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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19224 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 15:45:53
November 22 2011 15:23 GMT
#17581
On November 23 2011 00:11 DiracMonopole wrote:
Yesterday I concluded another scam.

I read this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23217

tl;dr, someone got suicide ganked in an untanked t1 hauler and dropped 4B worth of plex in jita. This person put a 4B bounty on the guy who SGed him.

Now, its easy to fake killmails, Ive done it before, but the contractor demanded API verification! What to do, what to do. Aha! We run our own killboard! After asking the admin, he agreed to flag whatever kills I wanted as API verified.

So I then contacted the mark, and negotiated him into paying out the entire worth of the ship, instead of only isk destroyed. He agreed. I also told him that Galen Oskold (the "target") does ninjaing, and I would use this to bait him. I then got him to probe down my highsec macha pilot, who killed him. http://hatchery.me/kills/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1953

Except that alt has absolutely nothing trained.

The mark was very pleased with my kill, and after looking at the mail, asked me to verify it on battleclinic. Oh no, I am undone!

Or the mark is a very special kind of stupid. I made up a conspiracy theory.
Show nested quote +
I am really not comfortable giving my API to battleclinic. The site is run by people who play the game, and there have been issues with them using their website to their advantage.

The killboard I linked is a standard killboard package, same as what PL and most major alliances use, and it interfaces with the API just as well (or better) than battleclinic. Afaik, it doesnt even have any options to modify the mails - if its verified by the API, there isnt much to do to change that.


He accepted this argument and paid me 1.5B

A few weeks later, I went and made another killmail. This one I fucked up a few times, since the T3s are a bit more complicated, but the killboard admin deleted my first attempts.

http://hatchery.me/kills/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=2413

I mailed the mark again, and after a bit of a delay, he sent me 3 plexes as payment. The delay was because I had told him there were tears, which he wanted, so I had to fake them. The contract against the suicide ganker is now completed, with me taking about 3.7B of the 4B total.

Harari victor!
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Don't I get a bit?
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 21:38:28
November 22 2011 15:58 GMT
#17582
On November 22 2011 22:18 KwarK wrote:
A man walks into a private members club. In the entrance hallway there is a description of the club and its ethos, a list of rules, requirements for members, achievements, general tips for members and a description of membership and recruitment policy. He walks past these without reading them. The halls are filled with the history of the club, newspaper cuttings of the success of members, recollections of great moments, the story of the cluib and its members throughout the years. The man skips past these, instead strolling into the lounge where a dozen old friends are sitting around in armchairs, sharing a fine Scotch and smoking cigars. He flops down amongst them as the conversation buzzes around him, people relating their experiences of the day to each other, and then suddenly says "so, does anyone still come here?". The conversation pauses as the assembled group consider this question. "Yes" would be the obvious answer but the very act of answering validates the assertion, regardless of the words. To look deeper the asking of the question to the assembled room would seem to answer itself, the question "does anyone hear me?" can never be answered with a "no", the answer can only be affirmative or no answer at all. The room fell into stunned silence until KwarK cut through the paradox like Alexander at Gordion, the simple expression "idiot" echoing Alexander's sword stroke.

All this went above the head of the stranger whose complete lack of understanding spawned indignation. Rising to his feet he declared to the room at large "if you're going to be so rude then I won't join your club, nor will I let you car pool with me in my Fiat Panda. More fool you, I got it second hand with interest free credit and I'll have it paid off in four years". Again the room falls into stunned silence. Each and every one of them is a highly educated, highly affluent professional, all individually capable of sustaining their own life of luxury while membership of the club grants them access to the privileges of obscene wealth, access to vast amounts of easy credit, insider trading information, cheap access to goods and expert knowledge on every field. Stockbrokers, lawyers, hedge fund managers, directors in large multinationals, politicians and master thieves share a collective sigh. The stranger seizes the moment and steps up his assault crying "and I see not one of you is wearing a chunky 12ct gold chain around your neck, can't you afford one?!?".

BBQ is the first to react, admitting the collective failings of the group in their effort to between them achieve a single gold chain. The man had a point, not one gold chain between them. His dry wit was lost on the stranger who again tried to seize the initiative. Assured that his point was made he asked when his membership card would arrive so he could be a part of the group.

