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proberecall
Profile Joined August 2009
United States104 Posts
January 22 2010 02:57 GMT
#1

I was going to name the thread "Tiger Woods found in Sex addiction" rehab clinic but I thought it'd be closed or ignored, so I renamed it this way cause here's my question. My dad is very conservative and closed minded and we were talking the other night about this news and he said "bullshit, another XXI century made up dicease".

although harmful and well comning from a close minded person as my dad, it called my attention in this particular case because well, it made sense. I would have to say it all started like 6 years ago when my dad and I were watching this TV show and the show was about "stress the XX century dicease" and my dad was like "more like stress the XX century MADE UP dicease so that psychologists can get more money".

Now I'm majoring in journalism and I know jack shit about psychology and that but like I said, when my dad said that my first reaction was to rollover my eyes. but a few minutes later I was like:

is there really such thing as "sex addiction"?

I mean seriously, who wouldn't want to have a few girls here and there, how many times you walk on the streets or go to a bar and you just see a girl you jsut want to nail and call it a night, especially men of course. with the power and the money that Tiger Woods has, or George Clooney or Derek Jeter (3 guys well known for sleeping with A LOT of women), even Warren Beaty in his heyday. Sure Tiger screwed because he cheated on his wife, but from a manly point of view, what does make him different from George Clooney or Beaty ?

it's not like a drug addictoin, as we all know drugs have an addictive component (heroin, cocaine, etc).... or smoking with nicotine, but seriously "sex addiction" ? I don't know jack about Tiger's personal life, but I think that even him getting laid frequently, and winning all those tournaments and majors at the same time.... I don't think an "addict" would be able to do that, unless that person is extremly talented. let's face it, sex and sport at a competitive level are not precisely the best friends (not that there are enemies either).... but we're talking about sex addiction and one of the best golfers in history.... a sport which most important skill is CONCENTRATION.

how do you CONCENTRATE if you're a SEX ADDICT ? doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

anyway,
I didn't know what to think at the beginning, it's ticking in my head for sure. what do you guys think ?

is there really such thing as "sex addiction"?

kinda long post but just said what I think
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
January 22 2010 03:00 GMT
#2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_addiction

The jury is still out on this one, don't form a concrete opinion without personal experiences in the area.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24750 Posts
January 22 2010 03:02 GMT
#3
It sounds like you should focus on the similarities and differences of physical vs mental addiction. In addition, you should focus on the myths/truths about mental addiction.
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Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
January 22 2010 03:02 GMT
#4
So now you expect the media to use appropriate words ? Try reading some law related news
Resistance ain't futile
rockon1215
Profile Joined May 2009
United States612 Posts
January 22 2010 03:04 GMT
#5
Sex is only as addicting as any other enjoyable activity (like playing SC).
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Ecrilon
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
501 Posts
January 22 2010 03:07 GMT
#6
It's not chemically addictive, like nicotine, in that your body will not stop producing the chemicals that sex induces. I certainly wouldn't call it a disease. But I'm sure just like some people are addicted to video games, others are addicted to sex. But just like gaming addiction, it is not one of those addictions that can excuse related behaviors.
There is but one truth.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
January 22 2010 03:08 GMT
#7
Playing games as an addiction is also a controversial topic in medical/psychological circles.
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Ranix
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States666 Posts
January 22 2010 03:09 GMT
#8
If it was real, I would be honored to have earned the title.
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J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
January 22 2010 03:13 GMT
#9
With gambling, gaming, sex addiction and so on. It's not really an addiction to the activities, but the good feelings they can produce.
Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
January 22 2010 03:15 GMT
#10
I'm a recovering addict. I saw what was wrong with my life so I dumped that bitch. The temptation is always there to get another hit, and currently I can't see myself holding off too much longer. That feeling of euphoria when the dopamine hits your brain is too good.
Only a fool would die laughing. I was a fool.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
January 22 2010 03:17 GMT
#11
On January 22 2010 12:13 J1.au wrote:
With gambling, gaming, sex addiction and so on. It's not really an addiction to the activities, but the good feelings they can produce.

Sex addiction produces good feelings all over her face.
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MetalMarine
Profile Joined June 2007
United States1559 Posts
January 22 2010 03:18 GMT
#12
On January 22 2010 12:17 deathgod6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 12:13 J1.au wrote:
With gambling, gaming, sex addiction and so on. It's not really an addiction to the activities, but the good feelings they can produce.

Sex addiction produces good feelings all over her face.



AHAHHAHAH, best line ever
Hanners
Profile Joined August 2009
United States142 Posts
January 22 2010 03:18 GMT
#13
A professor friend of mine went through sexual addiction therapy.

