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bautistaaa
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9 Posts
July 10 2011 19:28 GMT
#1281
hey guys, im a .NET(C#) developer for IBM. Got decent experience in both .NET and PL/SQL, I favor database more but if you have any questions I hope I can help!
O3
Profile Joined November 2007
Singapore99 Posts
July 10 2011 19:36 GMT
#1282
On July 11 2011 04:16 AkaHenchway wrote:
Hey guys having some trouble again (Java). I have looked aroud for some help but every explanation im given is way above my head.....write a program taht prompts the user to enter the number of students and each students name and score, and finally displays the name of the student with the highest score is what I am supposed to be doing.
+ Show Spoiler +

import java.util.Scanner;

public class highscore{

public static void main(String[] args){

Scanner input = new Scanner(System.in);

int i = 0;

System.out.print("How many student's are there? ");

int count = input.nextInt();

do{

if (i > count)

break;



System.out.print("Students name: ");

String n = input.nextLine();

System.out.print("Student Score: ");

int score = input.nextInt();

i++;}



while (i != 0);

System.out.println("No students left");


}

}



Basically I am unsure of how to put my 2 questions that I want to continuously ask over and over again into a loop. As it currently sits it rune/displays but has both quesitons I want to ask on the same line....Also unsure of how I will save the names inputted by the user as well as their scores since I will be recalling names and numbers further in the program.....I was suggested to create a student class and create a student object inside my loop, but frankly I need it explained out a little better.


You can create a Student Object with 2 "properties": Name and Score. Create your constructor, accessors, mutators.
Then you create an array that is based on the size the user states.
To ask 'that' number of times, make use of a for-loop that Scans in name and score.

To get the highest score, traverse through the array and use the Student Object's accessor to get the score. Compare to see who's score is highest at the end of traversal and print the score.


EvanED
Profile Joined October 2009
United States111 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 19:43:42
July 10 2011 19:42 GMT
#1283
On July 11 2011 04:03 RedJustice wrote:
Well I already know Java alright. (Not brilliantly, but have been using it for the past 5 years on and off, so what I don't know I can figure out eventually. I can't necessarily write super clean sexy code in Java, but I can write stuff that works.) I would just like to learn something a bit more professionally standard for the industry I want to work in, and I know it is not Java.

If you know Java, you already know most of C#. Microsoft basically took Java, made it less dumb, and called the result C#.

[B]OHmmm well for the C++ vs C#, it seems (please correct me if I'm wrong anywhere, just want to make sure I understand right)--

They are similar enough I could understand the other alright if I knew one.
C++ seems to be used the most in professional fields.

Unfortunately, this is probably true.

If C# is easier to work with, and would still give me a pretty good idea of C++, I think I would like to learn C# first, and then maybe I can use C++ later so I have less new things to worry about.

If your goal is to go to C++, I'd just make the switch now. C# would teach you maybe a couple small bits about C++ that you don't get from Java (e.g. the ability to do operator overloading), but really it's not worth it.

C# is a reasonably good language, and if you wanted to learn it, that's pretty reasonable... but it sounds like C++ is more of an ultimate goal. And if that's the case, and you'd just be using C# as a stepping stone, I think you shouldn't bother.

I'm not sure I'm the person to evaluate how worthy a goal "learn C++" is.
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 20:02:45
July 10 2011 19:45 GMT
#1284
I am reminded once again how stupid those compiler error messages are in C++. I've frickin' hacked stuff onto another C++ compiler but I can't for the life of me figure out why it doesn't like my constructor declaration. (and no I'm not gonna show it, it's my first lines of C++ in two years time and this is hella embarrassing I'll google it up)

GHAAAAA!

but it's a cool language.

Edit: Solved. Always put standard header includes at the the top, BEFORE the inclusions of your own header files. And thanks for the enigma, language designers. I'm sure there are occasions where it is useful to declare a struct as extern (I forgot a semicolon, of course).
I <3 the internet, I <3 you
EvanED
Profile Joined October 2009
United States111 Posts
July 10 2011 19:48 GMT
#1285
On July 11 2011 04:45 Badjas wrote:
I am reminded once again how stupid those compiler error messages are in C++. I've frickin' hacked stuff onto another C++ compiler but I can't for the life of me figure out why it doesn't like my constructor declaration. (and no I'm not gonna show it, it's my first lines of C++ in two years time and this is hella embarrassing I'll google it up)

GHAAAAA!

but it's a cool language.

