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JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
November 07 2009 07:09 GMT
#101
well she was pretty much anti-asian

but i didnt really take her seriously coz shes a ginger
HEY MEYT
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
November 07 2009 07:10 GMT
#102
On November 07 2009 16:09 JohnColtrane wrote:
well she was pretty much anti-asian

but i didnt really take her seriously coz shes a ginger


lololol
why so 진지해?
PrideNeverDies
Profile Joined July 2009
Kazakhstan74 Posts
November 07 2009 07:11 GMT
#103
On November 07 2009 16:01 haduken wrote:
Show nested quote +
i was just curious because when you were asked the question you deflected it in your reply without answering it.

also, it seems to me that you are projecting your insecurity about being socially handicapped to me. that fact that you brought those questions up and became extremely defensive over a question leads me to believe you have deeper issues you need to resolve.

do you regularly lack self-confidence and it is something brought on by your parents or self?


Maybe I do,maybe I don't, maybe I think that everyone should have a little insecurity in themselves so they can go on to be better human beings.

How am I suppose to judge that you want an answer instead of interpreting it as anything but a lame teenager retort.


insecurity could be a strong driving force toward success, but lacking confidence in social situations can be detrimental in aspects of life. it is up to you to guide your insecurity to the former instead of the latter.

also, if you perceive someone attacking you, then why resort to the same retorts? why not explain yourself and take the high road? any statement made can be perceived in many different ways and it is up to you to decide how that person meant it and how you should respond. see the difference in the way i answered the question about Kazakhistani friends and compare it to your response.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-07 07:13:44
November 07 2009 07:13 GMT
#104
or you can spew common sense as if you're intelligent for saying it in situations where it doesn't apply......is that a sign of confidence? if so ur confident as fuk prideneverdies
why so 진지해?
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
November 07 2009 07:13 GMT
#105
On November 07 2009 16:09 JohnColtrane wrote:
well she was pretty much anti-asian

but i didnt really take her seriously coz shes a ginger

Asking Asians who have a shop in an English speaking country to adjust their signs so that it includes English is not anti-Asian, but pro-sense.
PrideNeverDies
Profile Joined July 2009
Kazakhstan74 Posts
November 07 2009 07:13 GMT
#106
On November 07 2009 16:06 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2009 16:02 PrideNeverDies wrote:
On November 07 2009 15:58 Rekrul wrote:
On November 07 2009 15:56 PrideNeverDies wrote:
On November 07 2009 15:50 Rekrul wrote:
On November 07 2009 15:37 PrideNeverDies wrote:
how many non-chinese friends do you have haduken? i'm not talking acquaintances or people who smiled at you on the street, but people you hang out with regularly.

LOL at rekrul getting all happy that a taxi driver gave him compliments. That's like people who give huge tips to waitresses because they think they are flirting with them. Apparently it worked because rekrul gave the taxi driver a generous amount. Why do you think the taxi driver subtly gave you the message that you seem rich?


You make it seem as if I lost in that encounter instead of winning.


both sides win in that situation. you feel better about yourself and your prospect in a foreign country and the taxi driver goes home with a little more money to feed his family. however, you need to consider that it could be possible that the taxi driver might not be the most accurate indicator of korean feelings toward foreigners considering he stands to gain from complimenting you.


you realize tipping almost never happens in korea especially in cabs and especially by the white folk cuz they all broke?

no, you dont

el oh el


but you are "rich." if he had just stuck to complimenting your willingness to learn Korean, he might have been genuine. however the fact that he tried to emphasize that you were rich even though you obviously didn't think you looked the part, makes it seem more realistic you fell for some marketing 101.

hey guys a Korean taxidriver thinks rekrul is a good foreigner, therefore all Koreans must like all foreigners.


i never had any willingness to learn korean i'm just a natural linguistic genius

and fyi, rich people tip less, thats why they are rich. rich ppl r usually the biggest of jews

pun intended


taking the sarcastic way out when you lose a logical argument. do you always act this immature when you realize you are wrong on things? where did you learn this kind of behavior, from your peers or parents?
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
November 07 2009 07:15 GMT
#107
On November 07 2009 16:13 PrideNeverDies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2009 16:06 Rekrul wrote:
On November 07 2009 16:02 PrideNeverDies wrote:
On November 07 2009 15:58 Rekrul wrote:
On November 07 2009 15:56 PrideNeverDies wrote:
On November 07 2009 15:50 Rekrul wrote:
On November 07 2009 15:37 PrideNeverDies wrote:
how many non-chinese friends do you have haduken? i'm not talking acquaintances or people who smiled at you on the street, but people you hang out with regularly.

LOL at rekrul getting all happy that a taxi driver gave him compliments. That's like people who give huge tips to waitresses because they think they are flirting with them. Apparently it worked because rekrul gave the taxi driver a generous amount. Why do you think the taxi driver subtly gave you the message that you seem rich?


