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Pony Express Issue 88: Aug. 10 - Aug. 17, 2009

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Last Edited: 2009-08-19 01:54:42
August 18 2009 04:31 GMT
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The 100100 Edition


Letter from the Editor

Dear Readers,

I forgot to send out PMs, so the other sections will be filled in later I guess. It'll be better exposure for PX if it gets bumped every so often :p

I won't be able to publish next week's PX on time, so if someone wants to do it then let me know. If not, I think I'll just do a two week edition the following Monday.

- Kau

Staff

Kau – Editor
Bloodyc0bbler – The Stove
Nyovne – IRC Comments
CharlieMurphy – Troll Booth Willie, The Shit Bus
NeverGG – Progamer Pics
Fontong – VOD of the Week
pangshai – Battle Report
ShoCkeyy – Interviews
Manifesto7 – Chalk talk, Memory Lane

Table of Contents

Serious Business and Funsies ................ p1
The Stove .............................................. p2
Chalk Talk ............................................. p3
Semi-Funny IRC Comment of the Week ... p4
Progamer Photos ................................... p5
Random Image of the Week .................... p6
A Walk Down Memory Lane .................... p7
Troll Booth Willie .................................... p8
The Shit Bus .......................................... p8
Best of Blogs ......................................... p9
Ban of the Week .................................... p10
Vod of the Week .................................... p11
Interviews .............................................. p12

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  • Down with docx

  • RIP Les Paul

  • Healthcare Reform in the US

  • How to Get A's 101

  • Biblical Studies


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  • Salt and Vinegar

  • Buy 100 for the price of 1

  • Confessions of a Shopaholic

  • TL Chat! Look for the mp3 in the News

  • How not to hype a showmatch


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Bonus!

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http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=99799

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=99616&currentpage=11

The Shit Bus

My phone is gone, kill me.
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=99898&currentpage=5

Unstoppable Troll build
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=99897

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  • GTR's 20000

  • konadora spams pictures as well as posts

  • Quirky Title

  • Tissues

  • Fakesteve in the paper

  • Singapore meetup

  • Why SC sucks

  • How to spoil a showmatch

  • NSFW Fanatacist blog

  • Korean Girls show up in every thread nowadays

  • Mouse speed map


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damenmofa was just temp banned for 2 weeks by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2008-09-29 23:56:41 and had 530 posts.

Reason: Just because fakesteve is being lenient doesn't mean I am going to be. He has earned his credibility to speak with authority on the subject, you have not. When you return, please be respectful of people who contribute, maybe even give it a shot sometime yourself.


Editor's note: I forgot which thread it was from, but it was an amusing exchange to read.

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Bisu. Iris. Just 2 months ago everyone would've awarded the bo5 series to bisu without batting an eyelid, with iris having been in an eternal slump since GGplay beat him in daum OSL, and bisu playing in peak form. But in the past 2 months, iris' play has shown signs of previous brilliance, even culminating in a 3-0 win over on-fire teammate, effort. With byzantium 3 as the battleground, a (according to TLPD) balanced map, this game will hopefully be pretty good.

So the game starts with bisu spawning in the bottom right position, and iris in the top right. Nothing exceptional happens in the early game except that bisu only scouts after starting his core, hinting at a possible aggressive 2 gate ranged goon build, which he does, in fact, go for, 2nd gate warping in before his 2nd pylon (10/15?). Unfortunately for bisu, a slight lapse in control allows iris to get his scout into his main, and he responds by starting a bunker at his nat immediately.

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Probably picking up a couple of tips from Nal_rA's games, bisu proxies a robotics facility right smack in the middle of the map. I'm guessing he's going reavers to do some kind of nat bust, since the proxy is in the middle of the map instead of at 12, but he might just be trying to proxy in some less common location to prevent it from being scouted, although his dragoons should be able to easily prevent SCVs from leaving the base. True enough, iris sends an SCV to 12 and it dies before reaching the centre of the map.

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Making the first aggressive move of the game, bisu sends his goons to iris' choke where they find his bunker, and immediately begin pummelling it from afar, range having completed a while ago. Iris quickly loses the bunker, and with a bit of micro from bisu, all his marines die as well, forcing iris to pull SCVs to fight. Luckily for him, siege mode and a 2nd tank arrive just in time, and bisu is forced to retreat.

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However, bisu has another trick up his sleeve, and with his shuttle just out, he begins elevatoring his dragoons into iris' main. With 5 goons, he runs in, takes out the SCV building a starport before heading towards iris' ramp where he catches the returning tanks, killing 3 of the 4, with the 4th surviving because of the up-ramp advantage. Another 2 goons are dropped in after the initial 5 to clear the way for bisu's reaver, but mismicro led to their deaths before doing significant damage.

