Mexico's Drug War - Page 40

On June 29 2012 09:38 Meta wrote:
People against the legalization of all drugs need to stay the fuck out of other people's business. Thanks for telling me what I can and can't do to my own body, dad. I appreciate the freedom you're taking away from me.

Solve the overdose issue by making medical treatment for drug addicts cheap and easy to access and then give people the choice of whatever they want to do with their lives and bodies. If you're against that you're against liberty and would be better off living in a place like like Saudi Arabia than the US.

On July 02 2012 05:19 DeepElemBlues wrote:


People for the legalization of all drugs should be held financially responsible for the costs of treating cocaine, opiate, methamphetamine addicts, etc. Then maybe they'll understand the situation is a little more complex than "don't tell me what I can and can't do with my body!"

Thanks for telling us that we should - perhaps by magic! - make medical treatment for addiction cheap and easy. You obviously know little to nothing about the health effects of hard drugs or the costs and difficulties of successfully treating serious addiction to them.

And the best part is the my way or the highway attitude; 'if you don't agree with me you're against liberty!' Yeah, that's a real freedom-loving attitude right there.

Thanks for telling us we should be responsible for your decisions and that we're against liberty if we disagree but sticking your hands in our pockets to try to make treatment for addiction cheap for the addict and easy to successfully accomplish is A-OK. I'm someone who thinks weed should be totally legal without even an age limit, but legalizing all drugs, incredibly stupid idea.

I would gladly take the financial responsibility of treatment and rehabilitation over the financial responsibility of the prison system. Just saying.

On June 22 2012 08:37 Apolo wrote:
I never understood the need to combat drugs. If people want to hurt their body, or just have some fun while hurting their body, or whatever the heck pleases them, as long as it doesn't interfere with other people, how the hecks should that be forbidden? Seriously, i'm glad i live in the first country to decriminalize drug use.

On July 02 2012 05:34 DeepElemBlues wrote:


From what I've read the average cost per day for prison and outpatient drug rehab is about the same, about 80 dollars.

Any more intensive kind of drug rehab though and the cost balloons, up to 500 dollars a day for a 28-day inpatient rehab, just the counseling part. Even more for a detoxification program because of all the medications that need to be used. No thanks.

(In the US don't know about other countries)

On July 02 2012 05:54 Feartheguru wrote:


You become a big trillionaire and pay for all emergency hospital visits from people suffering from drugs then propose this and no one will disagree kk.

On July 02 2012 09:08 daylu wrote:
America was willing to invade Iraq to do god knows what, so why not take over Mexico? Assassinate known cartels, over throw the government and just take it from there it couldn't possible be worse than it is now. Either that or start placing tank divisions on the border to prevent these guys from destroying any more American towns.

On July 02 2012 09:08 daylu wrote:
America was willing to invade Iraq to do god knows what, so why not take over Mexico? Assassinate known cartels, over throw the government and just take it from there it couldn't possible be worse than it is now. Either that or start placing tank divisions on the border to prevent these guys from destroying any more American towns.

On July 02 2012 05:19 DeepElemBlues wrote:


People for the legalization of all drugs should be held financially responsible for the costs of treating cocaine, opiate, methamphetamine addicts, etc. Then maybe they'll understand the situation is a little more complex than "don't tell me what I can and can't do with my body!"

Thanks for telling us that we should - perhaps by magic! - make medical treatment for addiction cheap and easy. You obviously know little to nothing about the health effects of hard drugs or the costs and difficulties of successfully treating serious addiction to them.

And the best part is the my way or the highway attitude; 'if you don't agree with me you're against liberty!' Yeah, that's a real freedom-loving attitude right there.

Thanks for telling us we should be responsible for your decisions and that we're against liberty if we disagree but sticking your hands in our pockets to try to make treatment for addiction cheap for the addict and easy to successfully accomplish is A-OK. I'm someone who thinks weed should be totally legal without even an age limit, but legalizing all drugs, incredibly stupid idea.

Polls have closed in Mexico's presidential election, in which voters seem set to bring the PRI, the party that ran the country for seven decades, back to power.

Nearly 80 million Mexicans were eligible to cast ballots in Sunday's vote. Election officials are expected to announce the first official results at around 04:45 GMT on Monday.

