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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
On September 06 2010 07:10 Gerbeeros wrote: I got the first answer immediatly but apparently didnt include the htm at the end and spent friggin hour to think the first puzzle trough over and over again. This >_> Thanks for posting this. Too bad I have work early in the morning tomorrow. Will have this bookmarked though  | ||
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Dog22
United States140 Posts
edit: now I might just quit at 12...it looks ridiculous | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
I looked at like the first 10 answeres and i have no idea how anyone could figgure them out, and i thought i had good problem solving skills :\ | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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Plissken_2097
Spain628 Posts
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throttled
United States382 Posts
I love how these "riddles" have absolutely nothing to do with intelligence. I really wish there was one of these that was actually based on logical deduction and not finding out what they don't tell you. The "clues" are always just abstract interpretations of information the author has withheld from you, and if you get the correct answer all you've proven is you've guessed the authors interpretation of the withheld information correctly. It's not like there is a complex pattern to figure out, the pattern itself is extremely simple. The problem is that he doesn't give you nearly enough information to formulate the correct pattern without guessing between multiple patterns, all of which could follow from the information given. | ||
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Bair
United States698 Posts
And got the second. Stuck on the third... | ||
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tissue
Malaysia441 Posts
On September 08 2010 04:06 throttled wrote: 5b answer was absolutely retarded. The pattern has almost nothing to do with the information given in the riddle. I love how these "riddles" have absolutely nothing to do with intelligence. I really wish there was one of these that was actually based on logical deduction and not finding out what they don't tell you. The "clues" are always just abstract interpretations of information the author has withheld from you, and if you get the correct answer all you've proven is you've guessed the authors interpretation of the withheld information correctly. It's not like there is a complex pattern to figure out, the pattern itself is extremely simple. The problem is that he doesn't give you nearly enough information to formulate the correct pattern without guessing between multiple patterns, all of which could follow from the information given. They don't really deserve to be called riddles imo. They're more like rather silly puzzles where you try to guess what the maker was high on when he thought up the question. Also I don't get wading through all the gunk and source code to find an mp3 that references a song title that references a poem containing the original question. Oh and don't forget the perennial favorite, increasing the fucking contrast/lighting using an image editor. I'm not against puzzles where getting there is half the fun, but when it's all you have to offer, it just shows lack of originality and creativity. If your riddle is puzzling and entertaining and mystifying why do you want people to dig for it? Just post it in plain text and let it speak for itself. | ||
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Bair
United States698 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + And I understand the blue/white reflect some and not others bit from 5b, I just do not get how the answer is + Show Spoiler + downward spiral | ||
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plated.rawr
Norway1676 Posts
On September 08 2010 06:21 Bair wrote: Okay....I got 5b, but can someone explain to my the thought process for getting that? I used hints from the thread. + Show Spoiler + And I understand the blue/white reflect some and not others bit from 5b, I just do not get how the answer is + Show Spoiler + downward spiral + Show Spoiler + White is read straight forward, blue is read backwards. You only read the topmost letters, and voila. Yea, that's not what I figured out from the hints given, but I did figure it out eventually by using my NIN knowledge and trying to reverse / straight parts of the text over time. | ||
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LooseMoose
United States184 Posts
On September 08 2010 06:21 Bair wrote: Okay....I got 5b, but can someone explain to my the thought process for getting that? I used hints from the thread. + Show Spoiler + And I understand the blue/white reflect some and not others bit from 5b, I just do not get how the answer is + Show Spoiler + downward spiral + Show Spoiler + If you were to write down all the words and then use the "blue is mirror white is not" or w/e then you would flip all the letters under blue and then have all the letters "fall down" to the bottom. The green S at the top shows you that that's what you're supposed to do. | ||
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ThE.SparkZ
United States381 Posts
Edit: Nevermind i figured it out.. 6(6) is gay though.. | ||
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Bair
United States698 Posts
[Spoiler]not a clue how to decipher the code in the source code. Any ideas?[/spoilers] | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
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Consummate
Australia191 Posts
