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KwarK
United States42867 Posts
On September 11 2012 01:38 Xinder wrote: So of those 3 which would be more beneficial to the corp? I'm training eng V right now and have Nav V already trained. It was suggested I get electronics, nav, eng to V. Then to ask you what to train.  Go lasers. PEWPEW! | ||
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
Lol. Lasers sound fun. I'll work on planning out my skills then tonight when I get home. I started as caldari so I could get in a merlin faster. Is it quicker to get into a harb or oracle faster? Or they both about the same? | ||
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nonentity
160 Posts
On September 11 2012 02:00 Xinder wrote: Lol. Lasers sound fun. I'll work on planning out my skills then tonight when I get home. I started as caldari so I could get in a merlin faster. Is it quicker to get into a harb or oracle faster? Or they both about the same? They are a natural progression. The requirements/supports needed is the same for both ships except oracles use large pulse lasers and harbs mediums, which are a requirement for large anyway. | ||
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KwarK
United States42867 Posts
On September 11 2012 02:04 nonentity wrote: They are a natural progression. The requirements/supports needed is the same for both ships except oracles use large pulse lasers and harbs mediums, which are a requirement for large anyway. You won't be in either anytime soon though. I'll look into some frigate fits for pewpewing soon though, slicer could integrate nicely with our doctrines. | ||
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Impervious
Canada4200 Posts
On September 11 2012 02:00 Xinder wrote: Lol. Lasers sound fun. I'll work on planning out my skills then tonight when I get home. I started as caldari so I could get in a merlin faster. Is it quicker to get into a harb or oracle faster? Or they both about the same? If you plan on staying in a tackle merlin for a while (which you should, since you will learn a lot), plan on getting Caldari frigate to 5. Ideally, any ship you ever fly should always have the relevant spaceship command skill to 5, because it makes such a huge difference on every ship. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34492 Posts
On September 11 2012 02:15 Impervious wrote: If you plan on staying in a tackle merlin for a while (which you should, since you will learn a lot), plan on getting Caldari frigate to 5. Ideally, any ship you ever fly should always have the relevant spaceship command skill to 5, because it makes such a huge difference on every ship. We've never placed too much on getting the appropriate tackle frigate skill to V. It won't save your life enough times to make it worth it tbh. | ||
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KwarK
United States42867 Posts
That said, new amarr pilots, train for this. + Show Spoiler + [Tormentor, test] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Damage Control II Co-Processor II Tracking Enhancer II Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I Faint Warp Disruptor I Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Energy Locus Coordinator I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Should be doable with decent supports in <1 month from starting. It's not a monster but it's definitely capable of getting things done and will be fine for learning fundamentals. I've designed it to have room on grid for people lacking AWU and SU too. It transitions nicely into coercer when they buff it and oracle/harb/zealot as it is. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34492 Posts
Obviously for us it's like 'meh whatever' but for new guys it's huge | ||
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Impervious
Canada4200 Posts
On September 11 2012 02:22 Firebolt145 wrote: We've never placed too much on getting the appropriate tackle frigate skill to V. It won't save your life enough times to make it worth it tbh. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14565711 I popped at exactly the same time that the Zealot popped. He was aligned, and nobody else had a point on him. Granted I'm in a rifter, so I don't get a EHP bonus from the spaceship command skill, but if it lacking the skill to 5 means you die, even once, before they die, then you died for nothing. That's well worth a 6-7 day train imo. It's not always about keeping you alive, it's about keeping you alive long enough to do what you need to do. | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
On September 11 2012 03:00 Impervious wrote: http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14565711 I popped at exactly the same time that the Zealot popped. He was aligned, and nobody else had a point on him. Granted I'm in a rifter, so I don't get a EHP bonus from the spaceship command skill, but if it lacking the skill to 5 means you die, even once, before they die, then you died for nothing. That's well worth a 6-7 day train imo. It's not always about keeping you alive, it's about keeping you alive long enough to do what you need to do. We will avenge our brothers who have fallen in the honourable line of duty! FOR INTERNET SPACESHIPZ! FOR THE HATCHERY! OORAH! | ||
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Sylvex
United States127 Posts
[Executioner, Executioner fit] Damage Control II Fourier Transform Tracking Program Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Faint Warp Disruptor I Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S [Empty High slot] Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Small Energy Locus Coordinator I Can I fly this instead if I can fit it? Its almost the same except for the fourier and lack of a co-proc. The differences stat wise (with my skills) between executioner and tormenter are that executioner is 1200 m/s faster, cap lasts 3 min longer, is more agile, sig is slightly smaller, scan res is 1214 vs 818, but targeting range is 36km instead of 52 km, ehp is 6.21k vs 6.84k, and optimal is 14.3km instead of 14.6km. Just wondering, mostly a learning exercise here. >.> | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19082 Posts
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Impervious
Canada4200 Posts
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Sylvex
United States127 Posts
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
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Dacendoran
United States825 Posts
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JJoNeEightY
United States509 Posts
On September 11 2012 01:51 KwarK wrote: Quafe LP have been castrated. Their giant space penis has been sold and only at a 20b profit. Awful. This makes me sad...when can we expect a replacement wang? | ||
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nonentity
160 Posts
On September 11 2012 02:32 KwarK wrote: It transitions nicely into coercer Was gonna say, once it's buffed (and possibly even now), coercer is a nice option for your newer guys as anti-frig support (altho I imagine tackle frig work is possibly better for initial learning with no SP at all). Also, while racial frig V isn't ~omg must have~ for tackling, it gives the newer guys a nice option for solo frig work while training for the bigger ships (and 6 days really isn't that much, even two or three weeks into the game). And completely unrelated, omg 10mn hawk. Still optimising fits, but I think I have it sorted (faction LMLs not awful shocker). Will post a fit after a bit more testing... | ||
TheEmulator
28090 Posts
On September 11 2012 02:32 KwarK wrote: fb, it's 6 days, it's not unreasonable. That said, new amarr pilots, train for this. + Show Spoiler + [Tormentor, test] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Damage Control II Co-Processor II Tracking Enhancer II Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I Faint Warp Disruptor I Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Energy Locus Coordinator I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Should be doable with decent supports in <1 month from starting. It's not a monster but it's definitely capable of getting things done and will be fine for learning fundamentals. I've designed it to have room on grid for people lacking AWU and SU too. It transitions nicely into coercer when they buff it and oracle/harb/zealot as it is. Nice. I can fly this really soon. Just need small energy turret V. What supports would you recommend me getting before using this in fleet? | ||
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Johnny Business
Sweden1251 Posts
Also Drake > Harb. All day every day. | ||
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