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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On September 11 2010 11:55 Offhand wrote: Yes, you can, that's exactly what happened in the 60's. Civil Rights didn't make anyone more tolerant, it just enforced it. The mosque is perfectly legal, it's just an emotional issue. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
Far fetched? Perhaps. But as I see it its the best answer I have. You can't tell someone that God doesn't exist. For really, there is no direct proof that God does/does not exist. And when I say God, I mean God in the truest form. Personally I believe it to be Allah because I found truth in His...transcending description. You can say, "Oh hey, perhaps there are flaws with this particular religion." But ultimately the question of whether a religion can exist and whether there is a God(two different questions) lays down to faith, and belief. And that is something you have no right to question someone on when you yourself have nothing but that. But now I'm just ranting. Just my thoughts, anyway. | ||
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jdwashere
United States62 Posts
http://www.youtube.com/user/theamazingatheist?blend=1&ob=4#p/u/3/oPC-isxrhTs Also I am agnostic, not a Muslim. | ||
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Hikko
United States1126 Posts
And while I believe in free speech as an important part of our country, the dude in Gainesville burning Korans isn't doing anyone a favor--it's a "you're screwing it up for everyone else in the country" kind of deal. | ||
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
Seriously, it's been said before. All talking about these incidents does is create hate. ************_o *THREAD* | ************ |\ Glad Quran burning got called off. | ||
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SuperXlax
United States197 Posts
Hisham Elzanaty (who claims to have a majority ownership interest in the two-building site) calls it a publicity stunt and an insult. Elzanaty yesterday had said he was willing to sell the site and related lease rights for "18 or 20 million dollars." So it's just about money? Source: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/donald_trump_makes_bid_for_proposed_5ANYMOLLxkPKjOnOfO2NMN | ||
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starcraft911
Korea (South)1263 Posts
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Deyster
Jordan579 Posts
Also that Trump guy is just doing it for publicity, just wait before he starts using that for political purposes (or he already does? I don't know who that guy is, but I'm sure it's not "good will" behind it, but rather politics. Nobody pays $6 that easily). | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On September 11 2010 14:50 Hidden_MotiveS wrote: Go away thread! you've lived your usefulness to tell us what was going on. Stop inciting hate. Guy builds mosque. Guy burns Qurans. Guy gets revenge on guy burning books. World War 3. Seriously, it's been said before. All talking about these incidents does is create hate. ************_o *THREAD* | ************ |\ Glad Quran burning got called off. Don't think for a second that the guy is telling the truth he knew he was in a corner and Palin and Gingrich gave him a scapegoat the Mosque in New York. Also there are still Quran burnings scheduled today in TN, and the Westboro Baptist Church. | ||
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zealotz55
United States229 Posts
I am strongly against all forms of radical religious sects that use violence and intimidation to push their oppressive views onto others (many religious sects are guilty of this) The community center that is being built is BLOCKS away from ground zero. The AMERICAN Muslim community that is building the community center is just as offended by the acts of osama bin laden as any patriotic "American" is (perhaps more since those acts cause many ignorant people worldwide to adopt a negative view of their religion as a whole) This country has complete freedom of religion and freedom of speech and freedom for everyone to pursue happiness. If the community center was not allowed to be built it would violate all of these freedoms and many more that I didn't have the time to list. And furthermore every time some stupid ignorant white trash bible humping retard speaks out against this community center, another wave of Muslims is coerced by the recruitment propaganda that is being reinforced by the ACTUAL actions of our dumbest and most ill-informed citizens. If only these people knew that their stupidity was strengthening the enemy that executed the very attack that caused the tragedy they are so angered about. or maybe the dumb fucks just hate brown people so much they don't even care about the negative results of their actions. | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On September 11 2010 15:49 Deyster wrote: This is a politics issue. Elections are on doors and it's being used to pressure the Democrats. Somehow it's "cool" to hate on the Muslims right now in America, so the republicans are using that to win votes. Also that Trump guy is just doing it for publicity, just wait before he starts using that for political purposes (or he already does? I don't know who that guy is, but I'm sure it's not "good will" behind it, but rather politics. Nobody pays $6 that easily). No, he definitely can. Actually, so can I! Edit: but yeah even if it's 6 million, yes he can. | ||
