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SySLeif
Profile Joined July 2011
United States123 Posts
February 21 2012 17:02 GMT
#721
On March 20 2010 05:44 gmonty wrote:
Is the general media black out in Mexico (at least, that is how I perceive it) a deliberate attempt at calming the population, or just to evade showing the failures of government measures to curb cartel influence in the country? Woah, this turned out to be a long one.


I don't know about Mexico, but we (my family) don't vacation to Mexico anymore. I hear on the news all the time about American's being kidnapped or people in general dying in Mexico. It's sort of like a broken record now. Real sad, but it has to be done because the Mexican people deserve a better life. The only sad thing in my perspective is that there are a ton of government officials there that are corrupt, and that doesn't help the cause move forward at all.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 20 2012 01:02 GMT
#722
Twelve Mexican police have died in a mountain highway ambush hours after the severed heads of 10 people were dumped in a small town in a key illegal drug growing region.

Gunmen opened fire on Sunday evening on a police convoy, killing 12 officers and wounding 11 more, said Arturo Martinez, spokesman for the Guerrero state government said on Monday.

The ambush took place on a rural highway near the town of Teloloapan, located in southern Mexico between the beach resort of Acapulco and Mexico City.

Earlier Sunday, the severed heads of 10 people were lined along a street outside a slaughterhouse in the center of Teloloapan.

The region has been long used by drug gangs to grow marijuana. Surrounding Guerrero state has seen a spike in violence since last year as several major gangs battle over trafficking routes.

The La Familia cartel and its offshoot, Los Caballeros Templarios (The Knights Templar), are among the gangs fighting for territory in the region. The heads had been left with a message threatening the La Familia gang, local media reported.

More than 50,000 people, including more than 2,500 police and soldiers, have died in drug-related violence since President Felipe Calderon launched an army-led crackdown on the cartels after taking office five years ago.


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BioNova
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States598 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 14:51:35
April 13 2012 15:13 GMT
#723
Talk about stirring the pot... there are so many controversial parts to this video. I remember the stink of the Van Halen baby smoking on the album art, this goes way way further. What do you guys think, I'm a lil boggled.



It's all child actors playing the parts of criminal and victims. Gonna raise some stink for sure.

Edit: Little Girls Message: "If this is the future that awaits me, I don't want it. Enough of working for your political parties instead of for us. Enough of cosmetic changes."
I used to like trumpets, now I prefer pause. "Don't move a muscle JP!"
Heouf
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands787 Posts
April 13 2012 15:16 GMT
#724
It is impossible for mexico to get rid of those people.
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MZR
Profile Joined February 2012
United States41 Posts
April 13 2012 17:40 GMT
#725
Tough video. Say whatever about kids smoking, and waving around knives and guns. It seems 'realistic,' to the point of uncomfortable - hence the title Uncomfortable Children.
In Mexico they say, "Kids and drunks always tell the truth." The video won't make a difference, but it'll sure get attention...
They carry news that must get through, to build the dream for me and you. They choose the path where no one goes. They choose no quarter.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 21 2012 22:29 GMT
#726
A retired general who was convicted and later cleared of aiding one of Mexico's most powerful drug lords has been shot and killed in Mexico City, authorities have said.

Former Brigadier General Mario Arturo Acosta Chaparro was attacked while at a car repair garage in the Anahuac neighbourhood and died at a hospital on Friday, Mexico City Attorney General Jesus Rodriguez Almeida said.

Witnesses told police that Acosta had just arrived at the garage to drop off a car when a lone gunman approached him and shot him three times in the head, Rodriguez said.

The assailant used a 9mm handgun and got away on a waiting motorcycle driven by an accomplice, the attorney general said.

The former soldier had survived a 2010 attack in the Mexico City neighbourhood of La Roma where gunmen shot him in the abdomen.

Acosta was incarcerated in 2000 on charges of protecting Amado Carillo Fuentes, a leader of the Juarez drug cartel who had died three years earlier after botched plastic surgery.

But in 2007 a panel of judges overturned Acosta's drug-trafficking conviction and ordered him released, ruling that prosecutors failed to prove the alleged links to Carillo Fuentes.

In 2002, Acosta was accused of homicide in the disappearance of leftist activists and revolutionaries during the government's "dirty war" against dissent during the 1970s and 1980s.

A judge determined Acosta was not responsible for the disappearances and the charges were dismissed.


