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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On January 18 2010 11:06 Whiplash wrote: Hey No_eL you can always move if you hate it that bad, I'm sure there's other countries out there you'd like a lot more then Chile. fat american hamburger shtu the fuck up | ||
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No_eL
Chile1438 Posts
On January 18 2010 11:14 mAKiTO wrote: none of my friends are on, so can someone explain to me what was so great about her? what has she done for chile that everyone approves so much? excuse my ignorance ._. Nothing great, but no mistakes, was the first women being chilean president, and made a great job mainting a good economy in the middle of a global economic crisis. | ||
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FranzF1
Chile1710 Posts
Ugh when I think on our next goverment with people of the UDI and RN... im going to puke brb They dont realize that our country is in a really good shape thanks to our last goverments... they just want a "new face" ... a guy got like 23% and he was independent just cus he was "new". | ||
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mAKiTO
Colombia4177 Posts
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StarsPride
United States364 Posts
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MeriaDoKk
Chile1726 Posts
On January 18 2010 11:35 StarsPride wrote: if you have such a fucking problem with it and your gonna sit here and complain, fucking kill him Lol, best solution so far. | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
On January 18 2010 11:31 mAKiTO wrote: so why did he get elected? whats going on here? Piñera just invested a lot of money and people in Chile is retarded enough to buy his movie made image. Since the other guy is not really reliable either because he was president like 10 years ago and made a lot of stupid moves the election turned into a 50/50 with a lot of people like me that really dont care. Piñera wins with like 51.5% of the votes. Thats like 200.000 people difference in a 6.900.000 universe. Official page: http://www.elecciones.gov.cl/Sitio2009/index.html | ||
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mAKiTO
Colombia4177 Posts
is there such thing as a re election in chile? like in Colombia there wasnt but Uribes popularity was so huge they did a referendum and he was re elected. Was that ever talked in Chile regarding Bachelet? | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
On January 18 2010 09:51 No_eL wrote: Today in my country a president election has concluded. Piñera and the conservative/rich sector won. We are so fucking screwed! The same sector that kill and made torture in the recent past will lead my country again. Im so sad and worried. Piñera its a businessman, one of the richest people in Chile, and now the president. The productive sector, education, radio, tv, etc are in the hands of the richest people, and besides the growing of our economy Chile its one of the most imbalanced countries in the world. I hope something happened in the future, i hope my people ope their eyes, we need a true change. Ok, to clarify and de-dramatize the situation, chilean politics is like this: As in alot of political system we will say that there a right, a left and a center. Years ago, a dictator had the power and of course did horrible things, this guy coming from the military was from the right side (extreme right) now there have been something like 20 years of left governament, each one of those getting closer to center political views as time passed. In the more modern elections, the last round took place between this slightly left polititians and the slightly right politicians. this year is no diferent, the only diference is that the other dude (the one from the right side) won. So, i can't aggre with puting the modern right politicians in the same basket as dictator pinochet because they are in a comon (but very large) sector. Keep in mind that right governement are nothing new, US has a political system dominated by right ideology and they don't go around torturing peope (well... they still kinda...), China is dominated by a left ideology and are alot closer to this abusive society you're trying to paint here. Saying Piñera is in the same sector that the guy that tortured and killed people is as dumb as saying Frei, or Bachelet is the same as those like Mao or Staline. So, the rest about saying that the country needs a change is kinda true actually, Chile's financial stability is dependent of copper's market value and there is very little efforts to diversificate economic sectors, education is very poor, and the country is in the last worldwide place of inecualitys between the richest and the poorest. that being said, 20 years of left governements have done very little toward these isssues. lastly, concerning the wealth of the guy is completly aberant, don't forget that his opponent in the last round is also a rich mofo, mostly getting his money from his family's legacy. So yeah, not trying to start an argument about whose politic is the best, if that question had a simple answer, I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have those elections. just don't go around saying stuff that are... basicaly... + Show Spoiler + bullshits. | ||
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SwaY-
Dominican Republic463 Posts
On January 18 2010 11:06 BraveNewWorld wrote: This is why politics should not mix with religion. Look at what has happened to America. Not one single fucking atheist in the history of presidency. You mean no public atheist, im sure. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On January 18 2010 11:02 No_eL wrote: The last president (Michelle Bachelet) was the most popular president in the actual history, she reached more than 70% percent of approvation!. Maybe you have only friends in the aristocratic sector, idk. Does that mean something in Chile? In U.S. almost every President reaches 70%+ approval rating at some time. Bush's approval ratings reached 90% at one point and he had only 25% approval when he left office | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
On January 18 2010 12:07 BlackJack wrote: Does that mean something in Chile? In U.S. almost every President reaches 70%+ approval rating at some time. Bush's approval ratings reached 90% at one point and he had only 25% approval when he left office I dont really know, but she was like never under 40% and she got 80% 2 months before leaving. | ||
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VorcePA
United States1102 Posts
Our founding fathers were atheist. OK, so maybe not atheist, but they did not like Christianity in general. Having said that... yeah, there's no way our Congress believes in the shit they cloak themselves in. | ||
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SanguineToss
Canada815 Posts
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CrimsonLotus
Colombia1123 Posts
