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Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
December 24 2012 23:20 GMT
#4101
On December 25 2012 03:27 luckylefty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 15:35 Hakker wrote:
On December 21 2012 18:54 zhurai wrote:
On December 21 2012 18:28 Bobbias wrote:
On December 21 2012 16:59 zhurai wrote:
On December 21 2012 16:32 Flameling wrote:
On December 21 2012 15:24 gzboli wrote:
Maps now have a load time and no video mode removed

Don't forget the nice message they give you if you deleted the background
Btw, you can still disable video through the 'Fun Spoilers' that show up at the bottom.

note to self, make a program that replaces any bg file with a full black screen.

actually that'll be pretty funny, although everything I write nowadays is in python, so idk how many people would actually use it


I wrote one in C#.. then I tried using a backgroundworker and my code broke, and I was too lazy to actually debug it. Apparently osu doesnt care if the image is a jpg but renamed as a png or anything.

I also have python 2.6 and 3.3 installed.

Only thing is that if peppy hashes the whole beatmap folder, he'd be able to detect if the background had been replaced too.

Also: fuck peppy. He claims he supports competitive osu, but actively steers things towards casual gaming with his choices. He doesnt want to support actual competitive osu, he wants to support competitive osu that works the way he decides it does. He's like kespa in a sense: always trying to make sure he has control over every aspect he can (or by extension, the mappers having control). I've written more than enough on his BS already though.

I wonder if the mappers really care if the bg is taken out or not in the first place

You can pass on any mode – using nofail if you wish – as long as you get a score.

... too bad relax doesn't work as a "mode" -.-
(or auto)


I dunno as someone that spends the majority of my osu time mapping (though I hesitate to call myself a mapper because im terrible at it) It Is kind of annoying when people tell me they disable/dim things that I put in the map because it does take a bit of effort and I do go to lengths to make sure things are readable.

A lot of sbs can be really cool, and make playing the map way more exciting without being distracting. Look at any of Vals maps. Even when im going for scores ill play dance number or mythologia or talent shredder with sb because they'r straight up fun. Siriru and a few other mappers do really cool sbs too, and its hard not to appreciate the sheer technical commitment it takes to create complex storyboards using peppys shitty tools.

Though map forced skins are bullshit really, fuck that.


I don't understand why you care how someone else chooses to enjoy the game? Everyone should be required to play sc2 in high graphics then so they can enjoy the artwork. Obviously not, my point is why does everyone else feel the need to impose their will on how I play the game?

If mappers really had such an issue with it, I would love to donate directly to them and pay for black BG's because I like the songs and way they map, not because of a freaking BG they google'd. If I wanted to watch an anime, I would go do that. I play the game because I like the game-play, why anyone else cares what I have on my screen is beyond me. On the osu forums, the funniest thing is that people who try and impose their will on others seem to not even play the game. If they do, they play normal songs where they have time to stare at a storyboard while playing.

TL;DR: I would love to pay mappers to just have a black BG option for the hardest difficultly


That is pretty much how I feel. While the BG and SB might be nice, and well put together, and give a certain personality to the map, if it detracts from my ability to enjoy myself playing osu, then there should be no reason to stop me from making the changes I need to make to enjoy myself better. I don't play osu to look at a background, or an SB, I pay it to move my mouse and hit buttons in a synchronized fashion with the music. To me the real personality of a map is the rhythm and the note placement that make up the actual map. Everything else is incidental.
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
December 25 2012 04:01 GMT
#4102
On December 25 2012 08:20 Bobbias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 03:27 luckylefty wrote:
On December 22 2012 15:35 Hakker wrote:
On December 21 2012 18:54 zhurai wrote:
On December 21 2012 18:28 Bobbias wrote:
On December 21 2012 16:59 zhurai wrote:
On December 21 2012 16:32 Flameling wrote:
On December 21 2012 15:24 gzboli wrote:
Maps now have a load time and no video mode removed

Don't forget the nice message they give you if you deleted the background
Btw, you can still disable video through the 'Fun Spoilers' that show up at the bottom.

note to self, make a program that replaces any bg file with a full black screen.

actually that'll be pretty funny, although everything I write nowadays is in python, so idk how many people would actually use it


I wrote one in C#.. then I tried using a backgroundworker and my code broke, and I was too lazy to actually debug it. Apparently osu doesnt care if the image is a jpg but renamed as a png or anything.

I also have python 2.6 and 3.3 installed.

Only thing is that if peppy hashes the whole beatmap folder, he'd be able to detect if the background had been replaced too.

