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2. No recruiting for your cockamamie projects (you won't replace facebook with 3 dudes you found on the internet and $20)
3. If you can't articulate why a language is bad, don't start slinging shit about it. Just remember that nothing is worse than making CSS IE6 compatible.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17384 Posts
July 08 2016 12:47 GMT
#14781
How are your experiences with React.js if any?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
July 08 2016 21:08 GMT
#14782
Syntax is a bit confusing at first but makes very clear what is happening. Forces you to think in a certain way about your application (one way data flow, smart/dumb components), which is a plus for big projects imo.
Afaik it's the first true component framework, so there's that.

Only been working with it for 15/20 hours, but we plan on switching to it fully. I'll keep you updated if you're interested.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17384 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-09 02:23:13
July 09 2016 02:22 GMT
#14783
On July 09 2016 06:08 Cynry wrote:
Syntax is a bit confusing at first but makes very clear what is happening. Forces you to think in a certain way about your application (one way data flow, smart/dumb components), which is a plus for big projects imo.
Afaik it's the first true component framework, so there's that.

Only been working with it for 15/20 hours, but we plan on switching to it fully. I'll keep you updated if you're interested.


Please do. We want to decouple front- and back-end development and can't really decide between Angular/Backbone/Ember and React since no one at the company has any real experience with any of them.

Also relevant:
http://www.isaacchansky.me/days-since-last-new-js-framework/

Fucking depressing...
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
July 09 2016 06:12 GMT
#14784
React is a bit ahead in the component...race ? Not really a race, but they do it, angular will in 2.0 I think, but our front end guy seems to think it's a bit patched up on angular, it's alright according to him, not on react's level though. Then, if you plan on going mobile, there's react native and the promise somewhere along the line of having to code your interface only once (at least, reuse some parts).
And then there's the thing I hate saying, but I think React is winning the trend war. Yep.
Oh and also, angular performance just sucks compared to react. At least this metric makes some sense...

About javascript frameworks and "fatigue" (cause that's a thing now). Yeah. Depressing. How many times have I yelled at my comp "this shouldn't be that complicated" when setting up meteor + react + whatever else (wanna put some redux in there ? How about DnD for drap and drop ? There always seems to be a + something you can add to look cool). Sometimes a hint of "it would be better if..." but then this is how new frameworks appear so you keep that to yourself and keep writing 3 wrappers for every piece of UI. Meh.
FreeZer
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden288 Posts
July 09 2016 17:20 GMT
#14785
On July 08 2016 21:47 Manit0u wrote:
How are your experiences with React.js if any?


I'm using Rails and React.js right now in a hobby project at home. I'm very satisified with React and I think if offers a good way of structuring your javascript into view-components. However, to get great benefit from it in a javascript-app it really should be used together with Redux and Immutable.js.

Basically the idea is that you have a pipeline, where you insert actions in one end, and get a rendered component out from the other end. Any action that causes the model to change to a new state will trigger a series of re-rendering through the react-components that are affected, and the immutability and single point of entry for changes into your program makes it very easy to reason about your application and understand what is happening. If you like functional programming you definately will like React + redux.
Ahh Scept-- hey where did you come from?
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
July 09 2016 21:57 GMT
#14786
On July 09 2016 15:12 Cynry wrote:

About javascript frameworks and "fatigue" (cause that's a thing now). Yeah. Depressing. How many times have I yelled at my comp "this shouldn't be that complicated" when setting up meteor + react + whatever else (wanna put some redux in there ?

Or you could be using ember-cli.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
July 09 2016 22:22 GMT
#14787
Disregarding if ember is a good solution or not, you gotta appreciate the irony in the answer you gave at a sentence that started with javascript fatigue ^^ "Oh hey, easy, add another framework"
Hhanh00
Profile Joined May 2016
34 Posts
July 10 2016 01:52 GMT
#14788
After having tried many of them (including the major ones - Angular/Backbone/Ember and React) I recommend you consider MithrilJS. You can take a look at various JS framework in practice at http://todomvc.com/

- Angular: Feels simple at the beginning but doing something special requires deep understanding of the framework. I.e. there is a lot of 'magic' going on.
- Backbone: Takes care of model + bindings but no view
- Ember: Opiniated and the template engine comes from a different project. The integration isn't without friction.
- React: View only. Need to add redux or something similar.

