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My tip on pushing yourself as often as possible works at any skill level btw. I think it works because of how your brain constantly attempts to adapt to things. If you play harder things, your brain will expect harder stuff, and everything else gets easier feeling. Same with moving up to faster ARs. What I think a lot of people don't get though is that when you hit a point where you stop improving quickly or at all, that doesnt necessarily mean you've hit your absolute maximum skill. You've hit a wall, a point of non-improvement because the step to the next level of skill requires improvement in some part of your play that is more difficult for you to improve. I've hit and passed 1 wall in osu already (moving from playing hards and easy insanes to playing almost exclusively insanes), and I'm at another wall (going from the standard fare of insanes to the legitimately hard ones, and DTing easier stuff)
A good sense of rhythm goes a long way in music games. Understanding music also helps a lot. When I started I was mouse only (I didnt even know you COULD use ZX for clicks) and my problem was that with my right hand doing both mouse movement and clicking I had a hard time doing both at once with the same hand. Separating the two by going to Mouse+ZX made a huge difference, but by then I think I was playing some hard maps and maybe an easy insane or two.
I have no clue how many plays it took me to improve (I can't remember what sort of skill I was at at any given time) but looking at my history I played maybe 1200 or so plays in the first 3 months. After that I began playing more because I was beginning to improve at a steady pace, and played 1k or more plays a month for the next 4 months or so. Going by that it looks like it took me about 6 months give or take before I was playing insanes at much (just guessing here).
Everyone is different, and has different characteristic in how they improve, how often they play, etc. Recently my plays per month ash been dropping like a rock because I've hit a wall, and because my endurance is down a bit, due to playing more harder maps rather than spending a session playing mostly hards with some insanes mixed in. TL multi rooms not happening as often now probably also contributes, but multis are a pain for me now because I have to delete backgrounds or maps are extremely difficult for me now.
We should try to organize more TL multi rooms again.
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its hard to notice how much you improve, but what i do is that I go back to older songs that i used to have difficulities with and go through them without any issues at all. I've come to the point where i can pass most insane maps (not shit like the big black or stuff like that, but i did do with a dance number the other day) through pure practise.
i still cant HR for my life, no matter how much i try, small circles with fast AR is just too much for me  , but as the others said, just keep playing and you'll eventually be there.
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On August 17 2012 02:08 Tankz123 wrote:
its hard to notice how much you improve, but what i do is that I go back to older songs that i used to have difficulities with and go through them without any issues at all. I've come to the point where i can pass most insane maps (not shit like the big black or stuff like that, but i did do with a dance number the other day) through pure practise.
Yep. Going back to something you haven't played very recently is a good way to check your improvement. One thing I used to do was purposely playing something like big black on nofail and look at my misses and such. I could tell when I had improved because there'd be a noticeable reduction in misses, or you'd notice that you feel more comfortable playing something of that difficulty than you used to.
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On August 16 2012 18:04 Mana101 wrote:
One of the things I've noticed is that a majority of the songs are generic anime openings that I have no interest in. Nightcore is fine, but why is there such a relative shortage of recent English songs in the ranked beatmaps?
Probably because like 70% of the game's active population is from China/Japan/Korea/Taiwan
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On August 16 2012 18:04 Mana101 wrote:I've been playing this game for a few months now and I'm still unable to even get close to finishing insane maps Normal maps I can FC easily, the same with *some* Hard maps, and I can finish most hard maps I've tried. But Insane seems impossible. One of the things I've noticed is that a majority of the songs are generic anime openings that I have no interest in. Nightcore is fine, but why is there such a relative shortage of recent English songs in the ranked beatmaps? here is my profile ps catch the beat is not very fun
Idk I've only been playing for 3 months but I felt like I could pass most maps in the game aafter like 2-2.5 months (by most maps i mean maps that dont take significant muscle training and reflex skills like playing streams at high bpm or reading ar10 jumps)
What I do is just constantly play harder and harder maps. I think the first week I played I had over 3000 plays just from constantly grinding against and failing 5 star map. The first map I ever actually passed was patchoulis aerodynamics map after like a straight 8 hour grind lol.
Just keep pushing yourself and you'll get there. it really is fun when you do. The feeling you get when your beating maps you couldn't play a week ago or fcing maps with mods that you couldn't pass a month ago is awesome.
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Yeah, it feels great when you finally pass something after trying and failing a lot. There's a reason I posted my score on passing Masterpiece, even if it was an unranked AR10 version. Now if only I could regularly pass that, rather than it being a once every X tries thing.
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Always feels good to see improvement in your play. I had favorited one of the Platinum Disco songs to practice DT on, usually got 83-86%. The last week I've just been ranking on any song I saw I thought I could FC with mods, and today I went back to play it again. FC'd with DT with 95.69% on my first try. The improvement in just a week was pretty jarring. I think PP-whoring helps build skill faster than rank-whoring ever did for me.