It wasn't until he embraced and accepted his sexuality did he actually start improving his life.

When it comes to behavioral "addictions," I think that instead of labeling someone as a deviant, it might be a better idea to question why we as a society feel the need to label them as such. Personally, I love "sex addicts," they're always ready to go when I am.
Were all mad here. Im mad. Youre mad.
Poly325
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States99 Posts
January 22 2010 03:24 GMT
#14
if you can be addicted to sex, then might as well call life an addiction as well.
Live life with all of your heart
BraveNewWorld
Profile Joined December 2009
United States229 Posts
January 22 2010 03:33 GMT
#15
It's 100% psychological and/or social, no mental emotions are going on, since people who are afflicted with this disease are pretty shallow (hey look a Tiger just appeared)
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
January 22 2010 03:36 GMT
#16
On January 22 2010 12:02 micronesia wrote:
It sounds like you should focus on the similarities and differences of physical vs mental addiction. In addition, you should focus on the myths/truths about mental addiction.


For what its worth "physical/mental addiction" are no longer terms that are really used with modern addiction theory. The biological basis for how/why addiction occurs gets more and more blurry as neuroscanning techniques get better. The idea of something being physically dependent (ie when its removed there are serious side effects like with opiates) is somewhat separate from the actual model of what addiction is.

The idea that it is made up is completely true, however that is also true with any and all forms of mental abnormality. What is "mental disease" is completely culturally based, as anything that doesn't fall within normal behavioral standards will be deviant or however you want to look at it. For example ADHD is not diagnosed almost anywhere outside of America, and for many years homosexuality and "frigidity" (when a woman won't put out LOL) were conditions that existed in the DSM.
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meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 22 2010 03:42 GMT
#17
I would say so... just from personal experience though. Sex is a drug to some people...
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 22 2010 03:43 GMT
#18
In the same way people are addicted to ice cream, driving fast and chocolate cake.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24750 Posts
January 22 2010 03:48 GMT
#19
On January 22 2010 12:36 heyoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 12:02 micronesia wrote:
It sounds like you should focus on the similarities and differences of physical vs mental addiction. In addition, you should focus on the myths/truths about mental addiction.


For what its worth "physical/mental addiction" are no longer terms that are really used with modern addiction theory. The biological basis for how/why addiction occurs gets more and more blurry as neuroscanning techniques get better. The idea of something being physically dependent (ie when its removed there are serious side effects like with opiates) is somewhat separate from the actual model of what addiction is.

The idea that it is made up is completely true, however that is also true with any and all forms of mental abnormality. What is "mental disease" is completely culturally based, as anything that doesn't fall within normal behavioral standards will be deviant or however you want to look at it. For example ADHD is not diagnosed almost anywhere outside of America, and for many years homosexuality and "frigidity" (when a woman won't put out LOL) were conditions that existed in the DSM.

My thoughts were that putting a foreign chemical into your body might create a physical addiction whereas being addicted to experiential events can't be physical either way. I admit I'm not up on the actual theory.
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lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
January 22 2010 03:48 GMT
#20
sex "addiction" is a complete crock of shit. your dad is right.

it's just basic biology, males are programmed to have sex as much as possible to impregnate as many women as possible (it's called life).
Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
January 22 2010 03:50 GMT
#21
On January 22 2010 12:48 lazz wrote:
sex "addiction" is a complete crock of shit. your dad is right.

it's just basic biology, males are programmed to have sex as much as possible to impregnate as many women as possible (it's called life).

This man speaks the truth.
Only a fool would die laughing. I was a fool.
Hanners
Profile Joined August 2009
United States142 Posts
January 22 2010 03:53 GMT
#22
On January 22 2010 12:48 lazz wrote:
sex "addiction" is a complete crock of shit. your dad is right.

it's just basic biology, males are programmed to have sex as much as possible to impregnate as many women as possible (it's called life).


And if a female likes to be fucked all day long?

I mean, I'm more of someone who enjoys getting other people off over and over, but one of my girlfriends would masturbate to climax about 5 times per day.
Were all mad here. Im mad. Youre mad.
00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
January 22 2010 03:57 GMT
#23
I wonder how the Sex addicts groups would be:

- "Hello I'm Zarathustra and I am a Sex addict"
- "I can proudly say I haven't touched a woman in 2 years 1 month and 3 days"

- "Congratulations Zarathustra you are no longer a sex addict, now you are just a LOSER!!!" lol

But yes I know addictions are way more complex than that.
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
January 22 2010 04:00 GMT
#24
hope she drank a lot of fluids
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 04:28:58
January 22 2010 04:25 GMT
#25
sex/masturbation totally can be an addiction. Anything can be an addiction. Shit we were/are all addicted to computer/starcraft. Can you give up a computer for 1 month?