On September 08 2010 04:06 throttled wrote: 5b answer was absolutely retarded. The pattern has almost nothing to do with the information given in the riddle. I love how these "riddles" have absolutely nothing to do with intelligence. I really wish there was one of these that was actually based on logical deduction and not finding out what they don't tell you. The "clues" are always just abstract interpretations of information the author has withheld from you, and if you get the correct answer all you've proven is you've guessed the authors interpretation of the withheld information correctly. It's not like there is a complex pattern to figure out, the pattern itself is extremely simple. The problem is that he doesn't give you nearly enough information to formulate the correct pattern without guessing between multiple patterns, all of which could follow from the information given. Great post and I 100% agree. The riddle website I am looking for is exactly how you explained a good riddle. It just had a line or a picture that you had to figure out, sometimes you had to look in the page source for additional hints, but there sure as well as no image editing or anything. It was really popular, I remember doing it probably 2 years back, and IIRC, there was 2 parts to it. One went from 1-50 and the other 1-99, so it was surely going to keep you busy for awhile. This zestriddle has a lot of red herrings which makes it annoying as hell. You get several different clues that lead you into different directions, and its a matter of testing out all the possibilities for all the different clues before you FINALLY get the answer. I think it was question 4 which the picture was a word puzzle, if you read the text and looked in the page source, it made you think about The Wizard of Oz, then it had "THINGs in OZ" so you think about clues with THING OZ. Then you look at the word puzzle and there are bunch of more clues there. | ||
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EerieNewb
Poland73 Posts
On September 08 2010 04 throttled wrote: 5b answer was absolutely retarded. The pattern has almost nothing to do with the information given in the riddle. I love how these "riddles" have absolutely nothing to do with intelligence. I really wish there was one of these that was actually based on logical deduction and not finding out what they don't tell you. The "clues" are always just abstract interpretations of information the author has withheld from you, and if you get the correct answer all you've proven is you've guessed the authors interpretation of the withheld information correctly. It's not like there is a complex pattern to figure out, the pattern itself is extremely simple. The problem is that he doesn't give you nearly enough information to formulate the correct pattern without guessing between multiple patterns, all of which could follow from the information given. Well, intelligence includes abstract thought, there is no information withheld, getting it just requires some abstract analysis(sometimes logical deduction is just enough though), a thing computers can't do so far and that's why we haven't heard of artificial INTELLIGENCE. If you look at artists, they give away "abstract interpretations of information" all the time and you can't bash them for that, literature experts excel in "guessing the authors interpretation", which is an act that requires a lot of intelligence if you want to do it well. When you're doing the riddle it's a similar thing, but you get a 100% confirmation when you're on the right track, literature guys would kill for that .I think you miss that the right pattern you've got to follow is always the most elegant and is matching the clues. It's not like you try ten different things and one of them just fits and gets you through. When you're on the right way you know it's good long way before you type in the answer. You also say that the patterns are simple, but people find them simple only just right after they solve the riddle. When they get it after long hours, it's almost always the "HOW COME I HAD NOT GOTTEN THIS EARLIER, IT'S SO CLEAR NOW!", rather than "Oh, this answer seems to match, but previous ones were as good." you suggest. On September 08 2010 17 Consummate wrote: Great post and I 100% agree. The riddle website I am looking for is exactly how you explained a good riddle. It just had a line or a picture that you had to figure out, sometimes you had to look in the page source for additional hints, but there sure as well as no image editing or anything. It was really popular, I remember doing it probably 2 years back, and IIRC, there was 2 parts to it. One went from 1-50 and the other 1-99, so it was surely going to keep you busy for awhile. This zestriddle has a lot of red herrings which makes it annoying as hell. You get several different clues that lead you into different directions, and its a matter of testing out all the possibilities for all the different clues before you FINALLY get the answer. I think it was question 4 which the picture was a word puzzle, if you read the text and looked in the page source, it made you think about The Wizard of Oz, then it had "THINGs in OZ" so you think about clues with THING OZ. Then you look at the word puzzle and there are bunch of more clues there. My response above could fit here as well, but I'd like to add that image editing stuff isnt THAT frequent after all and many people find doing it rewarding (it isn't anything a casual computer user with brief wikipedia training couldn't do). Additionally, those things like story text even though at times misleading add this dark mood to the game which most(including me) zesters love, still I understand that some might like just a treat for the mind not the soul  . REAL red herrings happen less frequently and in the end they're just red herrings, it finally gets obvious that it's not the way to go. BTW, the word puzzle one, No. 3 is a bad example, it's one of the most straightforward ones(don't know if you've finished it). | ||
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-ty[r]ant
United States140 Posts
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Consummate
Australia191 Posts
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Dr.Lettuce
United Kingdom663 Posts
In fact, just found my old answer list, I can provide answers but not hints as I didn't right down my thought processes. I originally got to 53. Might try getting to 73 where exodus starts. Don't take it to seriously and you can have a lot of fun with it. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + How was I even supposed to know the answer? I can read the "Pi, sick, drama, mirror on the mirror image but it leads nowhere. The title "my reflection" doesn't really help too. The text at bottom is written backwards but the letters are not reversed, which means absolutely nothing. "Dirty... " in source code doesn't seem to help either. I was eventually able to guess it by trying about 10 words which seemed to make sense. What is the supposed train of thought behind the correct answer? | ||
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