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ZZangDreamjOy
Canada959 Posts
On March 08 2010 12:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote: people hate avatar because it's so popular and they get a kick out of "sitting on a high horse" and being "unique" It's a decent movie, but it lacks the it factor that is required to win. I'm betting on either Hurt Locker, Inglourious Basterds, or Up. | ||
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LightRailCoyote
United States982 Posts
On March 08 2010 12:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote: people hate avatar because it's so popular and they get a kick out of "sitting on a high horse" and being "unique" No, they don't like it because their opinion differs from yours. I saw it, thought it was meh, then I liked it less when people gushed on and on about it. It's like a stupid girl with a hot body. Good to hit on occasion but never a font of inspiration afterwards. | ||
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SoLaR[i.C]
United States2969 Posts
On March 08 2010 12:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote: people hate avatar because it's so popular and they get a kick out of "sitting on a high horse" and being "unique" You do realize how terribly corny and cliche Avatar was right? That why I hate it. | ||
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
On March 08 2010 12:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote: people hate avatar because it's so popular and they get a kick out of "sitting on a high horse" and being "unique" No, they tend to dislike it for all the reasons mentioned in this thread. I despise it when people say that others disagree with them for some stupid reason, instead of rebutting the other person's arguments. Saying x likes y because of conformity, or nonconformity, or racism, or political correctness, or whatever is bullshit without evidence. Either rebut what people have said or don't make simplistic and incorrect comments. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On March 08 2010 12:06 LightRailCoyote wrote: No, they don't like it because their opinion differs from yours. I saw it, thought it was meh, then I liked it less when people gushed on and on about it. It's like a stupid girl with a hot body. Good to hit on occasion but never a font of inspiration afterwards. fair enough. people tend to consider their opinion more than what it actually is all too often in this situation, which is just an opinion. No, they tend to dislike it for all the reasons mentioned in this thread. I despise it when people say that others disagree with them for some stupid reason, instead of rebutting the other person's arguments. Saying x likes y because of conformity, or nonconformity, or racism, or political correctness, or whatever is bullshit without evidence. Either rebut what people have said or don't make simplistic and incorrect comments. you might want to consider the fact that an argument doesn't need to be rebutted if it has no support before you go as far as despising people for rebutting said arguments take the recent post as an example: "You do realize how terribly corny and cliche Avatar was right? That why I hate it." sure that's an argument, but there's no reason I should be worried about rebutting that because it's a terrible argument without any support | ||
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hyomin godtier
Canada367 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Worst Picture of 2009: Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen (Aka Trannies, Too) (DREAMWORKS/PARAMOUNT) Worst Actress of 2009: Sandra Bullock All About Steve Worst Actor(s) of 2009: All Three Jonas Brothers Jonas Brothers: The 3-D Concert Experience Worst Screen Couple: Sandra Bullock & Bradley Cooper All About Steve Worst Supporting Actress: Sienna Miller G.I. JOE: THE RISE OF COBRA Worst Supporting Actor: Billy Ray Cyrus HANNAH MONTANA: THE MOVIE Worst Prequel, Remake, Rip-off or Sequel (Combined Category for 2009): Land of The Lost (Universal PIctures) Worst Director: Michael Bay TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN (aka TRANNIES, TOO) Worst Screenplay: Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen Written by Ehren Kruger & Roberto Orci & Alex Kurtzman, Based on Hasbro’s Transformers Action Figures | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
"if this doesn't win, people should die." It wins, and suddenly I realize sometimes judges are right. | ||
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duckett
United States589 Posts
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
