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swat
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Australia142 Posts
November 07 2009 08:25 GMT
#21
It is a little bit from column A and column B in my opinion.

A: Additional things are being placed inside more functionality but which may not be visible to the end user.

B: Due to the rapid growth of available system resources (from lets say 10 years back to now [and even then 20 years back to 10 years back]) efficiency in programming isn't as important as it once was. I am not saying efficiency should not be overlooked, if you can code something to run more efficiency then try to but there are more things to consider such as:

- If it will take a extra X months and Y amount of dollars to make the program Z% more efficient do you do it? dependent on a few things...

- If your program is using 2/4/16 bytes to store something rather then just 2 does it matter... again dependent on so many factors...

Thing is also these days the computers you have at home are quite powerful compared to what they need to do, (why complain about 50mb when you have terrabytes now) so does it really matter? shrug.
RaptorX
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Germany646 Posts
November 07 2009 10:24 GMT
#22
On November 07 2009 17:25 swat wrote:
Thing is also these days the computers you have at home are quite powerful compared to what they need to do, (why complain about 50mb when you have terrabytes now) so does it really matter? shrug.


Because even if they are cheap not all of us has 1/2 a Tera and some of us cant really afford it since family and real life dont allow it... but then this bastards dont allow you to keep the old good stuff and simply try to force their way in to making you have the newest thing even if you dont like it or if its not necessary, I am not seriously complaining about the 50MB itself is the fact that I cannot log in just because they decided...

For the record I am not an oldie (~25yrs old) but I think I am starting to feel that some things are not really that necessary because now I have some other things that are more important. I feel that I am starting to understand those 70-80yr old people that still insist that going personally to some places is better than sending an email... maybe we are wrong and they were right.

Maybe they DO add some security features (like that patch against webcam hacking in MSN) but hell you dont have to FORCE me to have the patch... shit I dont even talk to people `on webcams... and yes I know miranda but I liked MSN messenger over Miranda and every time I use it, just gives me a headache of missing things that I use daily...
I won
SWPIGWANG
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada482 Posts
November 07 2009 14:58 GMT
#23
Law of programming: Programs expands to fill available memory.

If you are a lazy programmer and you know you can save hundreds of hours of work by using more memory......... ah but all programmers optimize their code generation relative to time~
Konni
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
November 07 2009 16:49 GMT
#24
Usually the next version of a piece of software will have all the old parts + some new parts. So it naturally gets bigger from version to version. Only if you have a dedicated team and enough time or if you're bound by size conditions then will you think about the hard disk space your program uses. First thing is probably features and usability.
Though I really don't know why MSN would take up that much space lol.
Trowabarton756
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States870 Posts
November 07 2009 17:12 GMT
#25
Quicktime is just as bad Ill never own a fucking ipod apple so quit fucking making me install itunes every time your piece of shit movie player wants to update.
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Mr.Pyro
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Denmark959 Posts
November 07 2009 17:18 GMT
#26
It's got more to do with the standard of storage capabilities in general of most systems today.
Developers take advantage, and can up features.

While you may not notice the new features, there certainly is alot more under the hood if you take a closer look however, much of it is decorative stuff, as in the case of msn, more blinks backgrounds themes and so on that seems to be clogging the tubes.


Bottom line is developers have no interest in you buying new harddrives, they just like to take advantage of the fact that they don't have to conserve as much as they used to.
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besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
November 07 2009 17:20 GMT
#27
i hate it so much that i have to update from a MSN i like to some flashy retarded version for 12 year old girls with all this extra crap i dont give a damn about, yeah i guess i could go use something else, but i liked my msn the way it was, why cant they let me have my ancient msn in peace.
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
neutralstate
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore51 Posts
November 07 2009 17:21 GMT
#28
i'd like to mention how absolutely HORRIBLE some of the essential adobe plugins / software are. Acrobat reader crashes firefox all the time, and flash is certainly not stable. And when I use acrobat reader in firefox, then close all my applications (including firefox) and try and shutdown the computer, I almost ALWAYS get a "acrobat reader is not responding".... message and I have to force shut down acrobat reader. Or I get some weird message about how "the memory could not be read".

i've since switched to foxit reader, and save my own sanity..
tossinYoSalad
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
November 07 2009 17:52 GMT
#29
Lately the computer industry has been taking a turn toward a group of people i like to call "fucking retards." These are the people who dont even know what the screen in front of them is called. They (computer industry) write their programs geared at them. The extra bloat you see is not only the immensely bloated UI, but its also a help file documenting every little pixel of it. Then, in the case of microsoft, you have all the backdoor programs and "information" collectors. Get used to it.


BTW thats why brother owns, driver install: 1.7mb.
Equaoh
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada427 Posts
November 07 2009 17:57 GMT
#30
Foxit reader ftw!
Things are definitely being geared towards the non computer literate (apple is BASED on it), but with so many alternatives out there you can easily beat the conspiracy.
Slynki
Profile Joined September 2008
78 Posts
November 07 2009 18:10 GMT
#31
Use trillian for IM and foxit for pdf.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
November 09 2009 08:26 GMT
#32
this is incredibly entertaining :D i can imagine us all in our 70's whining about the resource hogging programs these days... nothing like back in the good old days.
jennyjameson
Profile Joined November 2021
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November 22 2021 06:30 GMT
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26351 Posts
November 22 2021 15:10 GMT
#34
Did we ever get to the bottom if there was a conspiracy between programmers and hard drive manufacturers?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
pavelgichko
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Bahrain3 Posts
November 30 2021 09:02 GMT
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