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1. This is not a "do my homework for me" thread. If you have specific questions, ask, but don't post an assignment or homework problem and expect an exact solution.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17970 Posts
April 30 2021 12:14 GMT
#20561
I killed myself laughing reading this. Have a good Friday!
https://joelgrus.com/2016/05/23/fizz-buzz-in-tensorflow/
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17243 Posts
April 30 2021 15:42 GMT
#20562
On April 30 2021 21:14 Acrofales wrote:
I killed myself laughing reading this. Have a good Friday!
https://joelgrus.com/2016/05/23/fizz-buzz-in-tensorflow/


Was fun
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
April 30 2021 18:13 GMT
#20563
On April 30 2021 21:14 Acrofales wrote:
I killed myself laughing reading this. Have a good Friday!
https://joelgrus.com/2016/05/23/fizz-buzz-in-tensorflow/


Lol very creative.
_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands676 Posts
May 01 2021 15:37 GMT
#20564
On April 30 2021 21:14 Acrofales wrote:
I killed myself laughing reading this. Have a good Friday!
https://joelgrus.com/2016/05/23/fizz-buzz-in-tensorflow/


I was snickering about this. My kids asked me if I could perhaps explain the joke. I couldn't.
"News is to the mind what sugar is to the body"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16679 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-01 22:59:19
May 01 2021 19:43 GMT
#20565
If one requires really good ammunition to convert a biz away from spreadsheets and onto databases... i recommend Grus book on spreadsheets. His way of expressing the shortcomings of spreadsheets really hits home with many of the admin people i've had to overcome when selling a far superior database solution.

These spreadsheet proponents are like zombies

Even though the economy in NA has taken an absolute beating... cool projects are still out there ... and the money is still there.
https://uwaterloo.ca/hire/recruitment-dates-and-procedure/student-earnings/us-hourly-earnings-information
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marianam
Profile Joined December 2020
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-22 15:01:05
June 19 2021 14:11 GMT
#20566
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17243 Posts
June 20 2021 19:12 GMT
#20567


Had me cracking.
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john.dire77
Profile Joined September 2021
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September 16 2021 07:31 GMT
#20568
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September 21 2021 08:59 GMT
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pavelgichko
Profile Joined November 2021
Bahrain3 Posts
November 30 2021 09:01 GMT
#20570
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enigmaticcam
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States280 Posts
December 16 2021 07:08 GMT
#20571
I've been racking my brain trying to figure out when I joined a leaderboard in Advent of Code, and I finally remembered it was from here. Nice to see some of you still playing
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17243 Posts
December 19 2021 14:13 GMT
#20572
I kinda stopped. Decided it's not really worth my time doing programming projects outside of work as I get burned out faster because of it.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
brianhill87
Profile Joined December 2021
5 Posts
December 29 2021 15:15 GMT
#20573
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17243 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-29 20:36:48
December 29 2021 20:35 GMT
#20574
On December 30 2021 00:15 brianhill87 wrote:
I recently started programming and agree that programming is no longer mathematics but linguistics. It is also important to know the algorithms. While I'm programming for Java and JavaScript.


You still need a lot of math but only really in very select fields or specialized projects. Machine learning, cryptography, game-engine/simulations etc. all require some above-average math skills (set theory, analysis, statistics, geometry etc. etc.).

For typical programming work you just need to be very strong with Boolean algebra.
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Joni_
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany352 Posts
December 30 2021 01:42 GMT
#20575
Hello dear people,
a friend and me intend to set up a small web-application for managing events at our local institute. We want to be able to have admins that can use the web interface to create and manage events and a public interface that does not require authentication to register for events. We were thinking of using Golang, because we dont know it and it seems like a good project to get to know it, have the web server linked to a database in which we create a table for each event, an entry in the table representing a registration to the event by a visitor, containing information dropped by a post request from a form served by the webserver upon visiting a corresponding route. (Obv im skimping on details here, but I guess you get the gist)

My impression is that such a web app would be writable in standard Go pretty easily, but im wondering if anyone here has any recommendations as to whether we should use any specific frameworks (or avoid certain ones). I have basically zero concrete knowledge about Go and its package/library infrastructure, so any input is welcome.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19030 Posts
December 30 2021 02:33 GMT
#20576
afaik Go isn't really a web language (though just about any language can be). Typically, websites are written with a PHP or Python backend and a JS frontend.

If you want to do it in Go, just keep in mind that as of a few versions ago (1.16 maybe?), the directory structure of Go changed, so a lot of the most popular guides, tutorials, and articles are out of date (mostly written for 1.12).

Also, Go is very anti-oop and working with json is a pita.

On the approach side of things, I would suggest using authenticatable entries (allow anonymous, but prefer user related). If you go from the start with that mindset, you'll be able to add things like future registration still linking events/matches/etc to accounts.
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15325 Posts
January 03 2022 07:41 GMT
#20577
Huh? Go is a great language for web app development.

You will probably be faster with Python or Node if you are just starting out, but if you want to learn Go anyway it's a decent choice for your webapp.
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Joni_
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany352 Posts
January 03 2022 14:58 GMT
#20578
On January 03 2022 16:41 zatic wrote:
Huh? Go is a great language for web app development.

You will probably be faster with Python or Node if you are just starting out, but if you want to learn Go anyway it's a decent choice for your webapp.

That's the goal. Im pair coding with a friend who already knows Python and Django fairly well, and both of us wanted to work with something we are unfamiliar with, but that will not involve learning a ton of new stuff until we can get productive. We were considering yesod or spock for Haskell since we'd both love to learn productive Haskell, as well as Rust, but felt that we could probably deliver the app in less time than it would take us to get productive in Haskell, and given that other people will probably have to maintain it, we wanted to ease the burden of learning on them as well... :>

Atm we plan to not really use any frameworks, since net/http and the basic routers seem to provide all functionality that we really need, but if anything has any further insights or recommendations, please let me know. :D
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19030 Posts
January 03 2022 16:01 GMT
#20579
If you plan to do anything more complicated than serving static pages, a framework will greatly reduce the amount of stress in your life
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17243 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-03 23:03:37
January 03 2022 22:58 GMT
#20580
On January 03 2022 23:58 Joni_ wrote:
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On January 03 2022 16:41 zatic wrote:
Huh? Go is a great language for web app development.

You will probably be faster with Python or Node if you are just starting out, but if you want to learn Go anyway it's a decent choice for your webapp.

That's the goal. Im pair coding with a friend who already knows Python and Django fairly well, and both of us wanted to work with something we are unfamiliar with, but that will not involve learning a ton of new stuff until we can get productive. We were considering yesod or spock for Haskell since we'd both love to learn productive Haskell, as well as Rust, but felt that we could probably deliver the app in less time than it would take us to get productive in Haskell, and given that other people will probably have to maintain it, we wanted to ease the burden of learning on them as well... :>

Atm we plan to not really use any frameworks, since net/http and the basic routers seem to provide all functionality that we really need, but if anything has any further insights or recommendations, please let me know. :D


Instead of Go I would probably look into something like Elixir (basically Erlang but with Ruby syntax so much easier to get into). They even have a very nice framework for web dev: https://www.phoenixframework.org/

I admire the attempt to go without framework but there are so many things that can potentially go wrong and that you need to orchestrate in a web app that if you're not using one you're just setting yourself up for writing a lot of boring and not very inspired code just to handle some basic stuff. I think it's better to focus on the stuff you'll actually need and you can delve into boring details later on if you still feel like it.

Just check out the phoenix intro video to see how much work it actually abstracts away even for a very simple app:
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