Finally the chairman has had enough and explains to the realities of the situation to the stranger. That his approach was both disrespectful and idiotic, that he interrupted a conversation between people detailing their activities that night to ask if anyone was there, that he ignored the work and effort put in by members to help people such as himself, that he acted as thought he instructions in the OP did not apply to himself and instead approached a group of his betters like a spoiled child claiming an entitlement. That his offer to car pool did not make him special to a group with access to private jets and that he was a supplicant and an outsider whose arrogance was both misplaced and unwelcome.

The stranger paused as he attempted to process the verbal assault. The collective group waited breathless to see his response to the explanation of his place in their house. Several minutes passed as the man stared aimlessly into the distance, his lips silently mouthing words as his brain struggled to process this new information. However the task proved too difficult and his brain rebooted itself, seizing a fact it was familiar with and uttering it with renewed certainty. His back straightened and he announced to the room "I have a car!".

The room responded with silence as the group collectively rolled their eyes. It was clear he didn't, or rather couldn't, understand.

Sensing his words may not have had the intended effect the stranger continued stating "I moved out of my parent's house and I've fed myself for over three years!". As he looked around the dimly lit room he noticed a lack of awe in the faces of the assembled men. He didn't notice that many of them were considerably older than him, nor that all of them were in expensive fitted suits and brand name accessories. The fact that several of them shared surnames with large multinationals was lost on him. Having not deigned to read the description, ethos or rules of the club before inviting himself he was completely unaware of his faux pas, twice a victim of his own arrogant assumptions. However he was beginning to notice the hostility with which several of the members responded to his claims. Unable to comprehend his error he couldn't possibly understand its cause and, suddenly feeling defensive, he withdrew.


Dude.

He's a cap pilot.

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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
November 22 2011 16:30 GMT
#17583
I just caught up on this thread rofl, is that guy real?
NathanEO
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 16:38:03
November 22 2011 16:37 GMT
#17584
Excellent Michael.

Also: Corp bookmarks with (up to) 5min delay: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3113
Valashu
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands561 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 16:45:59
November 22 2011 16:43 GMT
#17585
On November 23 2011 00:11 DiracMonopole wrote:
Yesterday I concluded another scam.

I read this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23217

tl;dr, someone got suicide ganked in an untanked t1 hauler and dropped 4B worth of plex in jita. This person put a 4B bounty on the guy who SGed him.

Now, its easy to fake killmails, Ive done it before, but the contractor demanded API verification! What to do, what to do. Aha! We run our own killboard! After asking the admin, he agreed to flag whatever kills I wanted as API verified.

So I then contacted the mark, and negotiated him into paying out the entire worth of the ship, instead of only isk destroyed. He agreed. I also told him that Galen Oskold (the "target") does ninjaing, and I would use this to bait him. I then got him to probe down my highsec macha pilot, who killed him. http://hatchery.me/kills/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1953

Except that alt has absolutely nothing trained.

The mark was very pleased with my kill, and after looking at the mail, asked me to verify it on battleclinic. Oh no, I am undone!

Or the mark is a very special kind of stupid. I made up a conspiracy theory.
Show nested quote +
I am really not comfortable giving my API to battleclinic. The site is run by people who play the game, and there have been issues with them using their website to their advantage.

The killboard I linked is a standard killboard package, same as what PL and most major alliances use, and it interfaces with the API just as well (or better) than battleclinic. Afaik, it doesnt even have any options to modify the mails - if its verified by the API, there isnt much to do to change that.


He accepted this argument and paid me 1.5B

A few weeks later, I went and made another killmail. This one I fucked up a few times, since the T3s are a bit more complicated, but the killboard admin deleted my first attempts.

http://hatchery.me/kills/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=2413

I mailed the mark again, and after a bit of a delay, he sent me 3 plexes as payment. The delay was because I had told him there were tears, which he wanted, so I had to fake them. The contract against the suicide ganker is now completed, with me taking about 3.7B of the 4B total.

