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On May 12 2010 01:26 Krikkitone wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2010 21:58 Not_A_Notion wrote:On May 11 2010 21:40 WAAA wrote:On May 11 2010 20:52 KwarK wrote:On April 29 2010 09:02 tru_power22 wrote:On March 01 2010 15 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 01 2010 15 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:27 n.DieJokes wrote:
I honestly have nothing to add or confirm or deny. I almost wish we would go back to the gold standard so at least I would have some idea what's going on.
Yeah, at least that system made sense. I can't tell if this is a joke post or if you're seriously suggesting the logical means of barter is by using a useless metal of changing value as an intermediary. Can't tell if you are serious either, after reading again Ima go with no.. but anyway gold isnt useless.. it has very important qualitys and is used in many ways (electronics, glass, jewlery etc). Theres a reason why it is so valuable (hint: not because its shiny). Given gold's strong negative correlation with the Dollar (relative to other metals) and it's tendency to increase in times of market turmoil (it has increase markedly in the last two years and is near all time highs), one would have to conclude that it is not golds usefulness that is driving its value but rather its history as the root of most western specie. Unless you can find a link between its fundamental usefulness and these market shifts. At any rate this would serve as a further argument for not having it as a monetary base as you would be diverting resources away from their best uses and into vaults. The advantage of gold is 1. It Doesn't have much fundamental usefulness that varies in value significantly (just like paper money) 2. It can't be easily produced (unlike paper money) #1 is what makes it a form of money rather than just a barter (ie gold is really only good for trading for something useful #2 is what makes it a (relatively) stable form of currency [it does get produced but no single group can really control how much gets produced... that depends on where gold mines happen to be]
Sticking to the gold standard has nearly ruined the world economy multiple times in the past, it is not a great way in which to base an economy. Sure it is desirable, but the general lack of supply means that one is unable to manipulate the supply of money in the economy when on the gold standard. Thus, rather than being able to use economics to help stabilize interest rates and economic downturns, one is stuck with a limited supply on which to rely.
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The Euro is done now that Greece just received an American style bailout. Greece will never be able to pay it back and German citizens just got boned. The dollar is probably in a worse state though.
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yeah greece is just fail. first they lie so much to the european nations to belong to them (probably to get help in their problems with turkey and the xtra money) then they are wasting it like they used to. now crying for help aah please Germany you have to help us... we just lived soo good thx to ur money now we dont have any anymore... n33d more plx or eu dies
ofc continuing buying weapons to defend their retarded zyphern island vs turkey.
np we ll help u greecs anytime.
(iam german, german pov)
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On May 12 2010 04:06 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2010 01:26 Krikkitone wrote:On May 11 2010 21:58 Not_A_Notion wrote:On May 11 2010 21:40 WAAA wrote:On May 11 2010 20:52 KwarK wrote:On April 29 2010 09:02 tru_power22 wrote:On March 01 2010 15 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 01 2010 15 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:27 n.DieJokes wrote:
I honestly have nothing to add or confirm or deny. I almost wish we would go back to the gold standard so at least I would have some idea what's going on.
Yeah, at least that system made sense. I can't tell if this is a joke post or if you're seriously suggesting the logical means of barter is by using a useless metal of changing value as an intermediary. Can't tell if you are serious either, after reading again Ima go with no.. but anyway gold isnt useless.. it has very important qualitys and is used in many ways (electronics, glass, jewlery etc). Theres a reason why it is so valuable (hint: not because its shiny). Given gold's strong negative correlation with the Dollar (relative to other metals) and it's tendency to increase in times of market turmoil (it has increase markedly in the last two years and is near all time highs), one would have to conclude that it is not golds usefulness that is driving its value but rather its history as the root of most western specie. Unless you can find a link between its fundamental usefulness and these market shifts. At any rate this would serve as a further argument for not having it as a monetary base as you would be diverting resources away from their best uses and into vaults. The advantage of gold is 1. It Doesn't have much fundamental usefulness that varies in value significantly (just like paper money) 2. It can't be easily produced (unlike paper money) #1 is what makes it a form of money rather than just a barter (ie gold is really only good for trading for something useful #2 is what makes it a (relatively) stable form of currency [it does get produced but no single group can really control how much gets produced... that depends on where gold mines happen to be] Sticking to the gold standard has nearly ruined the world economy multiple times in the past, it is not a great way in which to base an economy. Sure it is desirable, but the general lack of supply means that one is unable to manipulate the supply of money in the economy when on the gold standard. Thus, rather than being able to use economics to help stabilize interest rates and economic downturns, one is stuck with a limited supply on which to rely.
