On December 05 2009 11:00 FortuneSyn wrote: I seriously do not comprehend the concept of how someone would want to relearn something they already know how to do, that is never gonna be standardized, just so their fingers are less tired and maybe get a little faster speed???? Honestly man, we fucking play starcraft nonstop slamming our fingers all over the damn place and u want to make ur fingers more comfortable?!?!? The only way i see it being remotely worthwhile is if you are a secretary. Kudos to you for going all the way in your career.
I actually enjoyed relearning the keyboard layout.
I think another keyboard layout would actually set me back unless I'd also remap a lot of hotkeys in the programs I use. This is the pretty much the one and only drawback that will keep me from switching and I don't think this will change anytime soon, either.
I'm currently typing this message in Colemak. While it is currently taking awhile, I feel like I could type for longer amounts of time and not get as tired. Of course, it might be because I'm typing so slowly in the first place.
On December 05 2009 06:56 synapse wrote: This isnt a thread about Antonín Dvořák? :'(
I too looked in this thread in the hope that it would be about the composer :'(
I considered switching keyboard layouts a while back, decided against it since the only real benefit, from what I've seen, is a possibility of an insignificant increase in speed + being able to feel cool for being "alternative" with your keyboard usage.
I think it would be worth it if you have a job that's specifically about copying written documents to digital... But otherwise I would ask if you really think that much faster than you type. That is, would it actually save you time, or have you already gotten in time with your thoughts?
The other issue is that you would have a lot of trouble using computers at libraries and other people's houses. It's sad, but sometimes the most popular is the most efficient despite correctable flaws.
Edit: Should have read what the person above me posted... lol. Well that.
The main problem is that it'll be pain if for some reason you had to use a computer aside from your own. Of course you could go into the keyboard settings and change it for whatever computer you're using at the moment, but why bother with the process. I tried dvorak for a bit but it wasn't worth it. No real reason for me to type faster than 80 wpm anyway.
People should switch to Dvorak for the single reason that qwerty is a stupid layout and every person who converts is bringing us 1 step closer to sane keyboards.
On December 06 2009 16:16 Dental Floss wrote: People should switch to Dvorak for the single reason that qwerty is a stupid layout and every person who converts is bringing us 1 step closer to sane keyboards.
LOL, I sincerely doubt that everyone is going to switch because you found a system of typing stupid. Sure, QWERTY might not be the "most optimal," but it is a system that a lot of people have learned it, "stupid" or not.
Furthermore, the lack of testing between keyboard layouts means anecdotal evidence is currently the strongest evidence of keyboard superiority.
On December 06 2009 16:16 Dental Floss wrote: People should switch to Dvorak for the single reason that qwerty is a stupid layout and every person who converts is bringing us 1 step closer to sane keyboards.
LOL, I sincerely doubt that everyone is going to switch because you found a system of typing stupid. Sure, QWERTY might not be the "most optimal," but it is a system that a lot of people have learned it, "stupid" or not.
Furthermore, the lack of testing between keyboard layouts means anecdotal evidence is currently the strongest evidence of keyboard superiority.
On December 06 2009 17:16 fight_or_flight wrote: I wonder if there is a hardware converter than could convert a normal keyboard to dvorak.....like an in-line USB or PS2 converter.
I completely made the switch to Svorak (Dvorak with swedish characters?) from Qwerty a couple of years ago, and stuck with it for about a year, and yeah you should be comfortable with Dvorak within a month or so, it was much harder to go back to Qwerty than learning a completely new layout like Svorak, mainly because you realize how silly Qwerty is compared to a layout that's designed to be ergonomic like Dvorak/Svorak. It's probably possible to be really fluent in both layouts at the same time if you have atleast somewhat equal time on both, I found it quite hard with Qwerty since I used Svorak exclusively at home, and the little Qwerty use I got at the time was pretty much only at school and that was a little painful.
Anyway good luck with the lightning fast typing you will learn sooner or later with Dvorak!
On December 06 2009 17:04 Dental Floss wrote: I don't see any reason to buy a blu-ray player, I mean, none of my friends have blu-ray players, and they wouldn't be able to borrow my movies!
And besides, DVDs are just as good. Are there any tests that show people can even tell the difference???
The ironic thing is that you're being serious, and yet blu-ray is an absolutely ridiculous dead-before-it-started technology. It's completely proprietary and inferior to countless other high resolution technologies.
It's the 4th day and I'm already on the Colemak fully. Typing on it as we speak. It's pretty easy to learn and really, it makes way more sense than QWERTY. So much more of the typing is done on home row. Thanks to ChessWhiz !
For you Colemak users: Are you able to switch between qwerty and colemak easily? How much conditioning does this take, and do you ever mix up the keys while you are typing since they are somewhat similar?
BTW, one reason that I like Dvorak better is because it forces you to alternate hands while typing more than any other layout. Was Colemak designed with this in mind?
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