Final results are expected later in the week, with the opposition party that dominated the country for most of the past century poised for a comeback after the ruling conservatives failed to provide strong growth or halt a brutal drugs war.

Twelve years after the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) lost power, polls show its candidate, Enrique Pena Nieto,
heading into the vote on Sunday with a double-digit lead over his opponents, despite lingering doubts about the party.

On July 02 2012 05:34 DeepElemBlues wrote:


From what I've read the average cost per day for prison and outpatient drug rehab is about the same, about 80 dollars.

Any more intensive kind of drug rehab though and the cost balloons, up to 500 dollars a day for a 28-day inpatient rehab, just the counseling part. Even more for a detoxification program because of all the medications that need to be used. No thanks.

(In the US don't know about other countries)

On November 19 2011 00:41 Krikkitone wrote:


Well the answers are basically
Mexico benefit? probably (see below)
Cartels decrease? Yes, not eliminated but you would remove some of their income stream.
Dent in drug industry? No drug industry would almost certainly grow
All countries filled with stoners? No but there would probably be more stoners

Basic pros/cons of legalizing something (reverse for illegalizing)

Pros
-Tax revenue (something becomes part of the measured GNP)
-Less funding for criminals
-Less money needed for enforcement/jailing

Cons
-More access to a substance that can potentially cause people to damage themselves or others

Something like marijuana, which can be produced easily inside the US, would only need US legalization to deprive cartels of their profit from it. A drug like cocaine that is produced in other countries, even if it was made legal in the US, might still give cartels power over its distribution if it is illegal to produce/transport it in those countries.

Drug money has a way of sprawling. And some of it may have reached Bank of America.

A federal probe into Los Zetas, a Mexican drug cartel, claims that the group has been laundering money through accounts at BofA, according to a recent report in The Wall Street Journal.

An FBI affidavit filed in Texas last month says that the Mexican drug cartel has been reportedly funneling cash through a Texas-based racehorse business with BofA accounts. The U.S. government has described Los Zetas in the past as "the most technologically advanced, sophisticated and dangerous cartel operating in Mexico." Tremor Enterprises LLC, the horse business, was for its part allegedly run by Jose Trevino Morales, a U.S. citizen with two brothers in Los Zetas.

In the past, Mexican drug syndicates have allegedly used BofA accounts to buy planes to transport cocaine, according to Bloomberg. Between 2004 and 2007, the bank was also the alleged destination for almost $10 million in illicit funds from an influential political family in Equatorial Guinea.

BofA has admitted such errors in the past. In 2006, officials acknowledged they'd failed to catch South American clients laundering $3 billion through one of its Manhattan branches, according to The New York Times.

Just to be clear, BofA hasn't been accused of any wrongdoing, and according to sources cited by the WSJ, the bank is cooperating with the FBI investigation.

he Monterrey newspaper El Norte, owned by the national chain Reforma, was attacked on July 29 for the third time in three weeks. In the latest incident, three armed men wearing ski masks arrived in the late afternoon, sprayed gasoline around the office, set it on fire, and fled. The police arrived seconds after the attackers left, but neglected to pursue them. No one was hurt.

A day later, five men attacked a printing press and print media distributor, owned by the company Dipsa. As with the attack on El Norte, the group overpowered the staff, drenched the building with gasoline, and took off after setting it alight. Dispa is the only local magazine and newspaper distributor, making it vital to local publications.

The previous pair of attacks on El Norte occurred a couple of hours apart on July 10, at two different newspaper offices. In each, a group of gunmen targeted the building with assault rifles and grenades. With the most recent incidents, El Norte has now been attacked six times in the past two years.

That time period coincides with a furious battle for dominance in Mexico’s northeast between erstwhile allies the Gulf Cartel and the Zetas. As a result of the split, violence has spiked in Nuevo Leon (where Monterrey is located), Tamaulipas, and Veracruz, among other states. In Nuevo Leon, the number of homicides jumped from 267 in 2009, the year prior to the Gulf-Zetas split, to 2,003 last year, a more than seven-fold rise in just two years. (Interestingly, however, the number of murders in Nuevo Leon this June was half the May total, and scores lower than any other month this year. The July totals have not been released, so it’s not possible to tell whether it was an anomaly or a countervailing trend.) The story is similar in many other areas of northeastern Mexico.