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Geosensation
Profile Joined March 2011
United States256 Posts
April 21 2012 22:44 GMT
#727
Traveling to Cuernavaca this summer with my girlfriend to stay at her house. Hoping for a safe trip but can't help feeling a little worried. Pretty sure Cuernavaca is very safe, besides the killing of a drug lord there a few years ago and then hanging some of his family from an overpass. :-/ Needless to say we won't be going out very much (maybe one night to the safest place in town), luckily her house is very nice and we can host all of her friends the entire time.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 27 2012 02:40 GMT
#728
WASHINGTON (AP) — The government said Thursday that 68,000 guns recovered by Mexican authorities in the past five years have been traced back to the United States.

The flood of tens of thousands of weapons underscores complaints from Mexico that the U.S. is responsible for arming the drug cartels plaguing its southern neighbor. Six years of violence between warring cartels have killed more than 47,000 people in Mexico.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives released its latest data covering 2007 through 2011. According to ATF, many of the guns seized in Mexico and submitted to ATF for tracing were recovered at the scenes of cartel shootings while others were seized in raids on illegal arms caches. All the recovered weapons were suspected of being used in crimes in Mexico.

At an April 2 North American summit in Washington, Mexican President Felipe Calderon said the U.S. government has not done enough to stop the flow of assault weapons and other guns from the U.S. to Mexico.


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tokicheese
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada739 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 03:52:11
April 27 2012 03:45 GMT
#729
On February 10 2012 22:45 DarkShadowz wrote:
Legalizing drugs is not a good idea. There is a very good reason for them to be illegal in the first place. But maybe you pro legalization thinks that opium for example had a positive effect on China.

I have worked for an organization that informs kids about the dangers of drugs. I have seen plenty of people ruining their lives and their loved ones because of drugs. You are NOT yourself when you take them. You might find it fun and dandy in the beginning but eventually they will start taking over your life. That is a fact. Either you get out in time or you will get fucked over.

To everyone taking drugs here. YOU are responsible for the murder of thousands of people, and the suffering of millions wich is the consequense of the drug cartells hindering the development of countries. Not to mention the enviromental problems they cause. You can't hide from that fact, saying it's bad won't stop any of that. It's like shooting people with a gun and complaining that they should ban weapons because they are bad. If you live in a democracy and want drugs to be legal the way you go about it is to try and start an opinion about it, you don't take drugs as a protest. That's bad for the democracy, but maybe you don't belive in that system what do I know.

Drugs are mainly produced in weak countries. Like afghanistan produced like 80% of the worlds opium. People in central and south america produce cocaine because they can't survive if they don't. The situation isn't easy but making it legal would bring so much suffering long term I would never support it. I know I'm a bit aggressive when it comes to drugs but I have seen and talked with drug addicts, and that certainly isn't fun.

How am I responsible that a drug is illegal? The only reason people die because of this is because it is fucking illegal... If getting at oil was illegal people would sure as shit kill each other for it....

It's actually a better example than I thought at first lol. Addicts NEED their fix or else they go through tremendous pain and suffering so ofc the product will be expensive and people will fight over it. People NEED oil so ofc its expensive if they couldn't get it legally they would find someone who could... I forget the exact amount but the slight majority of the cost of drugs is from the cost of shipping it because it is so hard to do. This just makes the addicts turn to crime instead of seeking help or holding down a job imo.

Do you really think an addict in the slums who can't survive with out his heroin/crack/meth would rather go to a pharmacy and get it knowing what he is getting or would they rather go to some sketchy dealer who could rob them or kill them or could cause on OD by changing his product or cut it with glass or some other shit I can't think of?

A shit load of People who used to be at fairly high levels of power High Ranking DEA officials (he happened to be the one to lock up Marc Emery btw), tons of mayors in BC, tons of high level Police in BC have all created a pro pot legalization group. Sadly they are all out of office now IIRC.

All the drug laws do is make a university student who works full time pays his taxes and lives a fairly well adjusted life a criminal because he occupationally smokes pot. Pissing away shit loads of money chasing me instead of going after the real sick fucks out there... I really don't get it our economy is hurting and yet we turn our backs on a huge cash cow. I mean Pot is the biggest plant money earner in California...


All of these deaths on Mexico and countless other places are a direct result of the War on Drugs which has been a massive failure costing trillions and Drug use rates increased since the 1970's. It's a medical problem not a criminal one.

I just realized how much of a necro that was my apologies the subject just gets me really worked up :/.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 29 2012 06:06 GMT
#730
VERACRUZ, Mexico — Authorities in the Mexican state of Veracruz say the body of a journalist with the national newsmagazine Proceso has been found dead inside her home.