Also: fuck peppy. He claims he supports competitive osu, but actively steers things towards casual gaming with his choices. He doesnt want to support actual competitive osu, he wants to support competitive osu that works the way he decides it does. He's like kespa in a sense: always trying to make sure he has control over every aspect he can (or by extension, the mappers having control). I've written more than enough on his BS already though.

I wonder if the mappers really care if the bg is taken out or not in the first place

You can pass on any mode – using nofail if you wish – as long as you get a score.

... too bad relax doesn't work as a "mode" -.-
(or auto)


I dunno as someone that spends the majority of my osu time mapping (though I hesitate to call myself a mapper because im terrible at it) It Is kind of annoying when people tell me they disable/dim things that I put in the map because it does take a bit of effort and I do go to lengths to make sure things are readable.

A lot of sbs can be really cool, and make playing the map way more exciting without being distracting. Look at any of Vals maps. Even when im going for scores ill play dance number or mythologia or talent shredder with sb because they'r straight up fun. Siriru and a few other mappers do really cool sbs too, and its hard not to appreciate the sheer technical commitment it takes to create complex storyboards using peppys shitty tools.

Though map forced skins are bullshit really, fuck that.


I don't understand why you care how someone else chooses to enjoy the game? Everyone should be required to play sc2 in high graphics then so they can enjoy the artwork. Obviously not, my point is why does everyone else feel the need to impose their will on how I play the game?

If mappers really had such an issue with it, I would love to donate directly to them and pay for black BG's because I like the songs and way they map, not because of a freaking BG they google'd. If I wanted to watch an anime, I would go do that. I play the game because I like the game-play, why anyone else cares what I have on my screen is beyond me. On the osu forums, the funniest thing is that people who try and impose their will on others seem to not even play the game. If they do, they play normal songs where they have time to stare at a storyboard while playing.

TL;DR: I would love to pay mappers to just have a black BG option for the hardest difficultly


That is pretty much how I feel. While the BG and SB might be nice, and well put together, and give a certain personality to the map, if it detracts from my ability to enjoy myself playing osu, then there should be no reason to stop me from making the changes I need to make to enjoy myself better. I don't play osu to look at a background, or an SB, I pay it to move my mouse and hit buttons in a synchronized fashion with the music. To me the real personality of a map is the rhythm and the note placement that make up the actual map. Everything else is incidental.


Amen to that.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-26 21:48:20
December 26 2012 21:45 GMT
#4103
On December 22 2012 11:37 Flameling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 20:10 Yorbon wrote:
Oh, and btw, i saw people talking about skins a moment ago. At the moment i have the 'cartoon' skin with a changed cursor. But what annoys me a little bit is that there are some kind of stars (?) dropping out of the cursor, and whenever i use z/x, the stars shoot out of the cursor left/right. Is there any way to stop this?

edit: you can't see it on the picture above, because it only happens when i'm in a map.

The stars that come out of the cursor I believe are named as star2.png in your osu skin folder.
really? Thanks a lot!

edit: Hm, couldn't find such a file in my skin folder. I also checked the other files and none of them look anything like the stars. Thanks for the suggestion though
MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
December 26 2012 22:25 GMT
#4104
If there's no file then I think it defaults to the default skin star2.png, not sure but I think that's the case

So just make a transparent star2.png and add it to your skin folder and that should fix it
Tankz123
Profile Joined December 2011
Denmark228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-26 22:51:13
December 26 2012 22:44 GMT
#4105
so, a new score im happy with - first time i passed this, and with tapping only, outside the few panic areas.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

:D

edit - and this in first try:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


now, if only i could actually hit the shit reliably instead of having half my hits missing
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
December 27 2012 01:42 GMT
#4106
Just noticed that BGs go to pitch black at the extreme of the dim bar now.

Looks like he caved on that one?
Flameling
Profile Joined July 2010
United States413 Posts
December 27 2012 01:58 GMT
#4107
On December 27 2012 10:42 ThaZenith wrote:
Just noticed that BGs go to pitch black at the extreme of the dim bar now.

Looks like he caved on that one?

Yeah, seems like he allows for dim 100% now
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
December 27 2012 22:26 GMT
#4108
On December 27 2012 10:58 Flameling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 10:42 ThaZenith wrote:
Just noticed that BGs go to pitch black at the extreme of the dim bar now.

Looks like he caved on that one?