As bisu's reaver arrives, things look grim for iris, with just 2 tanks for defense. A newly built wraith quickly spells the end to bisu's shuttle, but bisu successfully kills iris' tanks before his reaver dies to wraith. Piling on the pressure, bisu sends 2 goons to iris' nat where they outrange a defending bunker, and this is eventually supplemented by another goon and a reaver that has crawled its way over. Not wanting to piss away his advantage by getting overly aggressive, bisu decides to retreat ater a new tank from iris reinforces his defence.

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Reverting to the elevator trick that worked decently, bisu ferries his 6 or so goons into the irs' main again, This would've probably been game ending, given iris only had 3 tanks, a couple of marines and a wraith to defend against the 6 goons and a reaver. However, bisu screws up, engaging the terran army with a lone reaver and dragoon, while 4 dragoons attack buildings and SCVs in the north of iris' base. Iris cleans up pretty easily now, but in the meantime has lost the rax at his nat to 2 dragoons.

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First person views of both players now show that bisu has double expanded and is adding 2 gateways for 4, while iris has a pretty good number of tanks and looks to have retaken control of his main and nat. After the slight lull, bisu once again flies into iris' main with a third reaver, and for the third time, loses the shuttle to iris' wraith before doing significant damage, putting iris ahead now.

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A drop of 1tank 2vult by iris now lands in bisu's main, taking out a couple of defending dragoons and some probes before dying to dragoons. Despite the dropship threat, bisu has walled off his third at 6 with pylons, and also starts 2 forges at his nat in preparation for a long game. A slight mistake by iris gets his returning dropship sniped by 4 dragoons at his choke, and the commentators and crowd go strangely crazy.

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Iris now with 3 fac, chooses to push out to take his third base, as bisu cannons up his expansions and main, while getting zealot speed and pumping units from 6 gateways. A second drop of 4 vultures in bisu's main does close to no damage thanks to bisu's beautiful base construction that walls off entry to his mineral line. At this moment both players seem to be content with just sitting back and macroing huge armies, with iris making some initially unsuccessful attempts to harass with a dropship full of tanks and some ground vulture support, and bisu taking the bottom left main.

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In another lapse of attention, bisu misses 2dropship + vultures moving out of iris' territory, despite it flying past his observer. It heads down to the pylon walled 6 base, and vultures plant mines outside of the pylon wall while the tanks fly straight in and take out the defending cannon and some probes before bisu's zealots chase them away. Iris then pretends to fly to the bottom left main, dropping a tank there, and bisu brings his whole army there to defend. The remaining 3 tanks are then redropped on 6, where they take out a bunch of probes before zealots can once again chase them away.

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Bisu, sick of playing these silly waiting games decides to attack with a pretty big army into iris' waiting tanks and mines. Some excellent storms blanket a large portion of iris' tanks, but bisu's army fails to break the defense, being forced to retreat to 3 tanks and a handful of mines. In the meantime iris establishes the 3 base, and begins another command centre to float to 12, playing a slow and steady 200/200 3/3 terran game.

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With arbiters out and replacing his army from 9 or so gates, bisu now tries to harass iris' mineral line, with moderate success. Iris, similarly, moves out again with 2 dropships of tanks and vultures on the ground, and heads for bisu's newly warped in nat at bottom left. While the drop itself does little probe damage, it forces bisu to send his army through a minefield, losing some zealots before the dropships ferry the tanks to safety.

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Bisu's army now busies itself with taking out iris' 12 base, hitting it slightly before a strong defense it set up. Stasis and some mines take out a number of defending units, but with tanks on the cliff over looking the 12 base, and more units coming to defend, it looks like the protoss army would be forced to retreat. However, bisu sends his army straight at the cliff, and with some excellent storms, he takes out more tanks, and retreats to try and finish off the CC at 12.

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In the meantime, Iris flies his dropships behind bisu's bottom left nat mineral line and takes out the defending cannons. Bisu, not wanting to pull his army back to defend, instead sends it straight up into iris' min only, where a large number of tanks await, laying waste to the dragoon heavy remnants of bisu's army. However, bisu cleans up the drop at his bottom left base, and warps a nexus in at the top left base as well.

