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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
July 23 2009 15:50 GMT
#61
Can someone pm me a key if possible

seems like this would be pretty fun (x dota player here lol)
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
July 23 2009 15:50 GMT
#62
it sounds like a really fun game but i was never very into (or good at) dota. all the server functioins (% leaver etc..) sounds really really good. hopefully bnet2.0 will be good.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
July 23 2009 16:15 GMT
#63
On July 24 2009 00:34 Shade692003 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2009 23:56 Velr wrote:
I don't know. Probably i just don't like it for it being tooo close to DOTA. It's like a carbon copy with diffrent graphics (which i find "to clean/steril").
The controlls were fine.
The Shop was fine.
It felt fine... But i just don't saw a point in the whole game... It's like someone would copy starcraft and change a few things just to make easy money...

I will check back at the end of the Beta if it feels better then. But right now? Dota is clearly the superior game (and i don't play on a very high level).


How is Dota ''clearly the superior game'' when HoN is pretty much DotA updated for 2009? Can you reconnect when you leave a game in DotA? Is there a matchmaking service for DotA? Stats?

Stats aren't a revolutionary idea. In fact they are more of an excuse for scrubs who thinks kills are everything to kick really good team players that enjoy playing support heroes. The shop interface of HON needs to be completely reworked and be made more dota-like, but give you the ability to purchase an item outright (i.e. buy a bracer already assembled if you can afford it).
The contrast in the game is seriously fucked up - everything is way too dark, but shiny and obscured by post-processing effects. Not only contrast, but the interface as well.
Blizzard games by nature have an interface that's as close to perfection as it gets in the gaming world. The problem with HON is that the interface uses different size icons for everything as well as different size fonts.

Skill icons when upgrading are retardedly tiny. Item icons in the shop are retardedly big, while being too small when in your inventory. Also apparently damage and mana cost are less important than some shitty ripped off description, because they put it in the smallest font possible.

The only thing clearly superior to Dota is the reconnect feature. The streamlined hero animations are nice, but by no means something to drool over.

This game has potential, but it needs SO much work. I hope their devs are listening and listening well.
namufot
Profile Joined May 2009
United States18 Posts
July 23 2009 16:42 GMT
#64
i have plenty of beta keys, PM me if you are interested and haven't been able to get one yet.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10924 Posts
July 23 2009 16:48 GMT
#65
On July 24 2009 00:34 Shade692003 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2009 23:56 Velr wrote:
I don't know. Probably i just don't like it for it being tooo close to DOTA. It's like a carbon copy with diffrent graphics (which i find "to clean/steril").
The controlls were fine.
The Shop was fine.
It felt fine... But i just don't saw a point in the whole game... It's like someone would copy starcraft and change a few things just to make easy money...

I will check back at the end of the Beta if it feels better then. But right now? Dota is clearly the superior game (and i don't play on a very high level).


How is Dota ''clearly the superior game'' when HoN is pretty much DotA updated for 2009? Can you reconnect when you leave a game in DotA? Is there a matchmaking service for DotA? Stats?


Simple:

Dota is polished.
This isn't.

And everything is way to dark.
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
July 23 2009 17:27 GMT
#66
On July 24 2009 01:15 Sadistx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2009 00:34 Shade692003 wrote:
On July 23 2009 23:56 Velr wrote:
I don't know. Probably i just don't like it for it being tooo close to DOTA. It's like a carbon copy with diffrent graphics (which i find "to clean/steril").
The controlls were fine.
The Shop was fine.
It felt fine... But i just don't saw a point in the whole game... It's like someone would copy starcraft and change a few things just to make easy money...

I will check back at the end of the Beta if it feels better then. But right now? Dota is clearly the superior game (and i don't play on a very high level).


How is Dota ''clearly the superior game'' when HoN is pretty much DotA updated for 2009? Can you reconnect when you leave a game in DotA? Is there a matchmaking service for DotA? Stats?

Stats aren't a revolutionary idea. In fact they are more of an excuse for scrubs who thinks kills are everything to kick really good team players that enjoy playing support heroes. The shop interface of HON needs to be completely reworked and be made more dota-like, but give you the ability to purchase an item outright (i.e. buy a bracer already assembled if you can afford it).
The contrast in the game is seriously fucked up - everything is way too dark, but shiny and obscured by post-processing effects. Not only contrast, but the interface as well.
Blizzard games by nature have an interface that's as close to perfection as it gets in the gaming world. The problem with HON is that the interface uses different size icons for everything as well as different size fonts.

Skill icons when upgrading are retardedly tiny. Item icons in the shop are retardedly big, while being too small when in your inventory. Also apparently damage and mana cost are less important than some shitty ripped off description, because they put it in the smallest font possible.

The only thing clearly superior to Dota is the reconnect feature. The streamlined hero animations are nice, but by no means something to drool over.