The Veracruz Attorney General's Office has released a statement saying Regina Martinez's body was found in the bathroom of her house in Xalapa, Veracruz, and that authorities believe she was murdered.

The statement said that the journalist's body showed signs of "blows to the head and body" and initial evidence suggested she died of asphyxiation.

Martinez was the Xalapa correspondent for Proceso, one of Mexico's oldest and most respected investigative newsmagazines, and often covered drug trafficking in her stories.


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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 05 2012 00:35 GMT
#731
A total of 23 bodies have been found hanging from a bridge or dismembered in ice boxes and garbage bags in northeastern Mexico, in an escalation of brutal violence involving rival drug gangs on the US border.

Bodies of five men and four women were found on Friday hanging from a bridge in Nuevo Laredo, in Tamaulipas state just across the border from the Texas city of Laredo.

Police could not confirm who was responsible for the murders but a message seen with the bodies indicated it may have been an attack by the Zetas cartel against the rival Gulf cartel.

Hours later, police found the dismembered corpses of 14 people in garbage bags and ice boxes dumped near the police station of Nuevo Laredo, police investigators said.

They said the second massacre could have been an act of revenge for the earlier killings.


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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 13 2012 21:26 GMT
#732
Mexican authorities have found the dismembered bodies of at least 49 people stuffed into bags and dumped on a highway near the northern industrial city of Monterrey in what appeared to be part of a string of brutal drug gang killings, local media reported.

The bodies were found in the early hours of Sunday, sparking a large deployment of local, state and military officials to the scene, daily Excelsior reported on its website.

"We are still in the process of counting the bodies, but there are at least 37 that we have tallied so far," a spokesperson for the state of Nuevo Leon, the home state of Monterrey, told the AFP news agency.

The bodies were found on an isolated stretch of the highway 180km from the US border.

The report follows a string of atrocities, including 18 people who were found decapitated and dismembered near Mexico's second-largest city, Guadalajara, on Wednesday.

Just a few days earlier, there were 23 killings in the city of Nuevo Laredo, in Tamaulipas state which borders the United States, comprising nine people found hanging from a bridge and 14 others that had been decapitated.


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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 21:32:14
May 13 2012 21:29 GMT
#733
Damnit always get sniped by stealthblue lol
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 17 2012 00:23 GMT
#734
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Mexico's former deputy defense minister and a top army general are being questioned for suspected links to organized crime.

Mexican soldiers on Tuesday detained retired general Tomas Angeles Dauahare and general Roberto Dawe Gonzalez and turned them over to the country's organized crime unit, military and government officials said.

This is the highest-level scandal to hit the military in the five-year-old drug war initiated by President Felipe Calderon.

More than 50,000 people have died in drug-related violence since then.

Angeles was assistant defence minister from 2006-2008 and helped lead the government's crackdown on drug cartels after soldiers were deployed to the streets in late 2006.

Gonzalez, still an active duty general, led an elite army unit in the western state of Colima and local media said he previously held posts in the violent states of Sinaloa and Chihuahua.

An official at the attorney general's office, said the generals would be held for several days to give testimony and then could be called in front of a judge.


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Goozen
Profile Joined February 2012
Israel701 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 00:55:12
May 17 2012 00:29 GMT
#735
What alot of people who do drugs in the US and Canada do not realize is that many of them are actively funding these groups every time they buy drugs, even weed. i do not want this to cause the whole legalize and then it will stop thing as its not relevant to this topic, its just something all these "peace and love" types should keep in mind. And not just Mexican cartels who get money from drugs even bigger terror groups like Al qaeda and Hezbollah get funding this way.
Warillions
Profile Joined November 2010
United States215 Posts
May 17 2012 00:44 GMT
#736
On May 17 2012 09:29 Goozen wrote:
What alot of people who do drugs in the US and Canada do not realize is they are actively funding these groups every time they buy drugs, even weed. i do not want this to cause the whole legalize and then it will stop thing as its not relevant to this topic, its just something all these "peace and love" types should keep in mind. And not just Mexican cartels who get money from drugs even bigger terror groups like Al qaeda and Hezbollah get funding this way.


stop talking out your ass. i buy weed from a friend that grows it. how does that contribute to mexico's problem at all? your blaming weed for the problems. and its not the weed, its the fact that its illegal. make tobacco illegal and watch the drug cartels get rich from it. you narrow minded twit