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With most of bisu's army dead, iris chooses to move out now with a group of tanks, 2/2 upgrades, and a group or so of vultures. With a mainly zealot/templar army, bisu knows that he will be unable to make it through iris' mines, so he instead flies an aribter into iris' army and recalls. With a significantly smaller army, it looks like defeat is inevitable, but bisu casts some fantastic storms and takes out a large chunk of iris' tanks, and some reinforcements from gateways at the bottom left main put iris' units in the retreat before reinforcements join up.

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Having reinforced with more vultures, iris looked to end the game by pushing into bisu's expansions at bottom left. However, another recall by bisu takes out iris' army, and bisu 's growing unit mix of dragoon/templar/zealot/archon/arbiter together with 3 running bases looks strong enough to stop the immediate threat.

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We are now treated to a first person view of bisu, where he watches probes at top left get slaughtered by a group of vultures before his cannons warp in. More interesting though, is that bisu's army is in the centre, and he is preparing to attack through a minefield, without any observers.

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The hallucinations run in and activate the mines, but unfortunately for bisu, iris' army was not there to drag the mines into, and the returning army from 12 simply came back and took out bisu's army, that had done nothing but take out iris' nat command centre (-1 scan), and some units.

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Not wanting to commit his main army to a push, iris flies another drop out to bisu's bottom left base, and with no observer, bisu is unable to stop the attack without significant losses, so instead chooses to sacrifice his remaining mining bases for a final attack on iris' fortification. The hallucination attempt goes badly this time, with a single mine taking out most of the hallucinations before they even reach the terran army. Bisu does eventually break through and gets into iris' main, but new units force him back.

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Bisu instead heads for the 12 base, and forces a lift off, but things start looking bleak for bisu as his last probes get sniped off by vultures from iris who still has 3 mining at full tilt. However, a bunch of templar make their way to 3, and storm the shit out of the SCVs there, leaving both players with no running bases. Having saved the SCVs from 12, iris sends those scvs and sieges his army up at 3, while sending another vulture raid that takes out bisu's 3 mining probes at the bottom left nat. Ascertaining that bisu's army was weaker than his, iris unsieges and attacks with his 6 or so tanks with some goliaths, and bisu GGs.

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Question of the Week
How did you like TL Chat?
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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
August 18 2009 04:34 GMT
#2
100100!
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 18 2009 04:34 GMT
#3
Looking forward to the others being covered soon

I didn't get to listen to the chat.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
August 18 2009 04:39 GMT
#4
001001!!!

needs more stuff kau!!! D:
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
August 18 2009 04:40 GMT
#5
I'll pm you my stuff when I get home from work.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
August 18 2009 04:42 GMT
#6
oh shit we reached 100100 hahaha
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
August 18 2009 05:15 GMT
#7
Due to lack of much else, I actually looked through the blog list quite thoroughly, and found some things that I am appalled at myself for missing. I like the new style.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
August 18 2009 05:43 GMT
#8
Great job as always, Kau
theron[wdt]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States395 Posts
August 18 2009 07:09 GMT
#9
epic as expected. thanks Kau
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
August 18 2009 07:30 GMT
#10
lol 100100
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 07:32:54
August 18 2009 07:32 GMT
#11
wow, where is the rest? Kau seems to be overwhelmed. Help him out people!
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
August 18 2009 07:45 GMT
#12
good job Kau for the rest we gonna slap arround Nyo should get off the girls ...
LeperKahn
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Romania1839 Posts
August 18 2009 07:58 GMT
#13
The chat was awesome. I suggest more in the future for they seem rather simple.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
August 18 2009 08:09 GMT
#14
Yo at least spell my account right ); hater
Peace~
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 18 2009 08:15 GMT
#15
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..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
August 18 2009 08:17 GMT
#16
Disgusting. You are a troll. Urgh.
Peace~
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
August 18 2009 08:22 GMT
#17
Fanta is a great drink.
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
August 18 2009 08:23 GMT
#18
Race's blog makes it in there twice haha.

And I also think the ban of the week was from a live report thread.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
August 18 2009 09:16 GMT
#19
wow i missed fanatacist's blog. it's a really good read. everyone should take a look sometime.
#1 midas fan
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
August 18 2009 09:35 GMT
#20
Haha, awesome as always.
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
August 18 2009 09:50 GMT
#21
On August 18 2009 13:34 Grobyc wrote:
Looking forward to the others being covered soon

I didn't get to listen to the chat.

Download it.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 18 2009 10:13 GMT
#22
cm doing the shit bus is only slightly less ironic than raithed doing it
posting on liquid sites in current year
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
August 18 2009 11:16 GMT
#23
race's thread...

lol
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
peetah
Profile Joined August 2005
Sweden88 Posts
August 18 2009 11:22 GMT
#24
How to find old Pony Express Issues? And is there any way to subscribe to them, so they can come to one by mail?