If you can't do that then try this, Masturbate/sex at least 3 times a day for a couple of weeks. Now try to stop cold turkey and see how long you go.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
January 22 2010 04:29 GMT
#26
On January 22 2010 12:50 Ludrik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 12:48 lazz wrote:
sex "addiction" is a complete crock of shit. your dad is right.

it's just basic biology, males are programmed to have sex as much as possible to impregnate as many women as possible (it's called life).

This man speaks the truth.


Neither of these two have any idea what they are talking about. Everyone needs to accept the fact that the jury is still out on this one. My beliefs, which are surely better formed than yours on the topic of addiction, are equally useless. "Males are programmed to have sex as much as possible..." Not true for all men... there are actually genetic markers that correlate strongly with monogamy.
Live to win.
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
January 22 2010 04:32 GMT
#27
Alot of people who were abused or raped at a young age as well as those with serious drug problems also experience "sex addiction". I think as far as non-substance addictions go this is a reasonable claim, but I would also assume its a result of psychological issues moreso than it is physically addicting. Similar to being addicted to gambling or something I would assume it stems from other problems and lack of self control. Personally if I get laid once a day, I'm not horny anymore, but there are people in these sex addiction clinics/help groups who can't go a few hours without masturbating or having sex. As much as I hate the whole "Lets call every issue people have a disease" theme I think that this could be a serious problem for people similar to gambling addictions.
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
January 22 2010 04:35 GMT
#28
On January 22 2010 12:48 lazz wrote:
sex "addiction" is a complete crock of shit. your dad is right.

it's just basic biology, males are programmed to have sex as much as possible to impregnate as many women as possible (it's called life).


That is actually not overly true. Our reproductive organs are designed to be able to do so, but as a species we are predominantly monogamous, similar to many less intelligent mammals. There has been research done which suggests that monogamy is a result of genetics.
Inzek
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Chile802 Posts
January 22 2010 04:35 GMT
#29
endorphines...

its evolution if you dont fuck you dont procreate, so sex addicts are more suitted for the enviroment, ppl with sex addiction will pass their genes the better.... lol
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Inzek
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Chile802 Posts
January 22 2010 04:36 GMT
#30
On January 22 2010 12:53 Hanners wrote:
I mean, I'm more of someone who enjoys getting other people off over and over, but one of my girlfriends would masturbate to climax about 5 times per day.


that speaks poorly of you... kidding but rly
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ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
January 22 2010 04:36 GMT
#31
Tiger Woods just went into that rehab hospital so he could live down the scandal of (GASP) having sex.
I don't even see why anyone cares about this at all. Like a rich powerful good looking man having sex is such a rediculous thing to happen.
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Pure.Freedom
Profile Joined January 2010
United States114 Posts
January 22 2010 04:40 GMT
#32
In my opinion sex addiction being an actual disease is pretty legit. You say that "it's not like a drug addictoin, as we all know drugs have an addictive component " however, have u ever heard of oxytocin? If not i highly recommend googling it and doing some research on it, some if it is actually pretty interesting stuff. But if you dont want to, just know that its a chemical found in everyone's bodies. Though alot of its uses has to do with females, when both men and women have an orgasm the level of oxytocin in the body increases. And im not positive about this part but i think i remember reading that if oxytocin didnt exist that people could not orgasm? ... dont hold me to that cuz i dont have any proof of that... but my point is, there are quite a few chemicals that are related to sex (oxytocin being just one of them, phenethylamine is another one to look up if you are interested) and sex and orgasms can bring about changes in the levels of these chemicals making us feel happy!

Therefore, if you think about it... in the same way that somebody can get addicted to the chemicals in drugs, somebody can get addicted to the chemicals related to sex... because both activites can result in the release of chemicals that make us feel good
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Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
January 22 2010 04:41 GMT
#33
On January 22 2010 12:48 lazz wrote:
sex "addiction" is a complete crock of shit. your dad is right.

it's just basic biology, males are programmed to have sex as much as possible to impregnate as many women as possible (it's called life).


i don't think it's that simple.

I've never been addicted to sex, but there were times that i've [felt that i've] been addicted to masturbating. Couldn't go more than 4 hours or so without masturbating. I would leave class to go masturbate, stop in the middle of dinner to masturbate, i would leave in the middle of a movie at the movie theater. Once i got a hard-on i couldn't NOT do it. Hell, i've done it on a bus with people on it, i've done it in the middle of class under my desk, been at friends' and done it next to them while they watch TV and aren't any wiser.