You make it seem as if I lost in that encounter instead of winning.


both sides win in that situation. you feel better about yourself and your prospect in a foreign country and the taxi driver goes home with a little more money to feed his family. however, you need to consider that it could be possible that the taxi driver might not be the most accurate indicator of korean feelings toward foreigners considering he stands to gain from complimenting you.


you realize tipping almost never happens in korea especially in cabs and especially by the white folk cuz they all broke?

no, you dont

el oh el


but you are "rich." if he had just stuck to complimenting your willingness to learn Korean, he might have been genuine. however the fact that he tried to emphasize that you were rich even though you obviously didn't think you looked the part, makes it seem more realistic you fell for some marketing 101.

hey guys a Korean taxidriver thinks rekrul is a good foreigner, therefore all Koreans must like all foreigners.


i never had any willingness to learn korean i'm just a natural linguistic genius

and fyi, rich people tip less, thats why they are rich. rich ppl r usually the biggest of jews

pun intended


taking the sarcastic way out when you lose a logical argument. do you always act this immature when you realize you are wrong on things? where did you learn this kind of behavior, from your peers or parents?


i can't lose an argument i never had

i've ridden cabs in korea thousands and thousands of times

i have never had a cab driver do/say anything to try and get a tip

i guess everyone except this guy forgot to take taxi cab marketting 101 lmao
why so 진지해?
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
November 07 2009 07:16 GMT
#108
BTW, I admit that I didn't read any of the OP material because I'm tired of all the race related threads here at TL.
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
November 07 2009 07:16 GMT
#109
On November 07 2009 16:13 Masamune wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2009 16:09 JohnColtrane wrote:
well she was pretty much anti-asian

but i didnt really take her seriously coz shes a ginger

Asking Asians who have a shop in an English speaking country to adjust their signs so that it includes English is not anti-Asian, but pro-sense.


i was referring to her other policies, not her asian sign hating

HEY MEYT
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-07 07:26:20
November 07 2009 07:17 GMT
#110
There is a difference between interacting with people by having to serve them (customer service at Walmart, for example) and actually being friends with them and learning about their culture. I went to Manchu Wok today, does that mean that all of a sudden I have this in-depth understanding of Asian culture because I spoke to the cashier?

As for having more friends (lets not talk about relatives being more of your own race...isn’t that a given?) of your own race, sure, I’m not saying it should be equal. However, based on the way you categorized all those groups in your earlier post, and by the cues I get from your profile alone, I can tell that you were one of those FOB Chinese kids at my highschool who never associated with anyone else but other FOBs. So you probably don't even know other races well enough to pass credible judgement on them. Just because your teacher was Polish doesn’t mean that all of a sudden you understand the racial dynamics of Slavic people, wtf.


You see, the difference between you and me is that I don't pretend to know everything about everything.

Maybe I am a FOB kid lol?, how is by being a Non-FOB kid make him any more/less credible? He still won't know a thing about other races outside of his social circle who may/may not consist of people who are genetically different than him.

I work, I study, I socialise with people who come into my company, I don't and can't possibly be selective. It's not like I have a switch in my head that turns me off everytime I see someone who is different to me, I can only judge people base on my past experiences be them lawyers, doctors, Indians, Chinese, whites whatever...

You clearly have no clue what racism is. Maybe you should hop on that boat and paddle back to China. Oh, and make sure to pick up some soap on the way back, because whenever I sit next to Chinese people on the bus, they stink. Hey, maybe I am stereotyping and I'm sure not all Chinese are like that but the fact remains that majority of them do because that's their way, maybe they have a different kind of cleanliness, I will never know. I heard Dove is good for your skin.



I didn't say that Indians should go back to Indian or whereever they come from did I? I remarked on their social courteousy and you somehow interpreted that as a racist.

Do Chinese stink? I would say that majority of people would agree with me when I say that Chinese generally takecare of their personal hygen and don't have any sort of strong body ordor.

Now, if you have stereotyped Chinese based on at least some notion of truth then i would have agreed with you. Bad example.
Rillanon.au
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
November 07 2009 07:18 GMT
#111
On November 07 2009 16:16 JohnColtrane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2009 16:13 Masamune wrote:
On November 07 2009 16:09 JohnColtrane wrote:
well she was pretty much anti-asian

but i didnt really take her seriously coz shes a ginger

Asking Asians who have a shop in an English speaking country to adjust their signs so that it includes English is not anti-Asian, but pro-sense.


i was referring to her other policies, not her asian sign hating


But that has nothing to do with why she was brought into the topic by haduken. Her other policies have nothing to do with my example on why all races should conform to the native language of the country they are in, at least when it comes to public advertisements.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
November 07 2009 07:19 GMT
#112
On November 07 2009 16:07 Masamune wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2009 16:06 JohnColtrane wrote:
pauline hanson was crucified for more than just her sign policies

That's what I thought, because crucifying someone politcally for stating that the signs of a shop should include the native language is stupid. Nice example haduken.


