[Game] Osu! - Page 147

When I started, I left videos on, didn't delete storyboards or backgrounds. I learned pretty quickly that removing/turning off videos made a difference, so I started playing no-video, downloading no-video files, and even eventually deleted all my videos.

To be completely honest, if I could dim storyboards down to a true 90%, along with BGs, I'd be fine, because that would be dark enough to not fuck with me, and peppy could have his precious SBs and BGs.

What bothers me is just the fact that peppy feels he has to police the mapping community. He create arbitrary rules that have little effect other than giving OCD modders a moral ground to bitch people out for little nit-picky things. He doesn't seem to understand that while nurturing mappers and competitive players aren't mutually exclusive, it's a fine balance that takes a lot of thought and a lot of careful decision making, not railroading one guy in favor of the other, and then claiming that some relatively small change shows his support for the oppressed group.

He needs to leave the community be. Let them police themselves with no official power. Remove the MAT/BAT system, merge ranked and approved into a "released/unreleased" system where the player simply signals that they are done making the map. Allow the players to chose to play however they want, and the mappers to map however they want. This neither forces players to deal with terrible BS/SBs, nor forces mappers to feel like they should stop creating BGs/SBs because frankly, how many players actually delete all their backgrounds and SBs?

Not only would this require FAR less man power, maps could get released far sooner, which I'm sure would make a LOT of mappers happy.

You could argue that the overall quality of maps would decrease, but I doubt the effect would be nearly as noticeable as you'd expect. The mappers who make bad maps would release their map, everyone might try it once, and then everyone who thinks the map is bad would stop playing it. Rankwhoring might be easier, but I have a feeling peppy will switch internal ranking over to PP sometime in the near future, because that just makes sense.

When the community is forced to moderate themselves with no oversight from people like peppy, it leads to a far more inclusive style of community because nobody is forced to listen to some jackass who doesn't like their map for no apparent reason. It worked very well for stepmania. Bemanistyle is chock full of HORRIBLE stepfiles, but despite that there were TONs of well known stepmakers who released there. Even after the "elite community" centered around arch0wl.com (far from the only community releasing quality stepfiles) stopped releasing their stuff there as much, it was very easy for a relatively unknown mapper to release something and immediately catch people's attention (as long as they posted it in the right places, SM's community was VERY fractured compared to what osu would be). With a centralized forum and map release system like osu has, many of the downsides of that sort of system would be mitigated. Even if some "elite" group of mappers appeared, and influenced other mappers, I don't see that as being a bad thing. "Elitest" groups like that tend to have higher quality mapping and create standards that the rest of the community will tend to follow on their own. And it's not like they'd be able to do much other than boycott playing a map if someone broke those rules.