I've not been like that since i was a teenager. Now when i get horny and it's not an appropriate time, i just ignore it. But when i was younger, it would completely consume my thoughts, and if i couldn't do it i would get hyper-irritated, to the point where i would sweat uncontrollably and sometimes i would even get nauseous to the point of puking.

So, someone being addicted to sex? Yeah, not that hard to imagine.
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Jazriel
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada404 Posts
January 22 2010 04:41 GMT
#34
"Disease."

I can barely read your thread because of such a blatant error. Please fix this.
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pioneer8
Profile Joined January 2010
United States143 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 04:57:05
January 22 2010 04:54 GMT
#35
On January 22 2010 13:41 Mora wrote:


i don't think it's that simple.

I've never been addicted to sex, but there were times that i've [felt that i've] been addicted to masturbating. Couldn't go more than 4 hours or so without masturbating. I would leave class to go masturbate, stop in the middle of dinner to masturbate, i would leave in the middle of a movie at the movie theater. Once i got a hard-on i couldn't NOT do it. Hell, i've done it on a bus with people on it, i've done it in the middle of class under my desk, been at friends' and done it next to them while they watch TV and aren't any wiser.

I've not been like that since i was a teenager. Now when i get horny and it's not an appropriate time, i just ignore it. But when i was younger, it would completely consume my thoughts, and if i couldn't do it i would get hyper-irritated, to the point where i would sweat uncontrollably and sometimes i would even get nauseous to the point of puking.

So, someone being addicted to sex? Yeah, not that hard to imagine.



Hahaha is this post for real? I made an account just to respond to this lol. I can imagine all those times younger hanging out with my friends and secretly meanwhile noone was looking someone was masturbating. hahaha oh god
killanator
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States549 Posts
January 22 2010 06:02 GMT
#36
The chemicals released during orgasm are very powerful, yes i believe it is possible.
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
January 22 2010 06:11 GMT
#37
I know sex addiction is real. The fight is long and hard and overcoming it takes alot of stamina. I hope you all learn first hand how terrible it is to sleep with alot of girls and have no control over your ability to pull out even when you know the implications of continuing.


Shinshin
Profile Joined November 2009
United States106 Posts
January 22 2010 06:11 GMT
#38
Addiction is defined when there's consequences. When it starts to effect your everyday life in a negative way. Sex addiction is a real illness.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
January 22 2010 06:12 GMT
#39
On January 22 2010 13:29 aRod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 12:50 Ludrik wrote:
On January 22 2010 12:48 lazz wrote:
sex "addiction" is a complete crock of shit. your dad is right.

it's just basic biology, males are programmed to have sex as much as possible to impregnate as many women as possible (it's called life).

This man speaks the truth.


Neither of these two have any idea what they are talking about. Everyone needs to accept the fact that the jury is still out on this one. My beliefs, which are surely better formed than yours on the topic of addiction, are equally useless. "Males are programmed to have sex as much as possible..." Not true for all men... there are actually genetic markers that correlate strongly with monogamy.

Of course it's not true for all men. some of them are homosexuals.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
January 22 2010 06:15 GMT
#40
actually i thought about the same thing, a friedn of mine tole meg about David Duchovny and his disease and i just found it fckin hillarious.
but yeah, now that i think of it, mental addiction, not physical, that might be, but how's that a disease i never heard of things like chocolate addiction or reading addiction
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IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 06:17:25
January 22 2010 06:17 GMT
#41
Sry for offtopic but wtf is "dicease" ? I see here many posters with English as their basic language so I wonder if someone could elaborate please.

+ Show Spoiler +
I know what disease is but dicease eludes me.
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pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
January 22 2010 06:18 GMT
#42
Its not sex addiction

Just Tiger likes chicks too much xDDD
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csfield
Profile Joined October 2008
United States206 Posts
January 22 2010 06:29 GMT
#43
I'm not an addict.

I could stop if I wanted to.
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Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 22 2010 06:32 GMT
#44
Of course its real. I could just as easily ask if cigarettes or crack were "really" addictive.
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Pure.Freedom
Profile Joined January 2010
United States114 Posts
January 22 2010 06:38 GMT
#45
On January 22 2010 15:17 IceCube wrote:
Sry for offtopic but wtf is "dicease" ? I see here many posters with English as their basic language so I wonder if someone could elaborate please.

+ Show Spoiler +
I know what disease is but dicease eludes me.