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ahahaha slider breaks are SO CYUTE
50 100s 2 50s 0 X
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/coxQD.jpg)
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i dont mind slider breaks so much, i do however have plenty of 99% A ranks because my hands always go full retard doing the last spinner. I just cant do them consistently
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does anyone else sometimes find themselves tapping their foot in time to the music when playing? It almost becomes an impediment with high bpm/double-time songs, but it helps keep time.
and slider breaks make my cry in fury. If it's not an x, why should it halve my score ~.~
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On August 17 2012 14:55 Hakker wrote:ahahaha slider breaks are SO CYUTE 50 100s 2 50s 0 X
Seriously, fuck that song. You fail If you miss more than one note EVER. That's just dumb. Might be an exaggeration, but you really do fail if you miss like 4 notes in the space of a minute.
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i recently started playing this thing again and i have the same problem with the game i used to have. So my mouse is really fast and it is impossible to spin at a decent rate with my mouse. I can use the spun out perk but that reduces my score, or i can decrease my mouse settings (my mouse actually has buttons to decrease the dpi but that doesn't help especially at hard/insane maps because the time it takes to press that button and spin and put it back on normal is enough to make me fail every single song...)but then i lose my accuracy.
So i wonder if there is any trick to spin better more efficient?
any help appreciated, oh btw. i actually have a graphics tablet but i want to play with a mouse.
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If your mouse is 'too fast', that means your dpi is too high. Lower dpi doesn't equal lower accuracy, you're just less accurate because you're used to playing at a higher dpi.
Switching the dpi with a button will never work, there are songs where spinners come and go too fast to manage to swap like that. If you really can't spin at your current dpi, try a lower one. And I mean play the entire game at a lower dpi.
Or switch to tablet so you aren't handicapping yourself. 
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On August 19 2012 03:22 idonthinksobro wrote:
i recently started playing this thing again and i have the same problem with the game i used to have. So my mouse is really fast and it is impossible to spin at a decent rate with my mouse. I can use the spun out perk but that reduces my score, or i can decrease my mouse settings (my mouse actually has buttons to decrease the dpi but that doesn't help especially at 5 star maps because the time it takes to press that button and spin and put it back on normal is enough to make me fail every single song...)but then i lose my accuracy.
So i wonder if there is any trick to spin better more efficient?
any help appreciated, oh btw. i actually have a graphics tablet but i want to play with a mouse.
Spin in smaller circles. If you see replays by the people who are better at this game, they spin in very tight circles and spin really fast. Granted, they're using tablets so they can make much smaller circles than mouse users.
One benefit of spinning in smaller circles is that your wrist doesn't die so quickly.
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I use a really high sensitivity mouse and don't really have a problem with spinners. For me it helps if I make larger circles, since I don't have the mouse precision to make small ones.
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i also have pretty high sensitivity and i spin a consistent ~410
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I play at 1200 dpi and I'm accurate
It's all up to personal preference, although lower dpi lets you centerspin a lot easier than high dpi
Just mess around with your settings until you find a balance of what works and keeps your accuracy at the level you'd like it to be at
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On August 16 2012 22:19 Bobbias wrote:
When I started I had to start with 0.5* easy maps. Now I play insanes, and can DT some of them. The fastest way to improve is to play songs that you can't pass yet, and try. What happens if your brain will start getting used to the harder map, and when you go play easy stuff they'll feel easier. But part of it is about how often you play the harder stuff, if you only play them once a week, it's not really gonna help. I'd suggest a few retries on each map that's too hard (or a nofail playthrough) and playing multiple maps that are too hard each session (depending on how long you play the game for in your session). Don't focus solely on stuff thats too hard, but play them regularly, and you will find yourself getting more used to the harder maps, and getting better at the easier maps.
No my problem is that i cant move my finger fast enough to keep up.
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On August 19 2012 03:22 idonthinksobro wrote:
i recently started playing this thing again and i have the same problem with the game i used to have. So my mouse is really fast and it is impossible to spin at a decent rate with my mouse. I can use the spun out perk but that reduces my score, or i can decrease my mouse settings (my mouse actually has buttons to decrease the dpi but that doesn't help especially at hard/insane maps because the time it takes to press that button and spin and put it back on normal is enough to make me fail every single song...)but then i lose my accuracy.
So i wonder if there is any trick to spin better more efficient?
any help appreciated, oh btw. i actually have a graphics tablet but i want to play with a mouse.
DPI doesn't change spinning in any way, all it does is change the size of the circle. Are you using mouse acceleration?
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On August 19 2012 09:46 Xafnia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2012 03:22 idonthinksobro wrote:
i recently started playing this thing again and i have the same problem with the game i used to have. So my mouse is really fast and it is impossible to spin at a decent rate with my mouse. I can use the spun out perk but that reduces my score, or i can decrease my mouse settings (my mouse actually has buttons to decrease the dpi but that doesn't help especially at hard/insane maps because the time it takes to press that button and spin and put it back on normal is enough to make me fail every single song...)but then i lose my accuracy.
So i wonder if there is any trick to spin better more efficient?
any help appreciated, oh btw. i actually have a graphics tablet but i want to play with a mouse. DPI doesn't change spinning in any way, all it does is change the size of the circle. Are you using mouse acceleration?
Does Osu actually track the mouse outside the game window? Because if you aren't full screen, and have high dpi, it isn't unreasonable to think it might be hard to keep it in the window and still go fast.
And really, if it's full screen and you have high dpi so you constantly hit the edges of the screen, wouldn't that slow you down as well?
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