The Advantage is the lack of ability for it to be manipulated
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On May 13 2010 02:31 Krikkitone wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2010 04:06 Two_DoWn wrote:On May 12 2010 01:26 Krikkitone wrote:On May 11 2010 21:58 Not_A_Notion wrote:On May 11 2010 21:40 WAAA wrote:On May 11 2010 20:52 KwarK wrote:On April 29 2010 09:02 tru_power22 wrote:On March 01 2010 15 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 01 2010 15 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:27 n.DieJokes wrote:
I honestly have nothing to add or confirm or deny. I almost wish we would go back to the gold standard so at least I would have some idea what's going on.
Yeah, at least that system made sense. I can't tell if this is a joke post or if you're seriously suggesting the logical means of barter is by using a useless metal of changing value as an intermediary. Can't tell if you are serious either, after reading again Ima go with no.. but anyway gold isnt useless.. it has very important qualitys and is used in many ways (electronics, glass, jewlery etc). Theres a reason why it is so valuable (hint: not because its shiny). Given gold's strong negative correlation with the Dollar (relative to other metals) and it's tendency to increase in times of market turmoil (it has increase markedly in the last two years and is near all time highs), one would have to conclude that it is not golds usefulness that is driving its value but rather its history as the root of most western specie. Unless you can find a link between its fundamental usefulness and these market shifts. At any rate this would serve as a further argument for not having it as a monetary base as you would be diverting resources away from their best uses and into vaults. The advantage of gold is 1. It Doesn't have much fundamental usefulness that varies in value significantly (just like paper money) 2. It can't be easily produced (unlike paper money) #1 is what makes it a form of money rather than just a barter (ie gold is really only good for trading for something useful #2 is what makes it a (relatively) stable form of currency [it does get produced but no single group can really control how much gets produced... that depends on where gold mines happen to be] Sticking to the gold standard has nearly ruined the world economy multiple times in the past, it is not a great way in which to base an economy. Sure it is desirable, but the general lack of supply means that one is unable to manipulate the supply of money in the economy when on the gold standard. Thus, rather than being able to use economics to help stabilize interest rates and economic downturns, one is stuck with a limited supply on which to rely. The Advantage is the lack of ability for it to be manipulated
The ability to manipulate a currency is a double-edged sword. If done wisely, currency manipulation (through monetary policy) is a very powerful tool that nations can use to stabilize their economies and avoid the radical and violent economic fluctuations that were common before the world detatched itself from the gold standard. On the other hand, if you have a bunch of irresponsible poo-flinging monkeys in charge (like the current US government), the ability to manipulate currency can be a great evil.
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On May 12 2010 04:37 oN_Silva wrote:
yeah greece is just fail. first they lie so much to the european nations to belong to them (probably to get help in their problems with turkey and the xtra money) then they are wasting it like they used to. now crying for help aah please Germany you have to help us... we just lived soo good thx to ur money now we dont have any anymore... n33d more plx or eu dies
ofc continuing buying weapons to defend their retarded zyphern island vs turkey.
np we ll help u greecs anytime.
(iam german, german pov)
what on earth are you talking about?Do you have anything to contribute to this discussion?
Because your childish analysis sucks!
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On May 12 2010 04:37 oN_Silva wrote:
yeah greece is just fail. first they lie so much to the european nations to belong to them (probably to get help in their problems with turkey and the xtra money) then they are wasting it like they used to. now crying for help aah please Germany you have to help us... we just lived soo good thx to ur money now we dont have any anymore... n33d more plx or eu dies
ofc continuing buying weapons to defend their retarded zyphern island vs turkey.
np we ll help u greecs anytime.