Kudos to all the people who did the great writing!
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 11:27:47
August 18 2009 11:27 GMT
#25
Wait so...CM used the Troll Booth to brag about his score in a flash game?

what the fuck
✌
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
August 18 2009 13:19 GMT
#26
On August 18 2009 20:22 peetah wrote:
How to find old Pony Express Issues? And is there any way to subscribe to them, so they can come to one by mail?

Kudos to all the people who did the great writing!


Here you go!


Anyway, I can't wait to see the other sections filled out. This week's blogs are some of the best in a while. :D
Chains none
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
August 18 2009 14:09 GMT
#27
Added progamer photos, battle report (which he did last week but I forgot, sorry ^^), and another random image + Show Spoiler [cough cough] +
shameless self promotion
.

@fanata haha my bad

@JWD I think there was a post lower down about protoss not having multitask or something.

@peetah just check general every Monday night/Tuesday
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
August 18 2009 14:10 GMT
#28
*cough cough* who.. *cough*
POGGERS
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
August 18 2009 14:11 GMT
#29
On August 18 2009 23:09 Kau wrote:
Added progamer photos, battle report (which he did last week but I forgot, sorry ^^), and another random image + Show Spoiler [cough cough] +
shameless self promotion
.

@fanata haha my bad

@JWD I think there was a post lower down about protoss not having multitask or something.

@peetah just check general every Monday night/Tuesday


Kau could you take the last two photos out of the spoiler cut and put them before it please. No one will even look if they're all hidden under the cut.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 18 2009 14:31 GMT
#30
On August 18 2009 17:23 Hyde wrote:
Race's blog makes it in there twice haha.

And I also think the ban of the week was from a live report thread.


race's blog was epic fail
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
August 18 2009 16:00 GMT
#31
On August 18 2009 23:31 StorrZerg wrote:
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On August 18 2009 17:23 Hyde wrote:
Race's blog makes it in there twice haha.

And I also think the ban of the week was from a live report thread.


race's blog was epic fail

Almost as bad as this.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
August 18 2009 16:04 GMT
#32
CM's "joke" in that thread that is "troll" is the fact that he faked the score and then people started praising him and saying it was because he played Zerg. Or something like that.
Peace~
Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5223 Posts
August 18 2009 16:19 GMT
#33
Nyovne needs to get his ass on the irc comments. What the hell you damn slacker.
WGT<3. Former CL/NW head admin.
pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
August 18 2009 16:49 GMT
#34
On August 18 2009 23:09 Kau wrote:
Added progamer photos, battle report (which he did last week but I forgot, sorry ^^)

lol, i actually demanded that he use it this week so that it'd get more views. btw nevergg, i really like this pic, it kinda gives the booth some "life", like you can see it hoping that the next guy who walks in will win the next game.

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#1 midas fan
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-31 01:50:20
August 31 2009 01:48 GMT
#35
bump?

i searched and didn't see any more recent pony express, and it's the 31st. does anyone have any info about it? I love pony expresssssssss
On August 18 2009 18:50 Kennigit wrote:
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On August 18 2009 13:34 Grobyc wrote:
Looking forward to the others being covered soon

I didn't get to listen to the chat.

Download it.

Ahh I didn't know it was out on mp3. Got it now!
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
August 31 2009 01:50 GMT
#36
I think Kau was busy last week, might have something up this week or next. Its summer man!
ModeratorGodfather
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 31 2009 01:57 GMT
#37
I guess I'll just have to wait then.

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Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
August 31 2009 02:13 GMT
#38
He usually posts on monday night our time, and it is currently sunday night, so there might be one tomorrow if he is back home.

And shut up mani it isn't summer anymore I've been back at school for 2 weeks.
LeperKahn
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Romania1839 Posts
August 31 2009 02:14 GMT
#39
On August 31 2009 11:13 Lemonwalrus wrote:
And shut up mani it isn't summer anymore I've been back at school for 2 weeks.


Did anyone else get really exited when they saw this bumped? T_T
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
August 31 2009 02:14 GMT
#40
haha, sucker. My school is back in session too, but due to my awesome schedule I only teach once this week :D
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
August 31 2009 02:25 GMT
#41
On August 31 2009 11:14 LeperKahn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2009 11:13 Lemonwalrus wrote:
And shut up mani it isn't summer anymore I've been back at school for 2 weeks.


Did anyone else get really exited when they saw this bumped? T_T


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