Nice reading skills. I did mention that it wasn't just the signs in previous posts.
Rillanon.au
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
November 07 2009 07:21 GMT
#113
On November 07 2009 16:18 Masamune wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2009 16:16 JohnColtrane wrote:
On November 07 2009 16:13 Masamune wrote:
On November 07 2009 16:09 JohnColtrane wrote:
well she was pretty much anti-asian

but i didnt really take her seriously coz shes a ginger

Asking Asians who have a shop in an English speaking country to adjust their signs so that it includes English is not anti-Asian, but pro-sense.


i was referring to her other policies, not her asian sign hating


But that has nothing to do with why she was brought into the topic by haduken. Her other policies have nothing to do with my example on why all races should conform to the native language of the country they are in, at least when it comes to public advertisements.


i didnt say it did :C

all i said was, she was crucified for more than the signs AND that is was because she was in general racist towards asians. thats all. i was just saying it because you said you didnt know who she was
HEY MEYT
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
November 07 2009 07:22 GMT
#114
On November 07 2009 16:11 PrideNeverDies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2009 16:01 haduken wrote:
i was just curious because when you were asked the question you deflected it in your reply without answering it.

also, it seems to me that you are projecting your insecurity about being socially handicapped to me. that fact that you brought those questions up and became extremely defensive over a question leads me to believe you have deeper issues you need to resolve.

do you regularly lack self-confidence and it is something brought on by your parents or self?


Maybe I do,maybe I don't, maybe I think that everyone should have a little insecurity in themselves so they can go on to be better human beings.

How am I suppose to judge that you want an answer instead of interpreting it as anything but a lame teenager retort.


insecurity could be a strong driving force toward success, but lacking confidence in social situations can be detrimental in aspects of life. it is up to you to guide your insecurity to the former instead of the latter.

also, if you perceive someone attacking you, then why resort to the same retorts? why not explain yourself and take the high road? any statement made can be perceived in many different ways and it is up to you to decide how that person meant it and how you should respond. see the difference in the way i answered the question about Kazakhistani friends and compare it to your response.


Well, one thing is that I'm not a saint, I don't always take the Moral HIGH GROUND what ever the fuck that is certainly I don't see the need to do that one an internet forum. lol?

Take a hint, I'm suppose to be the bigot stupid Asian in this thread, how can I react in anyother way?

^my response in your style ~~
Rillanon.au
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
November 07 2009 07:23 GMT
#115
On November 07 2009 16:17 haduken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2009 16:01 Masamune wrote:
I don't see how this is relevant. FYI, Pauline Hanson was an Australian fish'n'chips owner who became a politician said the same thing about Asian signs. She was crucified for her view (not just about the signs). So I do know a little bit about what you are saying.

I don’t know who this person is, but whatever the language, if you come to Canada, make sure the main sign is in English and/or French because that is the national language here. I’d imagine that is how it should be done anywhere else. There isn’t a problem with writing something in your native language, just make sure that English and/or French is included and is what is the most visible (or equally visible at the least).

I wasn't brought up in a Western country (Which explains my location) so I don't think it is outside the norm to have friends and relatives that are the same race as me. It doesn't mean that I don't interact with other groups, as a matter of fact I have to in a multicultural society.

So, I don't see the merits of your arguments sorry, Indian, Chinese, Whites, Blacks, Brown all associate with people of their own race more than other groups. This is a statistical fact.

So please, don't tell me to miggle with other people, I've heard enough of that line to know that it's the standard retort/response from people who don't know anything about racial relations.

There is a difference between interacting with people by having to serve them (customer service at Walmart, for example) and actually being friends with them and learning about their culture. I went to Manchu Wok today, does that mean that all of a sudden I have this in-depth understanding of Asian culture because I spoke to the cashier?

As for having more friends (lets not talk about relatives being more of your own race...isn’t that a given?) of your own race, sure, I’m not saying it should be equal. However, based on the way you categorized all those groups in your earlier post, and by the cues I get from your profile alone, I can tell that you were one of those FOB Chinese kids at my highschool who never associated with anyone else but other FOBs. So you probably don't even know other races well enough to pass credible judgement on them. Just because your teacher was Polish doesn’t mean that all of a sudden you understand the racial dynamics of Slavic people, wtf.

You see, the difference between you and me is that I don't pretend to know everything about everything.

Maybe I am a FOB kid lol?, how is by being a Non-FOB kid make him any more/less credible? He still won't know a thing about other races outside of his social circle who may/may not consist of people who are genetically different than him.