Yeah, seems like he allows for dim 100% now

randomly when there's pauses in the map (dunno how short of a pause, because it happens for a split second which is disorienting), it becomes like no dim at all

ex: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/201463
at around... well after the Hard's spinner/ when it starts to say "meguru meguru~..."

ex 2: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/194406

there's more but I don't feel like finding all of them through my songs.
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Hakker
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1360 Posts
December 28 2012 14:52 GMT
#4109
anyone wanna play my map i dunno

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/70102

+ Show Spoiler +
this ranking process is a pain
MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
December 28 2012 20:11 GMT
#4110
On December 28 2012 23:52 Hakker wrote:
anyone wanna play my map i dunno

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/70102

+ Show Spoiler +
this ranking process is a pain


You need to resnap all notes in Start and Middle
Hakker
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1360 Posts
December 28 2012 20:19 GMT
#4111
On December 29 2012 05:11 MegaManEXE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 23:52 Hakker wrote:
anyone wanna play my map i dunno

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/70102

+ Show Spoiler +
this ranking process is a pain


You need to resnap all notes in Start and Middle

Lol woops
Yuugo
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands65 Posts
December 29 2012 12:43 GMT
#4112
I'm really liking your map to be honest, it's better than most maps that get ranked nowadays.

(good thing you fixed that offset :p)
Tankz123
Profile Joined December 2011
Denmark228 Posts
December 29 2012 13:35 GMT
#4113
i really liked the map, the second weird slider fucked me up though lol.

on another note, story of my life recently:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


so close, yet so far.
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
December 29 2012 16:34 GMT
#4114
I'm improving at mania a lot. I should try to get a good video of some of what I play that isn't ranked/widely available.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 22:15:29
December 29 2012 21:53 GMT
#4115
Hehe, a few days ago I randomly decided to download like 6 of val0108's maps after playing some of 'with a dance number' and 'mythologia's end'. Amazing how easy a lot of other maps seem, after you've seriously played maps of similar difficulty to those 2.
I have to say i'm not passing any of them, although some very close.

@ MegaMenEXE: thanks! i'll try that.

Oh, and btw, sometimes i play maps i used to play, because i want to know how much i've improved. When i'm nearly fc'ing them, i feel like i have to, while sometimes getting a lot of pp for it. Now i am like in the top 100 of the netherlands, but i still feel like i'm very bad. Is that because i've been 'farming' too much, or does everybody do that? Edit: Or is it bad to pay any attention to it at all? Edit2: For anyone interested, my osu account is yorickblabla.
(i checked, and at the moment of typing, i'm no. 101, it seems to fluctuate quite a bit)

Edit3: Hakker, i downloaded your map, it's very nice!
I have to say, i don't really like the song, but the map flows very natural with it. I'm not really in a position to critisize anyone, but i really like beatmaps that get along well with the music, if you know what i mean. If the music holds back (i don't know how to properly say it in english), i like it if a beatmap slows down, and the other way round. I had this feeling with about 80 or 90 percent of your map, but not everywhere. Atm i am too lazy to give examples, but i can if feel it'd be appropriate. I hope this was helpful
Hakker
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1360 Posts
December 29 2012 23:19 GMT
#4116
ah wow im glad you guys were able to enjoy it x.x

haha yeah i know some parts are still a little awkward. .. if you get a chance yorbon i could even give you some cute star points or something >>
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
December 29 2012 23:39 GMT
#4117
On December 30 2012 01:34 Bobbias wrote:
I'm improving at mania a lot. I should try to get a good video of some of what I play that isn't ranked/widely available.

/agreed
Yuugo
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands65 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-30 00:29:46
December 30 2012 00:29 GMT
#4118
To be honest the country rankings are pretty dumb. I´m currently rank 32 of the Netherlands but I know people that are above me that aren´t able to play some maps I can play, they´re just better and getting pp. On the other hand I know people that are below me are way better than me. (besides, we suck as a country anyway... only that the our top 5-6 players are actually damn good, and those aren't even the top 5 pp ranked.)

I'm caring less about my rank every day and realizing more and more how pointless of a stat it is. Hell I'd even go as far as to say accuracy would be a better rating system, but then you can't look at average acc.

The point I really want to make is: Please please please do not, ever, change what you play from what you want to play simply because of a community view. With that I mean things like 'score farming', 'pp farming', 'high playcount' , 'bad accuracy' etc. Play what you're having fun with, not what you a community believes is the 'right' way to play
MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
December 30 2012 02:37 GMT
#4119
And that's why I only play by myself in offline mode now

Playing for rank is boring
Aqo[il]
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Israel183 Posts
December 30 2012 08:43 GMT
#4120
lol @ ranks on osu

PP is a system that shows how much somebody farms. You don't get PP from passing boot [Shoe] with HR or passing Mythologia with HR, you get PP from FCing a random [Hard] diff to some anime tv size song.
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