Don't ever use Latex if you think C++ compiler errors are bad. The errors are no more helpful than "there's an error somewhere in your document" on a far-to-frequent basis. :-)
Siniyas
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany66 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 19:49:47
July 10 2011 19:49 GMT
#1286
On July 11 2011 04:36 O3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 04:16 AkaHenchway wrote:
Hey guys having some trouble again (Java). I have looked aroud for some help but every explanation im given is way above my head.....write a program taht prompts the user to enter the number of students and each students name and score, and finally displays the name of the student with the highest score is what I am supposed to be doing.
+ Show Spoiler +

import java.util.Scanner;

public class highscore{

public static void main(String[] args){

Scanner input = new Scanner(System.in);

int i = 0;

System.out.print("How many student's are there? ");

int count = input.nextInt();

do{

if (i > count)

break;



System.out.print("Students name: ");

String n = input.nextLine();

System.out.print("Student Score: ");

int score = input.nextInt();

i++;}



while (i != 0);

System.out.println("No students left");


}

}



Basically I am unsure of how to put my 2 questions that I want to continuously ask over and over again into a loop. As it currently sits it rune/displays but has both quesitons I want to ask on the same line....Also unsure of how I will save the names inputted by the user as well as their scores since I will be recalling names and numbers further in the program.....I was suggested to create a student class and create a student object inside my loop, but frankly I need it explained out a little better.


You can create a Student Object with 2 "properties": Name and Score. Create your constructor, accessors, mutators.
Then you create an array that is based on the size the user states.
To ask 'that' number of times, make use of a for-loop that Scans in name and score.

To get the highest score, traverse through the array and use the Student Object's accessor to get the score. Compare to see who's score is highest at the end of traversal and print the score.




Also the reason your questions are in the same line, is because you use print. Use println, to have a linebreak after the given text. You can also create a buffer for the highest score, so you dont have to make an extra for loop.
Let it rip
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
July 10 2011 19:49 GMT
#1287
On July 11 2011 04:48 EvanED wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 04:45 Badjas wrote:
I am reminded once again how stupid those compiler error messages are in C++. I've frickin' hacked stuff onto another C++ compiler but I can't for the life of me figure out why it doesn't like my constructor declaration. (and no I'm not gonna show it, it's my first lines of C++ in two years time and this is hella embarrassing I'll google it up)

GHAAAAA!

but it's a cool language.

Don't ever use Latex if you think C++ compiler errors are bad. The errors are no more helpful than "there's an error somewhere in your document" on a far-to-frequent basis. :-)

I love LaTeX ^_^
I <3 the internet, I <3 you
RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
July 10 2011 19:55 GMT
#1288
On July 11 2011 04:49 Badjas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 04:48 EvanED wrote:
On July 11 2011 04:45 Badjas wrote:
I am reminded once again how stupid those compiler error messages are in C++. I've frickin' hacked stuff onto another C++ compiler but I can't for the life of me figure out why it doesn't like my constructor declaration. (and no I'm not gonna show it, it's my first lines of C++ in two years time and this is hella embarrassing I'll google it up)

GHAAAAA!

but it's a cool language.

Don't ever use Latex if you think C++ compiler errors are bad. The errors are no more helpful than "there's an error somewhere in your document" on a far-to-frequent basis. :-)

I love LaTeX ^_^


LaTeX satisfied all of my hidden OCDness, lol. Frustrating to work with, but so pretty at the end. XD
AkaHenchway
Profile Joined October 2010
United States41 Posts
July 10 2011 19:58 GMT
#1289
On July 11 2011 04:36 O3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 04:16 AkaHenchway wrote:
Hey guys having some trouble again (Java). I have looked aroud for some help but every explanation im given is way above my head.....write a program taht prompts the user to enter the number of students and each students name and score, and finally displays the name of the student with the highest score is what I am supposed to be doing.
+ Show Spoiler +

import java.util.Scanner;

public class highscore{

public static void main(String[] args){

Scanner input = new Scanner(System.in);

int i = 0;

System.out.print("How many student's are there? ");

int count = input.nextInt();

do{

if (i > count)

break;



System.out.print("Students name: ");

String n = input.nextLine();

System.out.print("Student Score: ");

int score = input.nextInt();

i++;}



while (i != 0);

System.out.println("No students left");


}

}



Basically I am unsure of how to put my 2 questions that I want to continuously ask over and over again into a loop. As it currently sits it rune/displays but has both quesitons I want to ask on the same line....Also unsure of how I will save the names inputted by the user as well as their scores since I will be recalling names and numbers further in the program.....I was suggested to create a student class and create a student object inside my loop, but frankly I need it explained out a little better.