Just a typo by the OP
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BlissX1
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States328 Posts
January 22 2010 06:45 GMT
#46
An Addiction has to do with something physical that is altering the brain to need. Sex.. i'm not sure does this. There are databases that say this and stuff. Like gaming is not an addiction
Mainly because it does not chemically alter your mind to HAVE to play it to live.
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Pure.Freedom
Profile Joined January 2010
United States114 Posts
January 22 2010 06:55 GMT
#47
On January 22 2010 15:45 Bl1ss wrote:
An Addiction has to do with something physical that is altering the brain to need. Sex.. i'm not sure does this. There are databases that say this and stuff. Like gaming is not an addiction
Mainly because it does not chemically alter your mind to HAVE to play it to live.


Sex does chemically alter your mind... if you want some more details check my post on one of the earlier pages... and/or look up things like oxytocin, phenethylamine, and prolactin
What you need to do is be thankful for the life you got, you know what im sayin? ... stop lookin at what you ain't got ... start bein thankful for what you do got.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
January 22 2010 07:02 GMT
#48
I am addicted to sex and having withdrawals please hook me up
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
January 22 2010 07:07 GMT
#49
Of course it's real. There is a difference between wanting sex and being obsessed with it nearly all the time. When you cheat on your supermodel wife, it is clear that your appetites are insatiable and you have an addiction.
iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 07:31:27
January 22 2010 07:30 GMT
#50
On January 22 2010 13:54 pioneer8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 13:41 Mora wrote:


i don't think it's that simple.

I've never been addicted to sex, but there were times that i've [felt that i've] been addicted to masturbating. Couldn't go more than 4 hours or so without masturbating. I would leave class to go masturbate, stop in the middle of dinner to masturbate, i would leave in the middle of a movie at the movie theater. Once i got a hard-on i couldn't NOT do it. Hell, i've done it on a bus with people on it, i've done it in the middle of class under my desk, been at friends' and done it next to them while they watch TV and aren't any wiser.

I've not been like that since i was a teenager. Now when i get horny and it's not an appropriate time, i just ignore it. But when i was younger, it would completely consume my thoughts, and if i couldn't do it i would get hyper-irritated, to the point where i would sweat uncontrollably and sometimes i would even get nauseous to the point of puking.

So, someone being addicted to sex? Yeah, not that hard to imagine.



Hahaha is this post for real? I made an account just to respond to this lol. I can imagine all those times younger hanging out with my friends and secretly meanwhile noone was looking someone was masturbating. hahaha oh god


I was kinda like this except not as bad (never got physically ill from it, just enjoyed it a lot at times that now, being more normal, seem pretty fucking weird) in like 8th grade, so it sounds plausible.

On January 22 2010 16:07 0neder wrote:
Of course it's real. There is a difference between wanting sex and being obsessed with it nearly all the time. When you cheat on your supermodel wife, it is clear that your appetites are insatiable and you have an addiction.


This is the dumbest post I've ever read. Just because his wife is attractive he's got an uncontrollable sexual urge if he cheats on her?
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JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
January 22 2010 07:32 GMT
#51
On January 22 2010 15:12 lazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 13:29 aRod wrote:
On January 22 2010 12:50 Ludrik wrote:
On January 22 2010 12:48 lazz wrote:
sex "addiction" is a complete crock of shit. your dad is right.

it's just basic biology, males are programmed to have sex as much as possible to impregnate as many women as possible (it's called life).

This man speaks the truth.


Neither of these two have any idea what they are talking about. Everyone needs to accept the fact that the jury is still out on this one. My beliefs, which are surely better formed than yours on the topic of addiction, are equally useless. "Males are programmed to have sex as much as possible..." Not true for all men... there are actually genetic markers that correlate strongly with monogamy.

Of course it's not true for all men. some of them are homosexuals.


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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 07:40:55
January 22 2010 07:39 GMT
#52
Logically an addiction would be when you prioritise it so much over everything else that it hampers your life. For instance you have to present a portfolio at a job interview, but you decide to present a portfolio of a different kind to your girlfriend instead (anti-troll).

Gaming can also be an addition, for instance instead of getting the right amount of sleep, you decide to game, or you decide to game instead of going out with your friends, going to school, or going to work.

Instinct is also no excuse for an addiction. If we all followed our instincts most of us would probably be extremely unhappy in this day and age, we have prevented a lot of our instincts to suit society.


Technically I don't know because I haven't done psychology, but to say you can't be addicted to sex or gaming would be naive, because addiction is as close as definition as you can get to describing the behavioural states mentioned. What else would you call it?
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Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
January 22 2010 08:30 GMT
#53
Tiger Woods marries a trophy wife, and we're debating whether he's a sex addict or not? I guess the marriage was only to put up this great mirage of a good sports guy playing fair and living good. He's just as gutless as the rest of us.
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Hanners
Profile Joined August 2009
United States142 Posts
January 22 2010 08:35 GMT
#54
On January 22 2010 13:36 Inzek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 12:53 Hanners wrote:
I mean, I'm more of someone who enjoys getting other people off over and over, but one of my girlfriends would masturbate to climax about 5 times per day.


that speaks poorly of you... kidding but rly


Hey, I have a job. I couldn't go over to her place to sex her up all the time while I'm at work just as I won't be able to be at the beck and call of the married couple I am about to start seeing

Besides, her family didn't like me anyway.