Mithril is similar to react, it also does virtual dom diffing but it includes the MVC part and it's smaller and faster.

TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28091 Posts
July 12 2016 03:15 GMT
#14789
https://pythonclock.org/

RIP Python 2!!
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 12 2016 13:30 GMT
#14790
I built a WAMP stack, but I'm having an issue with curl where my phpinfo says it is enabled, but the function calls are causing errors. Will provide additional info in spoiler below. Any help getting this resolved would be appreciated.

+ Show Spoiler +


The curl dll file is uncommented in my php.ini file and the server has been bounced. phpinfo claims that curl is enabled, but the function calls are not working.

Test Script:
Fatal error: Call to undefined function curl_init() in index.php on line 2
$ch = curl_init();


+ Show Spoiler [phpinfo] +
curl

cURL support => enabled
cURL Information => 7.49.1
Age => 3
Features
AsynchDNS => Yes
CharConv => No
Debug => No
GSS-Negotiate => No
IDN => Yes
IPv6 => Yes
krb4 => No
Largefile => Yes
libz => Yes
NTLM => Yes
NTLMWB => No
SPNEGO => Yes
SSL => Yes
SSPI => Yes
TLS-SRP => No
Protocols => dict, file, ftp, ftps, gopher, http, https, imap, imaps, ldap, pop3, pop3s, rtsp, scp, sftp, smtp, smtps, telnet, tftp
Host => i386-pc-win32
SSL Version => OpenSSL/1.0.1t
ZLib Version => 1.2.7.3
libSSH Version => libssh2/1.7.0


I've seen some stack overflow posts about a corrupted curl dll, but I'm using php 5.6.23 which isn't one of the afflicted versions.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17384 Posts
July 12 2016 14:13 GMT
#14791
On July 12 2016 22:30 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I built a WAMP stack, but I'm having an issue with curl where my phpinfo says it is enabled, but the function calls are causing errors. Will provide additional info in spoiler below. Any help getting this resolved would be appreciated.

+ Show Spoiler +


The curl dll file is uncommented in my php.ini file and the server has been bounced. phpinfo claims that curl is enabled, but the function calls are not working.

Test Script:
Fatal error: Call to undefined function curl_init() in index.php on line 2
$ch = curl_init();


+ Show Spoiler [phpinfo] +
curl

cURL support => enabled
cURL Information => 7.49.1
Age => 3
Features
AsynchDNS => Yes
CharConv => No
Debug => No
GSS-Negotiate => No
IDN => Yes
IPv6 => Yes
krb4 => No
Largefile => Yes
libz => Yes
NTLM => Yes
NTLMWB => No
SPNEGO => Yes
SSL => Yes
SSPI => Yes
TLS-SRP => No
Protocols => dict, file, ftp, ftps, gopher, http, https, imap, imaps, ldap, pop3, pop3s, rtsp, scp, sftp, smtp, smtps, telnet, tftp
Host => i386-pc-win32
SSL Version => OpenSSL/1.0.1t
ZLib Version => 1.2.7.3
libSSH Version => libssh2/1.7.0


I've seen some stack overflow posts about a corrupted curl dll, but I'm using php 5.6.23 which isn't one of the afflicted versions.


One of the common problems with WAMP/XAMPP stacks is that there are multiple php.ini files (for sure there's a different one for cli and cgi) and it might be reading the wrong one for the request. Might look into that to begin with.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-12 14:29:30
July 12 2016 14:27 GMT
#14792
On July 12 2016 23:13 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2016 22:30 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I built a WAMP stack, but I'm having an issue with curl where my phpinfo says it is enabled, but the function calls are causing errors. Will provide additional info in spoiler below. Any help getting this resolved would be appreciated.