On March 08 2010 12:17 GGTeMpLaR wrote: fair enough. people tend to consider their opinion more than what it actually is all too often in this situation, which is just an opinion. you might want to consider the fact that an argument doesn't need to be rebutted if it has no support before you go as far as despising people for rebutting said arguments take the recent post as an example: "You do realize how terribly corny and cliche Avatar was right? That why I hate it." sure that's an argument, but there's no reason I should be worried about rebutting that because it's a terrible argument without any support What? Let's replay: People: I dislike Avatar because of XYZ reason You: No, you dislike avatar because of reazon Q: "because it's so popular and they get a kick out of "sitting on a high horse" and being "unique"" In this situation, presumably I know better than you why I was not a fan of the movie. Similarly, everyone else who posted likely knows better than you did why they were not a fan of the movie. You were the one who originally made the claim about why I think what I think. You must support that claim against my evidence that I know who I am and you have never met me. Therefore, you must either show that you know me better than I know myself, or that my stated reason for belief is so illogical that I must have a different underlying one. I do not need to defend my claim: "avatar was a movie with cliche plot and characters" against your claim "Avatar is the shizzle". Neither of us has evidence. However, you made a claim with no evidence against my claim with evidence with an argument that amounted to saying that I don't know what I think and you do. Therefore, you need to either defend your claim or it falls. If neither of us defends our initial claims (which are subjective anyway), they'll just coexist. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On March 08 2010 12:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote: sure that's an argument, but there's no reason I should be worried about rebutting that because it's a terrible argument without any support much like: people hate avatar because it's so popular and they get a kick out of "sitting on a high horse" and being "unique" | ||
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DatTheMighty
Vietnam122 Posts
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On March 08 2010 12:40 triangle wrote: What? Let's replay: People: I dislike Avatar because of XYZ reason You: No, you dislike avatar because of reazon Q: "because it's so popular and they get a kick out of "sitting on a high horse" and being "unique"" In this situation, presumably I know better than you why I was not a fan of the movie. Similarly, everyone else who posted likely knows better than you did why they were not a fan of the movie. You were the one who originally made the claim about why I think what I think. You must support that claim against my evidence that I know who I am and you have never met me. Therefore, you must either show that you know me better than I know myself, or that my stated reason for belief is so illogical that I must have a different underlying one. I do not need to defend my claim: "avatar was a movie with cliche plot and characters" against your claim "Avatar is the shizzle". Neither of us has evidence. However, you made a claim with no evidence against my claim with evidence with an argument that amounted to saying that I don't know what I think and you do. Let's replay: People: x claim because of y reason Me: no, z claim because of b reason You may know better but you offer no support, just criticism. Same may be said for anyone who has simply criticized without support. I guess I'm guilty of making claims without support too, which could qualify me as a hypocrite, but I am mostly making such claims without support to "get back at" and show how absurd it is to just criticize without offering support and expect to be taken seriously. I don't have to prove your belief is illogical if you don't prove it is logical in the first place, burden of proof goes both ways. To believe otherwise is an appeal to ignorance fallacy. I'm not saying you have to defend that given claim against my given claim, I'm actually saying I don't have to give evidence for why a claim is wrong if it has no evidence for why it is right (which means you and I actually agree so this argument is pointless). My claim held as much evidence as your claim and most claims simply criticizing or praising the movie without support, so I don't understand why you're specifically calling out my argument for lacking support out of the dozens of arguments made. | ||
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Julmust
Sweden4867 Posts
On March 08 2010 12:46 DatTheMighty wrote: anyone streamings this? christopher walts just won best supporting actor btw. =D all inglorious basterds fans *highfive. ehm I think you're quite a bit behind the rest of us. wasnt that like the first award given out? | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
yes, it's a terrible argument, as terrible as the arguments in this thread that are criticizing it. are you going to call them out on being terrible arguments as well? | ||
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Julmust
Sweden4867 Posts
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
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TheMusiC
United States1054 Posts
fantastic score | ||
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Julmust
Sweden4867 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On March 08 2010 12:50 Julmust wrote: ok seriously guys, can't you just shut up, accept the fact that not everyone has the same taste (and want to masturbate to blue things with a tail). can't we discuss the REST of the awards? Yes we can. Cinema is dead when an actress who starred in Phat Girlz can win an Oscar then in the acceptance speech bash the media etc. | ||
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
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