread.
+ Show Spoiler +And I understand the blue/white reflect some and not others bit from 5b, I just do not get how the answer is + Show Spoiler +
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On September 08 2010 06:21 Bair wrote:Okay....I got 5b, but can someone explain to my the thought process for getting that? I used hints from the thread. + Show Spoiler +And I understand the blue/white reflect some and not others bit from 5b, I just do not get how the answer is + Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +White is read straight forward, blue is read backwards. You only read the topmost letters, and voila.
Yea, that's not what I figured out from the hints given, but I did figure it out eventually by using my NIN knowledge and trying to reverse / straight parts of the text over time.
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On September 08 2010 06:21 Bair wrote:Okay....I got 5b, but can someone explain to my the thought process for getting that? I used hints from the thread. + Show Spoiler +And I understand the blue/white reflect some and not others bit from 5b, I just do not get how the answer is + Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +If you were to write down all the words and then use the "blue is mirror white is not" or w/e then you would flip all the letters under blue and then have all the letters "fall down" to the bottom. The green S at the top shows you that that's what you're supposed to do.
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How the hell do you do number 6.. hints please not answers D:
Edit: Nevermind i figured it out.. 6(6) is gay though..
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6(6)...
[Spoiler]not a clue how to decipher the code in the source code. Any ideas?[/spoilers]
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8 is utterly retarded, after 20 mins of wtf wtf i just typed in a random guess and it worked
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On September 08 2010 04:06 throttled wrote:
5b answer was absolutely retarded. The pattern has almost nothing to do with the information given in the riddle.
I love how these "riddles" have absolutely nothing to do with intelligence. I really wish there was one of these that was actually based on logical deduction and not finding out what they don't tell you. The "clues" are always just abstract interpretations of information the author has withheld from you, and if you get the correct answer all you've proven is you've guessed the authors interpretation of the withheld information correctly. It's not like there is a complex pattern to figure out, the pattern itself is extremely simple. The problem is that he doesn't give you nearly enough information to formulate the correct pattern without guessing between multiple patterns, all of which could follow from the information given.
Great post and I 100% agree.
The riddle website I am looking for is exactly how you explained a good riddle. It just had a line or a picture that you had to figure out, sometimes you had to look in the page source for additional hints, but there sure as well as no image editing or anything.
It was really popular, I remember doing it probably 2 years back, and IIRC, there was 2 parts to it. One went from 1-50 and the other 1-99, so it was surely going to keep you busy for awhile.
This zestriddle has a lot of red herrings which makes it annoying as hell. You get several different clues that lead you into different directions, and its a matter of testing out all the possibilities for all the different clues before you FINALLY get the answer. I think it was question 4 which the picture was a word puzzle, if you read the text and looked in the page source, it made you think about The Wizard of Oz, then it had "THINGs in OZ" so you think about clues with THING OZ. Then you look at the word puzzle and there are bunch of more clues there.
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On September 08 2010 04 throttled wrote:
5b answer was absolutely retarded. The pattern has almost nothing to do with the information given in the riddle.
I love how these "riddles" have absolutely nothing to do with intelligence. I really wish there was one of these that was actually based on logical deduction and not finding out what they don't tell you. The "clues" are always just abstract interpretations of information the author has withheld from you, and if you get the correct answer all you've proven is you've guessed the authors interpretation of the withheld information correctly. It's not like there is a complex pattern to figure out, the pattern itself is extremely simple. The problem is that he doesn't give you nearly enough information to formulate the correct pattern without guessing between multiple patterns, all of which could follow from the information given.
Well, intelligence includes abstract thought, there is no information withheld, getting it just requires some abstract analysis(sometimes logical deduction is just enough though), a thing computers can't do so far and that's why we haven't heard of artificial INTELLIGENCE. If you look at artists, they give away "abstract interpretations of information" all the time and you can't bash them for that, literature experts excel in "guessing the authors interpretation", which is an act that requires a lot of intelligence if you want to do it well. When you're doing the riddle it's a similar thing, but you get a 100% confirmation when you're on the right track, literature guys would kill for that .