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Khul Sadukar
Australia1735 Posts
On September 11 2010 11:59 Jibba wrote: I think the gays are being rediculous and only making the situation worse by trying to get into the Stonewall Inn. I think the blacks are being rediculous and only making the situation worse by trying to sit on the back of the bus. I think the christians are being rediculous and only making the situation worse by preaching their faith and upsetting the roman gods. I think you're being ridiculous and only making the situation worse by posting. I think your post is rediculous since your comparing gay rights and racist laws & offending imaginary gods to actually building a shrine to a faith at a place which only recently many people were killed in the name of. You dont see us building churches over in Afghanistan/Iraq do you? Wonder how well that would sit with the locals... | ||
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Thoreezhea1
United States532 Posts
ok so a mosque is being constructed at ground zero. OHMYGOD!!!! BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO GROUND ZERO MEANS THAT IT'S AN ALQAEDA PLOT MEANING THAT MUSLIMS MUST BE INVOLVED IN MAKING THIS AND THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY MUST BE KNOWLEDGABLE OF THE MOSQUE MEANING THAT OBAMA MUST BE A TERRORIST!!!! EDIT: If this were stated on television, I wouldn't be surprised. everything else has the same form of reasoning behind it. EDIT....2: I also find it odd that this was bumped and I replyed on patriots day | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32159 Posts
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3GreenStars
16 Posts
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
On September 12 2010 09:34 Khul Sadukar wrote: I think your post is rediculous since your comparing gay rights and racist laws & offending imaginary gods to actually building a shrine to a faith at a place which only recently many people were killed in the name of. You dont see us building churches over in Afghanistan/Iraq do you? Wonder how well that would sit with the locals... I think his post is spot on. People against this are just stereotyping and discriminating based upon the religion. In fact, most people against this are just extrapolating the actions of extremists to the whole group. They want to build a shrine of faith to Islam? OH MY GOD, CAN'T HAPPEN. NOT NEAR GROUND ZERO! You know what else? It was MEN who drove those planes. Therefore, wouldn't it offend all women to have anything dealing with men near ground zero? QUICK, DESTROY ALL MEN'S BATHROOMS NEAR GROUND ZERO! Oh no, those people were wearing CLOTHES too? DESTROY ALL DEPARTMENT STORES! It might offend the nudists! God, do people not realize that Muslims died in the attack too? Over 300 American Muslims died in that attack. Therefore, we should discriminate against Muslims and their faith? >_> | ||
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Khul Sadukar
Australia1735 Posts
On September 12 2010 10:09 ghrur wrote: I think his post is spot on. People against this are just stereotyping and discriminating based upon the religion. In fact, most people against this are just extrapolating the actions of extremists to the whole group. They want to build a shrine of faith to Islam? OH MY GOD, CAN'T HAPPEN. NOT NEAR GROUND ZERO! You know what else? It was MEN who drove those planes. Therefore, wouldn't it offend all women to have anything dealing with men near ground zero? QUICK, DESTROY ALL MEN'S BATHROOMS NEAR GROUND ZERO! Oh no, those people were wearing CLOTHES too? DESTROY ALL DEPARTMENT STORES! It might offend the nudists! God, do people not realize that Muslims died in the attack too? Over 300 American Muslims died in that attack. Therefore, we should discriminate against Muslims and their faith? >_> Go build a church in Irag I dare you. See the reaction from the locals. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On September 12 2010 10:20 Khul Sadukar wrote: Go build a church in Irag I dare you. See the reaction from the locals. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_churches_and_monasteries_in_Mosul | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On September 11 2010 12:00 DannyJ wrote: Civil Rights didn't make anyone more tolerant, it just enforced it. The mosque is perfectly legal, it's just an emotional issue. The entire idea of legality and "the opinion of the government" has a huge impact on the general perceptions of right and wrong. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
it reminds me in high school of pep rallies where they had skits making fun of the other school our football team was playing, and how people talked about how much they hated kids from the other high school and how we were rivals i didn't rlly give a fuck i didn't know anyone from the other school so I reserved judgement, but of course you don't tell anyone that in your high school, wouldn't want to look weird or anything. just played computer games (starcraft) when I got home life was good now it's starcraft 2 and other new games | ||
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