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Goozen
Profile Joined February 2012
Israel701 Posts
May 17 2012 00:54 GMT
#737
On May 17 2012 09:44 Warillions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 09:29 Goozen wrote:
What alot of people who do drugs in the US and Canada do not realize is they are actively funding these groups every time they buy drugs, even weed. i do not want this to cause the whole legalize and then it will stop thing as its not relevant to this topic, its just something all these "peace and love" types should keep in mind. And not just Mexican cartels who get money from drugs even bigger terror groups like Al qaeda and Hezbollah get funding this way.


stop talking out your ass. i buy weed from a friend that grows it. how does that contribute to mexico's problem at all? your blaming weed for the problems. and its not the weed, its the fact that its illegal. make tobacco illegal and watch the drug cartels get rich from it. you narrow minded twit

Did you notice where i said "alot" and not all?
Also the reason im not talking about the legality is because im talking about the status quo. If you didnt know where it came from would you buy it is the question? im fine with people fighting to legalize it, but the question is in the interim do they do they do drugs? and if so from where?

Ill change the post to make it clear that im not talking about all drug users. but the fact remains that this is their major source of revenue (and not just weed, never did i say only weed. its alot more form harder drugs) so even if you are a "responsible" consumer alot of people are not.
Le BucheRON
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada619 Posts
May 17 2012 01:15 GMT
#738
On May 17 2012 09:54 Goozen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 09:44 Warillions wrote:
On May 17 2012 09:29 Goozen wrote:
What alot of people who do drugs in the US and Canada do not realize is they are actively funding these groups every time they buy drugs, even weed. i do not want this to cause the whole legalize and then it will stop thing as its not relevant to this topic, its just something all these "peace and love" types should keep in mind. And not just Mexican cartels who get money from drugs even bigger terror groups like Al qaeda and Hezbollah get funding this way.


stop talking out your ass. i buy weed from a friend that grows it. how does that contribute to mexico's problem at all? your blaming weed for the problems. and its not the weed, its the fact that its illegal. make tobacco illegal and watch the drug cartels get rich from it. you narrow minded twit

Did you notice where i said "alot" and not all?
Also the reason im not talking about the legality is because im talking about the status quo. If you didnt know where it came from would you buy it is the question? im fine with people fighting to legalize it, but the question is in the interim do they do they do drugs? and if so from where?

Ill change the post to make it clear that im not talking about all drug users. but the fact remains that this is their major source of revenue (and not just weed, never did i say only weed. its alot more form harder drugs) so even if you are a "responsible" consumer alot of people are not.

Drug users aren't "responsible"? Go figure, I always thought that the women in my town that are abandoning their kids to drink and get wasted were doing it out of love.
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CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
May 17 2012 01:19 GMT
#739
On May 17 2012 09:29 Goozen wrote:
What alot of people who do drugs in the US and Canada do not realize is that...


Change "do not realize" with "couldn't care less".

It's just human nature, the vast majority of people don't care about anything or anyone that doesn't affect their innmediate lives. Who cares about the lives of tens of thousands of innocents?, getting high is far, far more important to most users.
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BandonBanshee
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada437 Posts
May 17 2012 01:47 GMT
#740
On May 17 2012 09:54 Goozen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 09:44 Warillions wrote:
On May 17 2012 09:29 Goozen wrote:
What alot of people who do drugs in the US and Canada do not realize is they are actively funding these groups every time they buy drugs, even weed. i do not want this to cause the whole legalize and then it will stop thing as its not relevant to this topic, its just something all these "peace and love" types should keep in mind. And not just Mexican cartels who get money from drugs even bigger terror groups like Al qaeda and Hezbollah get funding this way.


stop talking out your ass. i buy weed from a friend that grows it. how does that contribute to mexico's problem at all? your blaming weed for the problems. and its not the weed, its the fact that its illegal. make tobacco illegal and watch the drug cartels get rich from it. you narrow minded twit

Did you notice where i said "alot" and not all?
Also the reason im not talking about the legality is because im talking about the status quo. If you didnt know where it came from would you buy it is the question? im fine with people fighting to legalize it, but the question is in the interim do they do they do drugs? and if so from where?

Ill change the post to make it clear that im not talking about all drug users. but the fact remains that this is their major source of revenue (and not just weed, never did i say only weed. its alot more form harder drugs) so even if you are a "responsible" consumer alot of people are not.

Ya honestly I was suprised by the amount of weed that comes from the cartels ( I guess its stupid of me looking back ). I know a couple of guys who grow it here and I always just assumed it was the "hippie" type that was bringing it to us. This thread was enlightening as someone who uses cannabis and has been to mexico more then any other country. Left me with something to think about that's for sure.
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