This game has potential, but it needs SO much work. I hope their devs are listening and listening well.


Stats are only retarded if you let yourself judge people by their stats. Otherwise it's just another analyzing tool. And sorry, but the shop interface is just plain better, all your ranting is pretty much DotA ingrain, and you are in the process of being acustomed to something different. In DotA, I have to check the recipe, read the items ingredients, and have to find all those items by hand in 5 different npc shops while remembering all the names. In HoN you simply click the recipe, and you can buy all the items directly, not even mentionning the shop has hotkeys. Items icon size are pretty much the same size as the ones in WC3, again that's ''omg it's different I,m not yet used to it unlike DoTA which I played for years'' syndrome.


On my first game of HoN, I had pretty much the same mindset as you had, I thought everything was way too small and placed in wierd spots (exp bar, lvl skills, gold) but after a couple of games I realized how much better and more streamlined it actually is.
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
July 23 2009 17:29 GMT
#67
On July 23 2009 09:27 Torenhire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2009 04:15 Durak wrote:
On July 23 2009 03:00 Railz wrote:
S2 are an amazing group of developers, shitty marketers =P


I disagree. I played the original Savage and it was great. However, S2Games really went downhill with Savage 2. They're really slow at developing and rush their releases. The development is "slow" because even though they patch quickly, the patches are really bad. The biggest problem is that the head dev, S2Maliken, overpatches so that even after the game is great, he ruins it by changing the combat system entirely.

Anyway, I haven't played this game yet. You can expect that even if you really like it, the game may change entirely with some later patch and ruin it for you.



The original Savage was freakin awesome.

It's actually free-ware now, but no one plays it anymore... I really wish another game like it would release.

Savage 1 was like Starcraft, except there was the guy on the overhead view building stuff and making units/research, but your SCVs, Marines, Siege Tanks were all controlled by players... you could listen to your commander or tell him to go blow a goat.

ah, the good ol days.


Savage 1 is still played. Right now there are ~60 people on. There was also a giant community made graphics overhaul. Check out newerth.com.

Sorry for being offtopic but Savage 1 is a really solid game and you can still play it.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
July 23 2009 17:34 GMT
#68
Beta guys, beta!

Starcraft in Beta phase:

[image loading]
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
BisuBoi
Profile Joined February 2009
United States350 Posts
July 23 2009 17:36 GMT
#69
looool epic pic zoler!

And HoN is FUN. I'm having a blast. Got right into it and went 8-1, 12-3 in 2 games. Lol it's exactly like Dota with a few minor variations haha
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
July 23 2009 17:43 GMT
#70
On July 24 2009 02:34 Zoler wrote:
Beta guys, beta!

Starcraft in Beta phase:

[image loading]


this is like pre-alpha SC... that is not beta sc.

but point taken,
KingofHearts
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Japan562 Posts
July 23 2009 17:47 GMT
#71
where to download this game?
moshi moshi~
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-23 18:52:05
July 23 2009 17:51 GMT
#72
On July 24 2009 02:43 omninmo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2009 02:34 Zoler wrote:
Beta guys, beta!

Starcraft in Beta phase:

[image loading]


this is like pre-alpha SC... that is not beta sc.

but point taken,


maybe it's from alpha I'm not totally sure sorry this IS from the beta tho

[image loading]


look at the overlord and the evolution chamber wtf?? and nydus pit ??!?!?! and look at the upgrade icons whaat... AND A FRICKIN NUKE ICON WHATTHESHIT o.o

btw also notice how far away the larvaes is from the hatchery and the creep isn't spreading at all!

Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
July 23 2009 17:56 GMT
#73
it eats nukes. duh.
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
Numba
Profile Joined March 2009
United States76 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 02:21:57
July 24 2009 00:00 GMT
#74
I have three keys without anyone to give them to.

PM me with your email if you need one.

*edit* 0 left
Eben
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States769 Posts
July 24 2009 00:01 GMT
#75
So this is a totally different game that doesn't use WC3?

Interesting, might have to try it out.
Jawnta
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden1 Post
July 24 2009 01:13 GMT
#76
if any1 still got a key and are willing to share it im glad to have one
Diablo666
Profile Joined October 2005
United States306 Posts
July 24 2009 01:35 GMT
#77
I'm a huge dota fan wish i could get a key to try out this game.. pm a key please!
No soy mala yerba, solo yerba en mal lugar
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
July 24 2009 11:59 GMT
#78
arg even i need a beta key, i will come to check this thread often ^^
KrAzYfoOL
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia3037 Posts
July 24 2009 12:53 GMT
#79
The fact that you can ping 300 and your hero still reacts almost instantly is enough to give it a fucking huuuge leg up over dota.
It's better to burn out than to fade away
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
July 24 2009 13:18 GMT
#80
true, there is no delay at all!
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