(iam german, german pov)
German banks would also get buttsexed if the eurozone doesn't bail out Greece. So if you don't bail out greece you'd end up bailing out your banks by yourself, plus you screw up the currency that allows for your export based economy.
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On May 12 2010 04:06 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2010 01:26 Krikkitone wrote:On May 11 2010 21:58 Not_A_Notion wrote:On May 11 2010 21:40 WAAA wrote:On May 11 2010 20:52 KwarK wrote:On April 29 2010 09:02 tru_power22 wrote:On March 01 2010 15 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 01 2010 15 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:27 n.DieJokes wrote:
I honestly have nothing to add or confirm or deny. I almost wish we would go back to the gold standard so at least I would have some idea what's going on.
Yeah, at least that system made sense. I can't tell if this is a joke post or if you're seriously suggesting the logical means of barter is by using a useless metal of changing value as an intermediary. Can't tell if you are serious either, after reading again Ima go with no.. but anyway gold isnt useless.. it has very important qualitys and is used in many ways (electronics, glass, jewlery etc). Theres a reason why it is so valuable (hint: not because its shiny). Given gold's strong negative correlation with the Dollar (relative to other metals) and it's tendency to increase in times of market turmoil (it has increase markedly in the last two years and is near all time highs), one would have to conclude that it is not golds usefulness that is driving its value but rather its history as the root of most western specie. Unless you can find a link between its fundamental usefulness and these market shifts. At any rate this would serve as a further argument for not having it as a monetary base as you would be diverting resources away from their best uses and into vaults. The advantage of gold is 1. It Doesn't have much fundamental usefulness that varies in value significantly (just like paper money) 2. It can't be easily produced (unlike paper money) #1 is what makes it a form of money rather than just a barter (ie gold is really only good for trading for something useful #2 is what makes it a (relatively) stable form of currency [it does get produced but no single group can really control how much gets produced... that depends on where gold mines happen to be] Sticking to the gold standard has nearly ruined the world economy multiple times in the past, it is not a great way in which to base an economy. Sure it is desirable, but the general lack of supply means that one is unable to manipulate the supply of money in the economy when on the gold standard. Thus, rather than being able to use economics to help stabilize interest rates and economic downturns, one is stuck with a limited supply on which to rely.
I think the modern idea is a commodity standard based on a basket of several goods (perhaps including gold), not any single one. There are good arguments to be made for a "commodity standard."
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On May 13 2010 03:35 nothingbutzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2010 04:37 oN_Silva wrote:
yeah greece is just fail. first they lie so much to the european nations to belong to them (probably to get help in their problems with turkey and the xtra money) then they are wasting it like they used to. now crying for help aah please Germany you have to help us... we just lived soo good thx to ur money now we dont have any anymore... n33d more plx or eu dies
ofc continuing buying weapons to defend their retarded zyphern island vs turkey.
np we ll help u greecs anytime.
(iam german, german pov) what on earth are you talking about?Do you have anything to contribute to this discussion? Because your childish analysis sucks!
He is right, even if its maybe in the wrong topic. Greeks work only until the age of 55 in Germany we work until 67, you are wasting money that you don't have and want more and the funny thing is you boycott the German industry, because we want proofs that you don't waste the money again and that you are able to solve the problems after 1 time help.
imo they should let die Greece. This Horror should end fast, its better than pumping tons of money into a dead Country just to slow his dead and push it some months or years away. Germany is dead his self. We even don't have the money to repair our streets, but its okay lets give our last money to the Greeks.
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what that guy said was indeed silly, and I am german myself. its just the picture drawn by German main media and politics that makes ppl think that germany actually suffers from EU and greece. everyone knew about Greeks changing of stats and everything, and everyone was fine about it coz we (germans) kept profiting from it all the way long, just for example: the most weapon and army stuff greece bought came from germany. we were also exporting our cheaper stuff into those countries and by that use the EUro zone for our own advantage while hindering the others from actually having the chance of a similar development. whole EU thing is mainly some Germany and a bit france-governed story to bring some power back to those 2 countries, which again want to be as strong as they were 100 years ago.
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So does this bailout only pertain to Greece, what happens if Spain, Italy, Portugal, or Ireland needs money? Is it spread out, or does Germany and France go back to the drawing board?