+ Show Spoiler +


The curl dll file is uncommented in my php.ini file and the server has been bounced. phpinfo claims that curl is enabled, but the function calls are not working.

Test Script:
Fatal error: Call to undefined function curl_init() in index.php on line 2
$ch = curl_init();


+ Show Spoiler [phpinfo] +
curl

cURL support => enabled
cURL Information => 7.49.1
Age => 3
Features
AsynchDNS => Yes
CharConv => No
Debug => No
GSS-Negotiate => No
IDN => Yes
IPv6 => Yes
krb4 => No
Largefile => Yes
libz => Yes
NTLM => Yes
NTLMWB => No
SPNEGO => Yes
SSL => Yes
SSPI => Yes
TLS-SRP => No
Protocols => dict, file, ftp, ftps, gopher, http, https, imap, imaps, ldap, pop3, pop3s, rtsp, scp, sftp, smtp, smtps, telnet, tftp
Host => i386-pc-win32
SSL Version => OpenSSL/1.0.1t
ZLib Version => 1.2.7.3
libSSH Version => libssh2/1.7.0


I've seen some stack overflow posts about a corrupted curl dll, but I'm using php 5.6.23 which isn't one of the afflicted versions.


One of the common problems with WAMP/XAMPP stacks is that there are multiple php.ini files (for sure there's a different one for cli and cgi) and it might be reading the wrong one for the request. Might look into that to begin with.


I'm not using one of the pre-compiled stacks. I installedcompiled php into C:\php and there is only one file called php.ini in that folder.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
July 12 2016 14:35 GMT
#14793
On July 12 2016 23:27 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2016 23:13 Manit0u wrote:
On July 12 2016 22:30 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I built a WAMP stack, but I'm having an issue with curl where my phpinfo says it is enabled, but the function calls are causing errors. Will provide additional info in spoiler below. Any help getting this resolved would be appreciated.

+ Show Spoiler +


The curl dll file is uncommented in my php.ini file and the server has been bounced. phpinfo claims that curl is enabled, but the function calls are not working.

Test Script:
Fatal error: Call to undefined function curl_init() in index.php on line 2
$ch = curl_init();


+ Show Spoiler [phpinfo] +
curl

cURL support => enabled
cURL Information => 7.49.1
Age => 3
Features
AsynchDNS => Yes
CharConv => No
Debug => No
GSS-Negotiate => No
IDN => Yes
IPv6 => Yes
krb4 => No
Largefile => Yes
libz => Yes
NTLM => Yes
NTLMWB => No
SPNEGO => Yes
SSL => Yes
SSPI => Yes
TLS-SRP => No
Protocols => dict, file, ftp, ftps, gopher, http, https, imap, imaps, ldap, pop3, pop3s, rtsp, scp, sftp, smtp, smtps, telnet, tftp
Host => i386-pc-win32
SSL Version => OpenSSL/1.0.1t
ZLib Version => 1.2.7.3
libSSH Version => libssh2/1.7.0


I've seen some stack overflow posts about a corrupted curl dll, but I'm using php 5.6.23 which isn't one of the afflicted versions.


One of the common problems with WAMP/XAMPP stacks is that there are multiple php.ini files (for sure there's a different one for cli and cgi) and it might be reading the wrong one for the request. Might look into that to begin with.


I'm not using one of the pre-compiled stacks. I installedcompiled php into C:\php and there is only one file called php.ini in that folder.


Do you have the line
extension=php_curl.dll
somewhere and is your curl dll the same version (x86/x64) as your PHP?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-12 14:42:37
July 12 2016 14:42 GMT
#14794
On July 12 2016 23:35 Morfildur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2016 23:27 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 12 2016 23:13 Manit0u wrote:
On July 12 2016 22:30 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I built a WAMP stack, but I'm having an issue with curl where my phpinfo says it is enabled, but the function calls are causing errors. Will provide additional info in spoiler below. Any help getting this resolved would be appreciated.

+ Show Spoiler +


The curl dll file is uncommented in my php.ini file and the server has been bounced. phpinfo claims that curl is enabled, but the function calls are not working.