I'm not a fan of psychology and people's faith in it, myself. People seem to think that it's a legitimate science and it's not. It's all theory and subjective based on "educated guesses" and assumed observable patterns. These same people tend to label others who fall out of societal "norms" as mentally disturbed in some way.
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
January 22 2010 09:29 GMT
#55
It is for rela.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
January 22 2010 10:24 GMT
#56
On January 22 2010 12:48 lazz wrote:
sex "addiction" is a complete crock of shit. your dad is right.

it's just basic biology, males are programmed to have sex as much as possible to impregnate as many women as possible (it's called life).


if you completely ignore the fact that we have a culture (which seperates us a great deal form animals) you are (mostly) right. but we aren't monkeys anymore.

but even if you ignore our culture you still have different evolutionary concepts. they do not all invole having sex to the fullest, some even have no sex at all. if "having sex like maniacs" would be the only good way to secure your genes we all would do it like the fishes and produce 127893689127362 eggs and seamen, but we are not. actually its longtime raising of the children that made us big, our culture of working togheter in big familyshelped our development big time.

it's the simple mass = chances contra few = quality. if you have 10 ppl but teach them all perfectly you get 10 good quality persons. if you fuck like a maniac and produce 1000 kids you may have produced that 1 wonderkid that is better than the 10 quality persons but maybe you will get 1000 dumb fucks. it's just different evolutionary strategys.
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Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
January 22 2010 10:29 GMT
#57
In reality, you can get addicted to anything. I saw a special on 60 minutes about a lady addicted to running. She ran for 7-9 hours a day, and ate full meals and everything but was very underweight. Her doctors told her to stop running so much but she couldn't stop.
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NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 10:31:41
January 22 2010 10:30 GMT
#58
When i was like 13/14 i had this friend who never had sex with his gfs, then one day after every one bulling him about it he did it. Since then hes been addicted to sex. He always talks about it. And yes hes really addicted to sex trust me on that.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 10:35:34
January 22 2010 10:32 GMT
#59
orgasms release dopamine and endorphins. if a doctor scanned the brain of a person during an orgasm it looks like a brain on cocaine or a heroine rush iirc.

http://www.reuniting.info/science/sex_in_the_brain
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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
January 22 2010 10:47 GMT
#60
sex, masturbating, good food, video games, success etc have all shown to make the brain release dopamine that flows over the receptors giving you that "fucking awesome" feeling. of course different things will release different amounts of dopamine like coke, heroin will completely drain your dopamine while other things only release a little.

dopamine is your body's natural way of telling you that something is good and you should be doing it more, like sex, exercise and success/achievement. kinda like sugar/glucose in fruit is the dopamine trigger and the brain is telling you that you should eat more fruit but then humans can artificially create sugar and made soda drinks which is kinda like food cocaine for the human brain.

addiction comes in two forms. mental and physical. physical is drugs like alcohol, cocaine, heroin etc where if you stop using it you feel physical pain from withdrawal but addiction to fast food, video games etc is only mental where you're used to the dopamine rush and think that you can only achieve that dopamine hit from those activities.

so yea you can definitely be mentally addicted to sex. damn if i had a lot of money and banged two smokin hot girls every single day for a year i would get addicted too.
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Hanners
Profile Joined August 2009
United States142 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 10:52:47
January 22 2010 10:49 GMT
#61
On January 22 2010 19:32 CharlieMurphy wrote:
orgasms release dopamine and endorphins. if a doctor scanned the brain of a person during an orgasm it looks like a brain on cocaine or a heroine rush iirc.

http://www.reuniting.info/science/sex_in_the_brain


I love the chart.

It made me discount the whole article.

Psychology is so dumb.

pyrogenetix: If I'm following what you're saying, then dopamine is the body's reward saying that you've done something good. Therefore sex is good due to the dopamine rush. Therefore "sex addicts" are fucking awesome.
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 11:13:11
January 22 2010 11:12 GMT
#62
On January 22 2010 12:48 lazz wrote:
sex "addiction" is a complete crock of shit. your dad is right.

it's just basic biology, males are programmed to have sex as much as possible to impregnate as many women as possible (it's called life).


I think we've come quite far from basic biology though because we can actually think and not just act. We don't see someone like Idra construct strategies in order to get laid 5 times/day. Why? It doesn't matter THAT much to people nowadays.