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On May 13 2010 04:01 AmstAff wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2010 03:35 nothingbutzerg wrote:On May 12 2010 04:37 oN_Silva wrote:
yeah greece is just fail. first they lie so much to the european nations to belong to them (probably to get help in their problems with turkey and the xtra money) then they are wasting it like they used to. now crying for help aah please Germany you have to help us... we just lived soo good thx to ur money now we dont have any anymore... n33d more plx or eu dies
ofc continuing buying weapons to defend their retarded zyphern island vs turkey.
np we ll help u greecs anytime.
(iam german, german pov) what on earth are you talking about?Do you have anything to contribute to this discussion? Because your childish analysis sucks! He is right, even if its maybe in the wrong topic. Greeks work only until the age of 55 in Germany we work until 67, you are wasting money that you don't have and want more and the funny thing is you boycott the German industry, because we want proofs that you don't waste the money again and that you are able to solve the problems after 1 time help. imo they should let die Greece. This Horror should end fast, its better than pumping tons of money into a dead Country just to slow his dead and push it some months or years away. Germany is dead his self. We even don't have the money to repair our streets, but its okay lets give our last money to the Greeks.
For your information Greek people work until 65-67.Pensions given at 55 are to people with specific problems and some women but they receive a small amount of pension.If you don't know about how things work in a country i suggest you ask first.
Greek people boycott german industry?????omg what are you talking about?50% of the cars driven are German,the main constructor of Greece's national roads is owned by Germans,The biggest airport of Athens was build and is in control of German company.Greece is buying German weapons and Panzers and submarines.I could go on with the list but there is no reason.
All you do with your narrow-mind thinking is that Greek people are wasting your (????) money?Well FIY Greece should not have been allowed to enter the EMU(Most Europeans knew that it is a corrupted shitty country) but who wanted of course to take advantage of smaller countries since they had the the strongest currency?Germany and France of course!
You are oversimplifying things to "Bad lazy mediterraneans,we work all day and they take our money,take our jobs and marry our women"
Furthermore Greece took a loan which its biggest part comes from the IMf(which most people here is opppsed to so that means that they don't want your money) so your money,jobs and women are safe.You miss the point that the whole world is fucked up and and you blame Greece for that.What is Germany's or United states' debt do you have a clue?Why these countries don't suffer a financial terrorism?
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Greece sucks that is my opinion ,but other countries should not play victim please!That is at least hypocritical
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The only thing that I find amusing about Greece is that there are a ton of people rioting over losing social benefits that they will not pay for and cannot afford. However, to be fair, the US is going to experience something very similar in the near future.
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China will also be hit hard if the euro falls, It's like, the MAIN currency of the world.
looks like people will go back to the dollar for a while
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On May 13 2010 04:28 nothingbutzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2010 04:01 AmstAff wrote:On May 13 2010 03:35 nothingbutzerg wrote:On May 12 2010 04:37 oN_Silva wrote:
yeah greece is just fail. first they lie so much to the european nations to belong to them (probably to get help in their problems with turkey and the xtra money) then they are wasting it like they used to. now crying for help aah please Germany you have to help us... we just lived soo good thx to ur money now we dont have any anymore... n33d more plx or eu dies
ofc continuing buying weapons to defend their retarded zyphern island vs turkey.
np we ll help u greecs anytime.