Test Script:
Fatal error: Call to undefined function curl_init() in index.php on line 2
$ch = curl_init();


+ Show Spoiler [phpinfo] +
curl

cURL support => enabled
cURL Information => 7.49.1
Age => 3
Features
AsynchDNS => Yes
CharConv => No
Debug => No
GSS-Negotiate => No
IDN => Yes
IPv6 => Yes
krb4 => No
Largefile => Yes
libz => Yes
NTLM => Yes
NTLMWB => No
SPNEGO => Yes
SSL => Yes
SSPI => Yes
TLS-SRP => No
Protocols => dict, file, ftp, ftps, gopher, http, https, imap, imaps, ldap, pop3, pop3s, rtsp, scp, sftp, smtp, smtps, telnet, tftp
Host => i386-pc-win32
SSL Version => OpenSSL/1.0.1t
ZLib Version => 1.2.7.3
libSSH Version => libssh2/1.7.0


I've seen some stack overflow posts about a corrupted curl dll, but I'm using php 5.6.23 which isn't one of the afflicted versions.


One of the common problems with WAMP/XAMPP stacks is that there are multiple php.ini files (for sure there's a different one for cli and cgi) and it might be reading the wrong one for the request. Might look into that to begin with.


I'm not using one of the pre-compiled stacks. I installedcompiled php into C:\php and there is only one file called php.ini in that folder.


Do you have the line
extension=php_curl.dll
somewhere and is your curl dll the same version (x86/x64) as your PHP?


+ Show Spoiler [php.ini] +
;extension=php_bz2.dll
extension=php_curl.dll
;extension=php_fileinfo.dll
extension=php_gd2.dll
;extension=php_gettext.dll
;extension=php_gmp.dll
extension=php_intl.dll
;extension=php_imap.dll
;extension=php_interbase.dll
;extension=php_ldap.dll
extension=php_mbstring.dll
;extension=php_exif.dll ; Must be after mbstring as it depends on it
;extension=php_mysql.dll
extension=php_mysqli.dll
;extension=php_oci8_12c.dll ; Use with Oracle Database 12c Instant Client
extension=php_openssl.dll
;extension=php_pdo_firebird.dll
;extension=php_pdo_mysql.dll
;extension=php_pdo_oci.dll
;extension=php_pdo_odbc.dll
;extension=php_pdo_pgsql.dll
;extension=php_pdo_sqlite.dll
;extension=php_pgsql.dll
;extension=php_shmop.dll
extension=php_soap.dll
;extension=php_sockets.dll
extension=php_sqlite3.dll
;extension=php_sybase_ct.dll
;extension=php_tidy.dll
extension=php_xmlrpc.dll
;extension=php_xsl.dll


They're both x86 yes.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19144 Posts
July 12 2016 14:51 GMT
#14795
give up on wamp

acquire Vagrant
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
July 12 2016 15:22 GMT
#14796
On July 12 2016 12:15 TheEmulator wrote:
https://pythonclock.org/

RIP Python 2!!


and yet, every new python program I write is still in python 2. I should probably fix this habit.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-12 20:16:43
July 12 2016 20:09 GMT
#14797
I'm pretty sure it's a path issue with my Apache server. Is there any reason my system path wouldn't be synced so it can pull the files? I have already bounced the windows server to try to get the system path working.

nope.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17384 Posts
July 12 2016 20:28 GMT
#14798
Have you tried managing extensions through wamp panel?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-12 20:33:57
July 12 2016 20:33 GMT
#14799
On July 13 2016 05:28 Manit0u wrote:
Have you tried managing extensions through wamp panel?


I built each component of the stack myself. I'm not actually utilizing WAMP.

If I run php -m then the modules are listed (curl, mysqli, openssl), but when I run phpinfo() on the server the modules aren't listed so it has to be something wrong with my Apache installation; I just can't figure out what yet.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17384 Posts
July 12 2016 23:24 GMT
#14800
May I suggest trying to switch to Nginx for a while? This way you could make sure if it's a problem with Apache or PHP installation.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
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