I think you miss that the right pattern you've got to follow is always the most elegant and is matching the clues. It's not like you try ten different things and one of them just fits and gets you through. When you're on the right way you know it's good long way before you type in the answer. You also say that the patterns are simple, but people find them simple only just right after they solve the riddle. When they get it after long hours, it's almost always the "HOW COME I HAD NOT GOTTEN THIS EARLIER, IT'S SO CLEAR NOW!", rather than "Oh, this answer seems to match, but previous ones were as good." you suggest.
On September 08 2010 17 Consummate wrote:
Great post and I 100% agree.
The riddle website I am looking for is exactly how you explained a good riddle. It just had a line or a picture that you had to figure out, sometimes you had to look in the page source for additional hints, but there sure as well as no image editing or anything.
It was really popular, I remember doing it probably 2 years back, and IIRC, there was 2 parts to it. One went from 1-50 and the other 1-99, so it was surely going to keep you busy for awhile.
This zestriddle has a lot of red herrings which makes it annoying as hell. You get several different clues that lead you into different directions, and its a matter of testing out all the possibilities for all the different clues before you FINALLY get the answer. I think it was question 4 which the picture was a word puzzle, if you read the text and looked in the page source, it made you think about The Wizard of Oz, then it had "THINGs in OZ" so you think about clues with THING OZ. Then you look at the word puzzle and there are bunch of more clues there.
My response above could fit here as well, but I'd like to add that image editing stuff isnt THAT frequent after all and many people find doing it rewarding (it isn't anything a casual computer user with brief wikipedia training couldn't do). Additionally, those things like story text even though at times misleading add this dark mood to the game which most(including me) zesters love, still I understand that some might like just a treat for the mind not the soul . REAL red herrings happen less frequently and in the end they're just red herrings, it finally gets obvious that it's not the way to go. BTW, the word puzzle one, No. 3 is a bad example, it's one of the most straightforward ones(don't know if you've finished it).
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this was 2 ez tks guize i ddi this with my cat in liek 12 minutes
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Every single one of these riddle websites I've found all focus around image editing or googling (I have absolutely no idea how the google one works)
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I got to like level 40 on this about 2 years ago and I gave up because it started getting ridiculous and so abstract. It's fun but after a while you'll see how silly it gets IMO. Anyway gl.
In fact, just found my old answer list, I can provide answers but not hints as I didn't right down my thought processes. I originally got to 53. Might try getting to 73 where exodus starts.
Don't take it to seriously and you can have a lot of fun with it.
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I have 1 question about the number 5 riddle
+ Show Spoiler +How was I even supposed to know the answer? I can read the "Pi, sick, drama, mirror on the mirror image but it leads nowhere. The title "my reflection" doesn't really help too. The text at bottom is written backwards but the letters are not reversed, which means absolutely nothing. "Dirty... " in source code doesn't seem to help either. I was eventually able to guess it by trying about 10 words which seemed to make sense. What is the supposed train of thought behind the correct answer?
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On September 09 2010 22:35 Scipaeus121212 wrote:I have 1 question about the number 5 riddle + Show Spoiler +How was I even supposed to know the answer? I can read the "Pi, sick, drama, mirror on the mirror image but it leads nowhere. The title "my reflection" doesn't really help too. The text at bottom is written backwards but the letters are not reversed, which means absolutely nothing. "Dirty... " in source code doesn't seem to help either. I was eventually able to guess it by trying about 10 words which seemed to make sense. What is the supposed train of thought behind the correct answer?
+ Show Spoiler +To be honest, I took a couple attempts before I had the right one too but it does make sense. First of all I checked the mirror for clues and only really noticed the word mirror. Then you get a "false" page saying mirrors are a lie. The theme of riddle 5 seems to be backwards/mirrored so the answer kind of makes sense. Also the clue in the sourcecode "Dirty" refers to the mirror aswell. Its 5b that didn't make sense to me at all...
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i spent so much of my life on notpron that i'm not sure i want to play this.
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