(iam german, german pov) what on earth are you talking about?Do you have anything to contribute to this discussion? Because your childish analysis sucks! He is right, even if its maybe in the wrong topic. Greeks work only until the age of 55 in Germany we work until 67, you are wasting money that you don't have and want more and the funny thing is you boycott the German industry, because we want proofs that you don't waste the money again and that you are able to solve the problems after 1 time help. imo they should let die Greece. This Horror should end fast, its better than pumping tons of money into a dead Country just to slow his dead and push it some months or years away. Germany is dead his self. We even don't have the money to repair our streets, but its okay lets give our last money to the Greeks. For your information Greek people work until 65-67.Pensions given at 55 are to people with specific problems and some women but they receive a small amount of pension.If you don't know about how things work in a country i suggest you ask first. Greek people boycott german industry?????omg what are you talking about?50% of the cars driven are German,the main constructor of Greece's national roads is owned by Germans,The biggest airport of Athens was build and is in control of German company.Greece is buying German weapons and Panzers and submarines.I could go on with the list but there is no reason. All you do with your narrow-mind thinking is that Greek people are wasting your (????) money?Well FIY Greece should not have been allowed to enter the EMU(Most Europeans knew that it is a corrupted shitty country) but who wanted of course to take advantage of smaller countries since they had the the strongest currency?Germany and France of course! You are oversimplifying things to "Bad lazy mediterraneans,we work all day and they take our money,take our jobs and marry our women" Furthermore Greece took a loan which its biggest part comes from the IMf(which most people here is opppsed to so that means that they don't want your money) so your money,jobs and women are safe.You miss the point that the whole world is fucked up and and you blame Greece for that.What is Germany's or United states' debt do you have a clue?Why these countries don't suffer a financial terrorism?
http://www.welt.de/die-welt/vermischtes/article6583288/Griechischer-Verband-ruft-zum-Boykott-deutscher-Waren-auf.html
its some German article but all in all they say is a Greek organization is calling for boycott of German articles. I don't care German banks cause all they did is stealing money of German citizens and now they do the same again. They pump money into a poor Country (that they never will get back) and then they buy every shit that has some value for some bucks and finally they want money of German citizens to "safe" them (make even more profit).
What makes me angry is that Greece wants GERMAN money but at the same time their citizens want to boycott our German industry.
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On May 13 2010 05:23 AmstAff wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2010 04:28 nothingbutzerg wrote:On May 13 2010 04:01 AmstAff wrote:On May 13 2010 03:35 nothingbutzerg wrote:On May 12 2010 04:37 oN_Silva wrote:
yeah greece is just fail. first they lie so much to the european nations to belong to them (probably to get help in their problems with turkey and the xtra money) then they are wasting it like they used to. now crying for help aah please Germany you have to help us... we just lived soo good thx to ur money now we dont have any anymore... n33d more plx or eu dies
ofc continuing buying weapons to defend their retarded zyphern island vs turkey.
np we ll help u greecs anytime.
(iam german, german pov) what on earth are you talking about?Do you have anything to contribute to this discussion? Because your childish analysis sucks! He is right, even if its maybe in the wrong topic. Greeks work only until the age of 55 in Germany we work until 67, you are wasting money that you don't have and want more and the funny thing is you boycott the German industry, because we want proofs that you don't waste the money again and that you are able to solve the problems after 1 time help. imo they should let die Greece. This Horror should end fast, its better than pumping tons of money into a dead Country just to slow his dead and push it some months or years away. Germany is dead his self. We even don't have the money to repair our streets, but its okay lets give our last money to the Greeks. For your information Greek people work until 65-67.Pensions given at 55 are to people with specific problems and some women but they receive a small amount of pension.If you don't know about how things work in a country i suggest you ask first. Greek people boycott german industry?????omg what are you talking about?50% of the cars driven are German,the main constructor of Greece's national roads is owned by Germans,The biggest airport of Athens was build and is in control of German company.Greece is buying German weapons and Panzers and submarines.I could go on with the list but there is no reason. All you do with your narrow-mind thinking is that Greek people are wasting your (????) money?Well FIY Greece should not have been allowed to enter the EMU(Most Europeans knew that it is a corrupted shitty country) but who wanted of course to take advantage of smaller countries since they had the the strongest currency?Germany and France of course! You are oversimplifying things to "Bad lazy mediterraneans,we work all day and they take our money,take our jobs and marry our women" Furthermore Greece took a loan which its biggest part comes from the IMf(which most people here is opppsed to so that means that they don't want your money) so your money,jobs and women are safe.You miss the point that the whole world is fucked up and and you blame Greece for that.What is Germany's or United states' debt do you have a clue?Why these countries don't suffer a financial terrorism? http://www.welt.de/die-welt/vermischtes/article6583288/Griechischer-Verband-ruft-zum-Boykott-deutscher-Waren-auf.htmlits some German article but all in all they say is a Greek organization is calling for boycott of German articles. I don't care German banks cause all they did is stealing money of German citizens and now they do the same again. They pump money into a poor Country (that they never will get back) and then they buy every shit that has some value for some bucks and finally they want money of German citizens to "safe" them (make even more profit). What makes me angry is that Greece wants GERMAN money but at the same time their citizens want to boycott our German industry.
so there is one article or someone wrote a piece of shit and that defines the whole situation.Great insight!