You can create a Student Object with 2 "properties": Name and Score. Create your constructor, accessors, mutators.
Then you create an array that is based on the size the user states.
To ask 'that' number of times, make use of a for-loop that Scans in name and score.

To get the highest score, traverse through the array and use the Student Object's accessor to get the score. Compare to see who's score is highest at the end of traversal and print the score.



We have not gone over arrays in this class (beginning java) . I'm not real sure what you exactly mean by making a student object with 2 properties as well as constructor , accessors, mutators. Think you could link me to an example .
Fuck the Bullshit
RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
July 10 2011 20:06 GMT
#1290
On July 11 2011 04:58 AkaHenchway wrote:
We have not gone over arrays in this class (beginning java) . I'm not real sure what you exactly mean by making a student object with 2 properties as well as constructor , accessors, mutators. Think you could link me to an example .


What have you gone over in class/what is the concept you are learning atm?
JeffJohnson
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany62 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 20:13:55
July 10 2011 20:11 GMT
#1291
On July 11 2011 04:45 Badjas wrote:
I am reminded once again how stupid those compiler error messages are in C++. I've frickin' hacked stuff onto another C++ compiler but I can't for the life of me figure out why it doesn't like my constructor declaration.


Give the clang compiler a try. It produces much much better error messages than g++ :-)

But afaik boost dont work with clan atm
bautistaaa
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9 Posts
July 10 2011 20:14 GMT
#1292
if you use objects, you should make the properties private and use get set accessors.
japro
Profile Joined August 2010
172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 20:26:42
July 10 2011 20:26 GMT
#1293
On July 11 2011 04:48 EvanED wrote:
Don't ever use Latex if you think C++ compiler errors are bad. The errors are no more helpful than "there's an error somewhere in your document" on a far-to-frequent basis. :-)

I think template errors in C++ beat latex errors by a fair margin :D. I'm working on a expression template library at the moment and every trivial mistake like missing a const or something will result in multiple errors that explode into pages over pages of unreadable "template traces".
EvanED
Profile Joined October 2009
United States111 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 20:55:43
July 10 2011 20:49 GMT
#1294
On July 11 2011 04:49 Badjas wrote:
I love LaTeX ^_^

Ugh. I use Latex because I don't know anything better (you probably have to get into some expensive professional book-publishing software or something). But man do I hate it with a passion. :-)

On July 11 2011 05:26 japro wrote:I think template errors in C++ beat latex errors by a fair margin :D. I'm working on a expression template library at the moment and every trivial mistake like missing a const or something will result in multiple errors that explode into pages over pages of unreadable "template traces".

I'm sure a lot of this is background -- I have a strong C++ background, while my knowledge of Tex/Latex is a lot more hacky and operational.

If you throw out the easy Latex errors like "undefined command" ("oh, I made a typo"), a lost of the time in both cases the first thing to do if you don't see what's wrong right away is to head to the line number they give you. A lot of the time that solves it. But after that is where I think they differ.

Template errors are awful, but it's very rare that I'll run across one that I can't figure out after looking at for a couple minutes. They really do mean something in the end.

But if you contrast that with Latex, a lost of the time the error message is basically nonsensical, and a lot of the time I don't know what to do to solve it other than try something different. A "missing \endcsname" error is essentially useless to me. (Or this.)

So for me the difference between those error messages is between "bad=hard to figure out" and "bad=completely meaningless."
AkaHenchway
Profile Joined October 2010
United States41 Posts
July 10 2011 20:56 GMT
#1295
On July 11 2011 05:06 RedJustice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 04:58 AkaHenchway wrote:
We have not gone over arrays in this class (beginning java) . I'm not real sure what you exactly mean by making a student object with 2 properties as well as constructor , accessors, mutators. Think you could link me to an example .


What have you gone over in class/what is the concept you are learning atm?

Currently just going over loops right now.
Fuck the Bullshit
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
July 10 2011 21:01 GMT
#1296
On July 11 2011 04:16 AkaHenchway wrote:
Hey guys having some trouble again (Java). I have looked aroud for some help but every explanation im given is way above my head.....write a program taht prompts the user to enter the number of students and each students name and score, and finally displays the name of the student with the highest score is what I am supposed to be doing.
+ Show Spoiler +

import java.util.Scanner;

public class highscore{

public static void main(String[] args){

Scanner input = new Scanner(System.in);

int i = 0;

System.out.print("How many student's are there? ");

int count = input.nextInt();

do{

if (i > count)

break;



System.out.print("Students name: ");

String n = input.nextLine();

System.out.print("Student Score: ");

int score = input.nextInt();

i++;}



while (i != 0);

System.out.println("No students left");


}

}



Basically I am unsure of how to put my 2 questions that I want to continuously ask over and over again into a loop. As it currently sits it rune/displays but has both quesitons I want to ask on the same line....Also unsure of how I will save the names inputted by the user as well as their scores since I will be recalling names and numbers further in the program.....I was suggested to create a student class and create a student object inside my loop, but frankly I need it explained out a little better.