Anything can become an addiction IF you use something in order to fill up some hole in yourself. Whether it's food, sex, Starcraft etc
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Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
January 22 2010 11:20 GMT
#63
Sex is a key part of the life cycle, it seems odd to call it an addiction. Although maybe that criticism isn't valid now that we make sure not to have babies.
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SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
January 22 2010 11:45 GMT
#64
Sex isn't an addiction, its just more Christian propaganda to force you to think that the good things in life are wrong.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
January 22 2010 11:47 GMT
#65
Everyone who says that it isn't and can't be an addiction most likely don't get laid at all.
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Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
January 22 2010 12:14 GMT
#66
I suppose the view of a sex addiction is like any other. It's when continuing to do it as regularly as you do has a detrimental affect on your life. I mean it's not bad for you, but people developing an obsession with it, to the point where they stop thinking about other things, can cause problems I'd imagine.
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Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
January 22 2010 12:20 GMT
#67
Hm, I don't think a lot of you guys understand the term addiction. No one said that sex per se is bad but when you cannot think about anything else than how to get laid, eventually get laid and still have the urge to have more sex until your penis burns, then we are talking about the term addiction.
  • Sex addiction is like an eating disorder
  • BBC - addicted to sex

Sex can become addictive in a similar way to alcohol and illegal drugs. During sex, our bodies release a powerful cocktail of chemicals that make us feel good. Some people get addicted to these chemicals and become obsessed with getting their next fix - their next sexual high. As with other addictions, the body also gets used to these chemicals, so the sufferer needs increasing amounts of sex to achieve the same buzz.
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 12:26:52
January 22 2010 12:25 GMT
#68
Yeah, point being:

It's not the actual addiction per se but the feel-good chemicals (dopamin etc) it results in. Therefore you can be addicted to almost anything as long as you get a rush from it. Sex addiction is also about being acknowledged and some people with a very low sense of self esteem (both males and females) turn to sex as a way to get comfort and recognition. While that's ok if you're in love, having sex multiple times/day with different partners in the long run isn't that fun. You end up feeling like a piece of trash
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chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2593 Posts
January 22 2010 12:27 GMT
#69
I don't know... never had sex....

But, seeing that people can get addicted to almost anything (dog food, starcraft, facebook), I guess sex can be an addiction.
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UFO
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
582 Posts
January 22 2010 12:33 GMT
#70
Addiction means that someone is a slave to some activity. This often means that it consumes a shitload of addict`s time but not always .

I hold a degree of intolerence towards all these addict concepts because they are mostly completely misunderstood, retarded and sensless.

Ie - when you work towards some goal and it requires you to take your time - do you say you are fucking addicted ? No, you work towards a goal . Yet almost everyone will tell that you are addicted just because you spend too much and it can be really annoying when they try to distract you and even think they are doing a good thing.


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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
January 22 2010 12:38 GMT
#71
dopamine -> Nucleus accumbens = potential addiction

I dont see anyone doubting that gambling addiction is real, so why couldnt you be addicted to sex? That said Im still somewhat skeptical about it.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
January 22 2010 12:42 GMT
#72
Yeah, addictions are very contextual and this actually goes for alot of the psychiatric "illnesses".

Someone talking to jesus is not schizophrenic, he's devoted.

A pretty typical sex addict would be Christian Troy in Nip/Tuck. He's a guy who was molested by his dad and because of his traumatic childhood he has created an strong ego, to the point of being narcissistic. Also his sex-life deals with the rejection and hurt he had to endure growing up and he has a huge void inside of him that needs filling up. Sex seems to be more something that he just does rather than enjoys doing.

Addiction is never clear-cut. There are many different reasons why people get addicted to different things. I believe a big part of of sex addicts are either very insecure or have been molested themselves.
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 12:47:31
January 22 2010 12:44 GMT
#73
On January 22 2010 21:38 Frits wrote:
dopamine -> Nucleus accumbens = potential addiction

I dont see anyone doubting that gambling addiction is real, so why couldnt you be addicted to sex? That said Im still somewhat skeptical about it.


It's not the fact that you're having alot of sex, but the reason WHY you are really doing it. Of course someone can have alot of sex and not be an addict if you just want to have a good time for a while. Someone else might be doing the same thing (have lots of sex with different partners) but more due to psychological reasons than physical enjoyment.

That being said, I'm very sceptical in using this term too easily for people who have lots of sex. Sex is a natural thing to do and this sounds more like an effort from medical companies in order to push some new medicine they are researching or w/e.
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Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
January 22 2010 12:47 GMT
#74
i try to get myself be addicted to learning for university.. thus far i failed

and sex.. why not. people are different and some are more responsive to certain things than others. i don't think that every single person _basically_ has the same sex drive - so naturally there will be some who may need sex only once a week and are content with it and others are like super hooooot all the time steaming with horniness
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
January 22 2010 13:23 GMT
#75
If sex addiction is real... my ex had it. Got damn that chick was a nympho...