German banks my friend are giving Greece money so that they will have later on under their hands(and the corporations and funds they represent) the whole natural resources and everything productive comes out of it.It's a national sell-out to anyone who offers!You are missing the big picture!
edit:how do you know it is GERMAN money.Didn't you notice that a huge part of "GERMAN money" comes from Greece?Why do you think Siemens or Daimler have given money to politicians and political parties?To get the job therefore to get the money.In conclusion EU money given to Greece was given back to you 
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On May 13 2010 05:42 nothingbutzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2010 05:23 AmstAff wrote:On May 13 2010 04:28 nothingbutzerg wrote:On May 13 2010 04:01 AmstAff wrote:On May 13 2010 03:35 nothingbutzerg wrote:On May 12 2010 04:37 oN_Silva wrote:
yeah greece is just fail. first they lie so much to the european nations to belong to them (probably to get help in their problems with turkey and the xtra money) then they are wasting it like they used to. now crying for help aah please Germany you have to help us... we just lived soo good thx to ur money now we dont have any anymore... n33d more plx or eu dies
ofc continuing buying weapons to defend their retarded zyphern island vs turkey.
np we ll help u greecs anytime.
(iam german, german pov) what on earth are you talking about?Do you have anything to contribute to this discussion? Because your childish analysis sucks! He is right, even if its maybe in the wrong topic. Greeks work only until the age of 55 in Germany we work until 67, you are wasting money that you don't have and want more and the funny thing is you boycott the German industry, because we want proofs that you don't waste the money again and that you are able to solve the problems after 1 time help. imo they should let die Greece. This Horror should end fast, its better than pumping tons of money into a dead Country just to slow his dead and push it some months or years away. Germany is dead his self. We even don't have the money to repair our streets, but its okay lets give our last money to the Greeks. For your information Greek people work until 65-67.Pensions given at 55 are to people with specific problems and some women but they receive a small amount of pension.If you don't know about how things work in a country i suggest you ask first. Greek people boycott german industry?????omg what are you talking about?50% of the cars driven are German,the main constructor of Greece's national roads is owned by Germans,The biggest airport of Athens was build and is in control of German company.Greece is buying German weapons and Panzers and submarines.I could go on with the list but there is no reason. All you do with your narrow-mind thinking is that Greek people are wasting your (????) money?Well FIY Greece should not have been allowed to enter the EMU(Most Europeans knew that it is a corrupted shitty country) but who wanted of course to take advantage of smaller countries since they had the the strongest currency?Germany and France of course! You are oversimplifying things to "Bad lazy mediterraneans,we work all day and they take our money,take our jobs and marry our women" Furthermore Greece took a loan which its biggest part comes from the IMf(which most people here is opppsed to so that means that they don't want your money) so your money,jobs and women are safe.You miss the point that the whole world is fucked up and and you blame Greece for that.What is Germany's or United states' debt do you have a clue?Why these countries don't suffer a financial terrorism? http://www.welt.de/die-welt/vermischtes/article6583288/Griechischer-Verband-ruft-zum-Boykott-deutscher-Waren-auf.htmlits some German article but all in all they say is a Greek organization is calling for boycott of German articles. I don't care German banks cause all they did is stealing money of German citizens and now they do the same again. They pump money into a poor Country (that they never will get back) and then they buy every shit that has some value for some bucks and finally they want money of German citizens to "safe" them (make even more profit). What makes me angry is that Greece wants GERMAN money but at the same time their citizens want to boycott our German industry. so there is one article or someone wrote a piece of shit and that defines the whole situation.Great insight! German banks my friend are giving Greece money so that they will have later on under their hands(and the corporations and funds they represent) the whole natural resources and everything productive comes out of it.It's a national sell-out to anyone who offers!You are missing the big picture! edit:how do you know it is GERMAN money.Didn't you notice that a huge part of "GERMAN money" comes from Greece?Why do you think Siemens or Daimler have given money to politicians and political parties?To get the job therefore to get the money.In conclusion EU money given to Greece was given back to you
there are tons of such articles. its not like i read one thing and believe it, but if i read it on 10 different sites with different owners...