You're trying to overcomplicate what you have to do here. They want you to take in students' names and their respective scores, and return the max score. You're trying to take in students' names and respective scores, store all of those in memory, then iterate over them and return the highest score. This middle part is a huge waste of memory and execution time for this task, since you're already iterating over the names (essentially) when they are input.

So instead of trying to store all of the names and scores, just simply store the highest one. Whenever you input a new score, check it against your stored score. If its higher, store the new score and name. If its not, leave the old one. When you get to the end of your inputting phase, you'll have the highest score stored already and can simply print out the name and score.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
japro
Profile Joined August 2010
172 Posts
July 10 2011 21:12 GMT
#1297
On July 11 2011 05:49 EvanED wrote:
Template errors are awful, but it's very rare that I'll run across one that I can't figure out after looking at for a couple minutes. They really do mean something in the end.

Yeah, it's mostly about finding the part where it says "Error:" between all the "instatiated from..." crap. Its basically the monochrome text version of where is Waldo...
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
July 10 2011 21:15 GMT
#1298
What do you guys think, is doing informatics (programming I guess) as a minor enough to become decent at programming or does that take a lot of additional extracurricular work? It'd be 60 ECTS points for the bachelor and another 30 for the master.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
AkaHenchway
Profile Joined October 2010
United States41 Posts
July 10 2011 21:20 GMT
#1299
On July 11 2011 06:01 tec27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 04:16 AkaHenchway wrote:
Hey guys having some trouble again (Java). I have looked aroud for some help but every explanation im given is way above my head.....write a program taht prompts the user to enter the number of students and each students name and score, and finally displays the name of the student with the highest score is what I am supposed to be doing.
+ Show Spoiler +

import java.util.Scanner;

public class highscore{

public static void main(String[] args){

Scanner input = new Scanner(System.in);

int i = 0;

System.out.print("How many student's are there? ");

int count = input.nextInt();

do{

if (i > count)

break;



System.out.print("Students name: ");

String n = input.nextLine();

System.out.print("Student Score: ");

int score = input.nextInt();

i++;}



while (i != 0);

System.out.println("No students left");


}

}



Basically I am unsure of how to put my 2 questions that I want to continuously ask over and over again into a loop. As it currently sits it rune/displays but has both quesitons I want to ask on the same line....Also unsure of how I will save the names inputted by the user as well as their scores since I will be recalling names and numbers further in the program.....I was suggested to create a student class and create a student object inside my loop, but frankly I need it explained out a little better.

You're trying to overcomplicate what you have to do here. They want you to take in students' names and their respective scores, and return the max score. You're trying to take in students' names and respective scores, store all of those in memory, then iterate over them and return the highest score. This middle part is a huge waste of memory and execution time for this task, since you're already iterating over the names (essentially) when they are input.

So instead of trying to store all of the names and scores, just simply store the highest one. Whenever you input a new score, check it against your stored score. If its higher, store the new score and name. If its not, leave the old one. When you get to the end of your inputting phase, you'll have the highest score stored already and can simply print out the name and score.


Yea just realized that not to long ago, here is where I am at so far, still struggling but getting there.
+ Show Spoiler +
import java.util.Scanner;

public class highscore{

public static void main(String[] args){

Scanner input = new Scanner(System.in);


int i = 0;

int hiscore;

string hiscorename;

System.out.print("How many student's are there? ");

int count = input.nextInt();

for(int i = 0; i < count; i++){

System.out.println("Students name: ");

string n = input.nextLine();

System.out.println("");

System.out.println("Student Score: ");

int score = input.nextInt();}

if (score > 0){

score = hiscore;

System.out.println(n + " has the highest score with " + hiscore);}

if (score > hiscore){

score = hiscore;

System.out.println(n + " has the highest score with " + hiscore);}

else if (hiscore > score);






while (i > count);

System.out.println("No students left");




Fuck the Bullshit
AkaHenchway
Profile Joined October 2010
United States41 Posts
July 10 2011 21:21 GMT
#1300
have a ton of errors in there that I can figure out either.
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