I work, I study, I socialise with people who come into my company, I don't and can't possibly be selective. It's not like I have a switch in my head that turns me off everytime I see someone who is is different to me, I can only judge people base on my past experiences be them lawyers, doctors, Indians, Chinese, whites whatever...

If we go by your standard then how can anyone be so credible on judging inter-racical relations? We can be one race and one race only. All we can really put forth is our own personal observation, don't sweat it, you don't see me posting everytime some one diss Chinese do you? (Well, I used to but that was like 5 years ago)[/qutoe]
Yes, no one can be 100% accurate in judging inter-racial relations, but you certainly can be 0%. You’re more closer to the latter, and that’s probably because your personal observation has no value whatsoever because I honestly believe you do not know very many people on a personal, positive relation, outside of your own race.

Now that you've mentioned it, I'm sure that my previous posts appeared to be racist but how about you define racism to me?

Tell me what is and when is it okay to saying something about a racial group and not come off as blatantly racist. Why is it that I can't rant about another racial group and not get blasted for what it is (A RANT), you don't see me calling Indian names do you? or did I say that I go around and punch Indians in the face because they are brown?

Or can I just say that Lebanese guys go around bashing people and up to no good? Or that Indians are not very courteous and considerate when interacting with other people? Hey, maybe I am stereotyping and I'm sure not all Indians are like that but the fact remains that majority of them do because that's their way, maybe they have a different kind of politness, I will never know.

You clearly have no clue what racism is. Maybe you should hop on that boat and paddle back to China. Oh, and make sure to pick up some soap on the way back, because whenever I sit next to Chinese people on the bus, they stink. Hey, maybe I am stereotyping and I'm sure not all Chinese are like that but the fact remains that majority of them do because that's their way, maybe they have a different kind of cleanliness, I will never know. I heard Dove is good for your skin.


I didn't say that Indians should go back to Indian or whereever they come from did I? I remarked on their social courteousy and you somehow interpreted that as a racist.

Do Chinese stink? I would say that majority of people would agree with me when I say that Chinese generally takecare of their personal hygen and don't have any sort of strong body ordor.

Now, if you have stereotyped Chinese based on at least some notion of truth then i would have agreed with you. Bad example.

Your notion of truth has no crediblity when it is based on your (already admitted) personal opinion. You make claims like they are facts. Do you even know why you are wrong? I'm not Kwark, so I will pass on bothering to dissect your rationalization, because it will probably bounce off your dense head, and be a waste of time. Plus I have a headache. I didn't realize reading retarded posts was a possible precurser to migraines, but I guess I should update wikipedia now.
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
November 07 2009 07:23 GMT
#116
On November 07 2009 16:19 haduken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2009 16:07 Masamune wrote:
On November 07 2009 16:06 JohnColtrane wrote:
pauline hanson was crucified for more than just her sign policies

That's what I thought, because crucifying someone politcally for stating that the signs of a shop should include the native language is stupid. Nice example haduken.


Nice reading skills. I did mention that it wasn't just the signs in previous posts.

Then why the hell did you bring it up if it has no relevance? Are you just that out of it?
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
November 07 2009 07:24 GMT
#117
are we gonna go back to talking about koreans now
HEY MEYT
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-07 07:25:39
November 07 2009 07:25 GMT
#118
nvm
HEY MEYT
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
November 07 2009 07:25 GMT
#119
On November 07 2009 16:21 JohnColtrane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2009 16:18 Masamune wrote:
On November 07 2009 16:16 JohnColtrane wrote:
On November 07 2009 16:13 Masamune wrote:
On November 07 2009 16:09 JohnColtrane wrote:
well she was pretty much anti-asian

but i didnt really take her seriously coz shes a ginger

Asking Asians who have a shop in an English speaking country to adjust their signs so that it includes English is not anti-Asian, but pro-sense.


i was referring to her other policies, not her asian sign hating


But that has nothing to do with why she was brought into the topic by haduken. Her other policies have nothing to do with my example on why all races should conform to the native language of the country they are in, at least when it comes to public advertisements.


i didnt say it did :C

all i said was, she was crucified for more than the signs AND that is was because she was in general racist towards asians. thats all. i was just saying it because you said you didnt know who she was

Thanks, I already kinda realized she was anti-asian because you can't possibly get in trouble for the sign policy thing. It just baffles me that haduken is still responding when he's a complete moron.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
November 07 2009 07:26 GMT
#120
koreans just need to be pushed a little bit in the right direction

last night trying to get a cab for me and some nerds

2 cabs appear to be stopping to pick us up then realize we are a bunch of whites and keep driving

then i decided to stand in the middle of the road and force the next one to stop. it worked.

see, they aren't racist, they are just intimidated by us
why so 진지해?
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