Harari victor!
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]




This is amazing!
Makes me giggle.
The superior pilot uses his superior judgement to avoid exercising his superior skill.
Zedd Althor
Profile Joined August 2011
United States67 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 18:39:47
November 22 2011 17:31 GMT
#17586
A quick google search on Ivan Krukov turned up the following.

Post 99 in this thread:
http://eve-search.com/thread/1113824-0/page/4#99
"I myself am a corporation thief as well. Props to you Maddan." - Ivan

And looking at his corp history, I was in AWE corp with him several years ago. If I remember correctly he was also kicked for corp theft.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
November 22 2011 17:50 GMT
#17587
On November 23 2011 02:31 Zedd Althor wrote:
A quick google search on Ivan Krukov turned up the following.

Post 99 in this thread:
http://eve-search.com/thread/1113824-0/page/4#99
"I myself am a corporation thief as well. Props to you Maddan." - Ivan

And looking at his corp history, I was in AWE corp with him several years ago, and if I remember correctly he was also kicked for corp theft.

ahahaa, nice find. Though i wouldn't be too worried about him possibly stealing anything from us anyway if he joined.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 18:11:28
November 22 2011 18:11 GMT
#17588
On November 23 2011 02:31 Zedd Althor wrote:
A quick google search on Ivan Krukov turned up the following.

Post 99 in this thread:
http://eve-search.com/thread/1113824-0/page/4#99
"I myself am a corporation thief as well. Props to you Maddan." - Ivan

And looking at his corp history, I was in AWE corp with him several years ago, and if I remember correctly he was also kicked for corp theft.

So that's where I remember his name from!

Thought it was familiar.
?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
November 22 2011 18:13 GMT
#17589
Not the rifters, no no!
Moderator
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
November 22 2011 18:23 GMT
#17590
When no one was looking, Ivan Krukov took forty rifters. He took 40 rifters. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14149 Posts
November 22 2011 18:41 GMT
#17591
On November 23 2011 03:23 motbob wrote:
When no one was looking, Ivan Krukov took forty rifters. He took 40 rifters. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.



How will the hatchery recover from such a huge loss? can kwark swallow that 20 mil hit?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Zedd Althor
Profile Joined August 2011
United States67 Posts
November 22 2011 18:53 GMT
#17592
I think the more pressing issue is "how will our fleets survive with out the rifters?"
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2011 19:05 GMT
#17593
On November 23 2011 03:53 Zedd Althor wrote:
I think the more pressing issue is "how will our fleets survive with out the rifters?"


Real talk
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
November 22 2011 20:57 GMT
#17594
TL is blocked at work, I come back and see 10 pages of this....glory...
[image loading]
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Weken
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom580 Posts
November 22 2011 22:52 GMT
#17595
Nooooo not our rifters, what will we do?
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
November 22 2011 23:21 GMT
#17596
Dip into the buy dramiels for everyone and use those as suicide tackle fund?
mythics
Profile Joined January 2011
United States75 Posts
November 22 2011 23:30 GMT
#17597
last four pages were so much fun. Loved the vid too. Hope to one day be in one of those fleets. So much to learn till then though.
Two most abundant elments: hydrogen and stupidity.
s0Li
Profile Joined September 2010
United States406 Posts
November 23 2011 00:03 GMT
#17598
On November 23 2011 02:31 Zedd Althor wrote:
A quick google search on Ivan Krukov turned up the following.

Post 99 in this thread:
http://eve-search.com/thread/1113824-0/page/4#99
"I myself am a corporation thief as well. Props to you Maddan." - Ivan

And looking at his corp history, I was in AWE corp with him several years ago. If I remember correctly he was also kicked for corp theft.



Blue to Quiet.Storm?

http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=349717&m=3&y=2010
I don't wanna hear excuses, I wanna hear solutions...
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
November 23 2011 00:40 GMT
#17599
Self-admitted corp thief, history of flying with our enemies, comes in and is completely oblivious to the surr--

Oh wait, you can fly caps?!

Come in, good sir!
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DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
November 23 2011 01:33 GMT
#17600
On November 23 2011 09:40 Firebolt145 wrote:
Self-admitted corp thief, history of flying with our enemies, comes in and is completely oblivious to the surr--

Oh wait, you can fly caps?!

Come in, good sir!


To be fair, that nearly describes me.
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