Crappy education?, join the club, high inequiality rates?, welcome to Latin America, but if you look at the big picture you can see a pretty decent economy, not so high unemployment and 17% poverty rate (my city has over 50%, even when urban areas are supposed to be better) high human development rates anda a murder rate similar to those found in Western Europe. By no means i'm suggesting that anyone should just shut up and be perfectly happy with everything, but at least keep mind that you weren't born a few thousand miles to the north, in the drugs capital of the world with a highest murder rate than Iraq. PD: Chile is not going back to something even remotely similar to Pinochet's times just because you choose the right wing candidate... Wtf... One of the most solid and liberal democracies (for Latin America standards) can't go to hell that easy, people just love to be alarmist. | ||
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XenOsky
Chile2358 Posts
On January 18 2010 13:52 CrimsonLotus wrote: Don't mean to be an asshole, but Chile is one of the most decent places in Latin America, so i don't quite understand why so many chileans complain about the country (i know a few, plus my girlfriend is from there) when most of the rest of us have to live in such crappy countries. Crappy education?, join the club, high inequiality rates?, welcome to Latin America, but if you look at the big picture you can see a pretty decent economy, not so high unemployment and 17% poverty rate (my city has over 50%, even when urban areas are supposed to be better) high human development rates anda a murder rate similar to those found in Western Europe. By no means i'm suggesting that anyone should just shut up and be perfectly happy with everything, but at least keep mind that you weren't born a few thousand miles to the north, in the drugs capital of the world with a highest murder rate than Iraq. PD: Chile is not going back to something even remotely similar to Pinochet's times just because you choose the right wing candidate... Wtf... One of the most solid and liberal democracies (for Latin America standards) can't go to hell that easy, people just love to be alarmist. wow is really cool to see that over there you have such a nice opinion of chile... makes me feel a little bit better... On January 18 2010 11:35 StarsPride wrote: if you have such a fucking problem with it and your gonna sit here and complain, fucking kill him im planning a safe way to do it.. + Show Spoiler + well guys... not everything is so black in our near future, we are going to win the WORLD CUP! thats not so bad ![[image loading]](http://www.futbolred.com/contenido/eliminatorias/noticias/2009/IMAGEN/IMAGEN-4800305-2.gif) | ||
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coltrane
Chile988 Posts
On January 18 2010 13:52 CrimsonLotus wrote: Don't mean to be an asshole, but Chile is one of the most decent places in Latin America, so i don't quite understand why so many chileans complain about the country (i know a few, plus my girlfriend is from there) when most of the rest of us have to live in such crappy countries. Crappy education?, join the club, high inequiality rates?, welcome to Latin America, but if you look at the big picture you can see a pretty decent economy, not so high unemployment and 17% poverty rate (my city has over 50%, even when urban areas are supposed to be better) high human development rates anda a murder rate similar to those found in Western Europe. By no means i'm suggesting that anyone should just shut up and be perfectly happy with everything, but at least keep mind that you weren't born a few thousand miles to the north, in the drugs capital of the world with a highest murder rate than Iraq. PD: Chile is not going back to something even remotely similar to Pinochet's times just because you choose the right wing candidate... Wtf... One of the most solid and liberal democracies (for Latin America standards) can't go to hell that easy, people just love to be alarmist. Ok, lets put it this way. For the last 20 years the democratic government had a major effort on positioning Chile into the global economy. And they succed. By the other hand, inside here the things have been years after years of strugle in our parlament about social laws. The military dictatorship that we had from 1973 and 1990 changed our constitution and tied it up since 1980, so we need 2/3 of the parlament to change some "little things" as education, private property (that includes water, landscape and minerals), health, laboral laws, and our democratic system. Piñera represents the same people that made that laws, they are the same as they were before, they were the young faces of the dictatorship 20 years ago. And the people seems to forget it. Our democratic system is tied up by something called the binominal system, that grants in most cases 2 representatives from one of the main sides each on each disctrict. So, we always have a nearly balanced parlament, wich results in no real changes, basically while the progresism was in charge for the last 20 years we couldnt change much because the laws were rejected once and over again until it satisfies both sides, and that is politicians, not the people. Thats Chile, just makeup. We didnt overcome poverty, we just lower the standards and give the lower classes credit and debts. We didnt overcame unemployment, we develope some obscure and un-understandable ways of explotation, based on private health care and private pensionate system (in changing those both aspects is where Bachelett did the most, and that is why she have a 80% of aproval, but we are years away to see the economical repercusion of that) I would like rather be in any other country in latinamerica (not in colombia, nothing personal, i just think your president deals to much with the US army... i dont like that) than here, where we have credits and debts but no land, money or water. Today Piñera won because they have been years working hard buying votes from the poor people. And that is sad, Piñera represents the people with the most, and get the voting from the people with the less. Is a modern way of feudalism or aristocracy. I am ashamed of my country and hate it today more than ever. I am so happy that i am going away soon, but i feel so wrong inside, i feel that i have to stay and fight this fucker away, fight him everywhere. We should be talking about workers rights, abortion, education, culture and science, drug regulation. But the conservative won by talking of unemployment and crime... two things that we dont have a right to complain about when we look to other third world countries. EDIT:@XenOsky- :I have some ideas too... plus i am leaving the country soon... so ![[image loading]](http://images.colonies.com/images/emoticons/emoticon_ninja.gif) | ||
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XenOsky
Chile2358 Posts
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skindzer
Chile5114 Posts
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
On January 18 2010 14:58 skindzer wrote: The op is way biased. Nice opinion. | ||
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