My current GF asks me sometimes for it, but not as much as my ex. That chick had some problems

I dunno about you guys, but I thought it was weird when my ex wanted sex ALL the time.
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rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 14:27:35
January 22 2010 14:23 GMT
#76
sex addiction is not real its complete bullshit. I know i don't have sex addiction, I am just horny as fuck, so I just nail my girlfriend three times a day and pass out tired as fuck. It's a fucking biological necessity to reproduce, our genitalia were MADE for that exact purpose, calling it an addiction is one of the most ludicrous things ive heard. Hey might as well come up with something called food addiction, so the pharmaceudical companies can have "scientific backings" to how their diet pills supposedly "cure" an imaginary addiction. Shit like this gets me so steamed

edit: spelling
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Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
January 22 2010 14:33 GMT
#77
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsive_overeating
Kong John
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark1020 Posts
January 22 2010 14:49 GMT
#78
In theory you can get addicted to anything that releases dopamin into your mind. Eating, drinking alcohol, sex etc. as long as you have problems that may make you release less dopamin than a normal person, these things can become an addiction. Masturbation has the same effect, and sometimes doctors even tell patients to masturbate if they are depressed.
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HeartOfTofu
Profile Joined December 2009
United States308 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 21:05:46
January 22 2010 21:04 GMT
#79
I suppose any addiction to something pleasurable can be real. Be it drugs, sex, or sugar... If it makes us feel good, it can become an addiction when we start becoming dependent on them to cope with our lives. In the case of sex addiction, think of it not as some sort of chemical or biological addiction, but a psychological dependence on sex in order to cope with some sort of other unhappiness in your life.
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 21:15:32
January 22 2010 21:13 GMT
#80
On January 22 2010 23:23 rotinegg wrote:
sex addiction is not real its complete bullshit. I know i don't have sex addiction, I am just horny as fuck, so I just nail my girlfriend three times a day and pass out tired as fuck. It's a fucking biological necessity to reproduce, our genitalia were MADE for that exact purpose, calling it an addiction is one of the most ludicrous things ive heard. Hey might as well come up with something called food addiction, so the pharmaceudical companies can have "scientific backings" to how their diet pills supposedly "cure" an imaginary addiction. Shit like this gets me so steamed

edit: spelling


..... /facepalm.

Sorry dude but I think you're thinking about it from a very narrow perspective. Sex addicts almost always do it for psychological reasons, but physical.


On January 23 2010 06:04 HeartOfTofu wrote:
I suppose any addiction to something pleasurable can be real. Be it drugs, sex, or sugar... If it makes us feel good, it can become an addiction when we start becoming dependent on them to cope with our lives. In the case of sex addiction, think of it not as some sort of chemical or biological addiction, but a psychological dependence on sex in order to cope with some sort of other unhappiness in your life.


Exactly.
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Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
January 22 2010 21:13 GMT
#81
On January 22 2010 23:23 rotinegg wrote:
sex addiction is not real its complete bullshit. I know i don't have sex addiction, I am just horny as fuck, so I just nail my girlfriend three times a day and pass out tired as fuck. It's a fucking biological necessity to reproduce, our genitalia were MADE for that exact purpose, calling it an addiction is one of the most ludicrous things ive heard. Hey might as well come up with something called food addiction, so the pharmaceudical companies can have "scientific backings" to how their diet pills supposedly "cure" an imaginary addiction. Shit like this gets me so steamed

edit: spelling


maybe because you aren't addicted.

this is so retarded, you take yourself to be the be all tell all template for what humanity is. how far up your own ass can you get.
im so tired of all this arrogant ignorance, please do some level of research or at least contemplate the question for 2 seconds.

sex addiction is real if you consider impulse control disorders addictions. which i do, but the jury is still out on this one, medically speaking.
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
January 22 2010 21:19 GMT
#82
Your dad is wrong pal, anything can become an addiction, the reason why such problems have only surfaced in the last century is because thats when most study about the subject was done.

Dont see it like an addiction, or a disease, its a compulsive disorder

Therefore its no surprise many people who suffer from it end up blowing up their story to the whole world, they stopped being able to control that obssession and it started controling them, just like a really addicting drug everything you do, your schedule, etc... starts gravitating around your obssession and when people least expect they fucked up some aspect of their life because they werent able to put things in perspective anymore.

Its more complicated than that, but I hope it helps.

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