...i start to believe.
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On May 13 2010 05:42 nothingbutzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2010 05:23 AmstAff wrote:On May 13 2010 04:28 nothingbutzerg wrote:On May 13 2010 04:01 AmstAff wrote:On May 13 2010 03:35 nothingbutzerg wrote:On May 12 2010 04:37 oN_Silva wrote:
yeah greece is just fail. first they lie so much to the european nations to belong to them (probably to get help in their problems with turkey and the xtra money) then they are wasting it like they used to. now crying for help aah please Germany you have to help us... we just lived soo good thx to ur money now we dont have any anymore... n33d more plx or eu dies
ofc continuing buying weapons to defend their retarded zyphern island vs turkey.
np we ll help u greecs anytime.
(iam german, german pov) what on earth are you talking about?Do you have anything to contribute to this discussion? Because your childish analysis sucks! He is right, even if its maybe in the wrong topic. Greeks work only until the age of 55 in Germany we work until 67, you are wasting money that you don't have and want more and the funny thing is you boycott the German industry, because we want proofs that you don't waste the money again and that you are able to solve the problems after 1 time help. imo they should let die Greece. This Horror should end fast, its better than pumping tons of money into a dead Country just to slow his dead and push it some months or years away. Germany is dead his self. We even don't have the money to repair our streets, but its okay lets give our last money to the Greeks. For your information Greek people work until 65-67.Pensions given at 55 are to people with specific problems and some women but they receive a small amount of pension.If you don't know about how things work in a country i suggest you ask first. Greek people boycott german industry?????omg what are you talking about?50% of the cars driven are German,the main constructor of Greece's national roads is owned by Germans,The biggest airport of Athens was build and is in control of German company.Greece is buying German weapons and Panzers and submarines.I could go on with the list but there is no reason. All you do with your narrow-mind thinking is that Greek people are wasting your (????) money?Well FIY Greece should not have been allowed to enter the EMU(Most Europeans knew that it is a corrupted shitty country) but who wanted of course to take advantage of smaller countries since they had the the strongest currency?Germany and France of course! You are oversimplifying things to "Bad lazy mediterraneans,we work all day and they take our money,take our jobs and marry our women" Furthermore Greece took a loan which its biggest part comes from the IMf(which most people here is opppsed to so that means that they don't want your money) so your money,jobs and women are safe.You miss the point that the whole world is fucked up and and you blame Greece for that.What is Germany's or United states' debt do you have a clue?Why these countries don't suffer a financial terrorism? http://www.welt.de/die-welt/vermischtes/article6583288/Griechischer-Verband-ruft-zum-Boykott-deutscher-Waren-auf.htmlits some German article but all in all they say is a Greek organization is calling for boycott of German articles. I don't care German banks cause all they did is stealing money of German citizens and now they do the same again. They pump money into a poor Country (that they never will get back) and then they buy every shit that has some value for some bucks and finally they want money of German citizens to "safe" them (make even more profit). What makes me angry is that Greece wants GERMAN money but at the same time their citizens want to boycott our German industry. so there is one article or someone wrote a piece of shit and that defines the whole situation.Great insight! German banks my friend are giving Greece money so that they will have later on under their hands(and the corporations and funds they represent) the whole natural resources and everything productive comes out of it.It's a national sell-out to anyone who offers!You are missing the big picture! edit:how do you know it is GERMAN money.Didn't you notice that a huge part of "GERMAN money" comes from Greece?Why do you think Siemens or Daimler have given money to politicians and political parties?To get the job therefore to get the money.In conclusion EU money given to Greece was given back to you
Relax he is just repeating what the tabloid media is spoon feeding the German public. I think it is very obvious that this whole situation is incredibly frustrating for the common citizen in each country. No need to get personal or be at each others throats in an online forum. Or anywhere for that matter.
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