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Arhkangel
Profile Joined August 2007
Argentina769 Posts
August 27 2010 03:28 GMT
#2461
That would be amazing!!! I'm excited like a little girl.
Part Time Ninja
Dacendoran
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States825 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 03:55:14
August 27 2010 03:41 GMT
#2462
As am I, excited I mean. =D

I hope they refund skillpoints
Kwidowmaker
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada978 Posts
August 27 2010 05:05 GMT
#2463

I imagine they will introduce it as soon as they bug test it to death and beyond, this will be the biggest change in as long as I can remember as it very dramatically affects every single character in the game. The repucussions would be great if something went wrong.


Best post on that forum :p

How is removing learning skills going to work? Are they rehauling the training mechanics as well?
Kk.
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
August 27 2010 07:28 GMT
#2464
I don't know if you guys read the devblogs, but there are no current plans set in motion to remove the learning skills.

CCP has admitted in the past that learning skills was bad game design, but some people like them and argue for them. Look up one of the 100 or so page flamewars in the skill discussion forum.

CCP will remove them at some point, but not until they have found a solution good enough to please both sides of the argument. This skill point reimbursment thing they implemented earlier might be a precursor to a learning skill change.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43450 Posts
August 27 2010 07:51 GMT
#2465
Krytek Armaments. Putting that here so I don't forget the name like I do with all our other war targets. Lets dec them.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Dacendoran
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States825 Posts
August 27 2010 08:41 GMT
#2466
that post was less than 2 weeks ago those. I dunno how much power the csm has though
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43450 Posts
August 28 2010 00:53 GMT
#2467
We ran a nice little wormhole op earlier with a small group of relative novices and scooped near 40m isk. Then some more experienced players came on and we got a bigger group together and tried for a bigger op. Things were going okay (although the profit left a little to be desired) until our exit collapsed and left us stranded with between two wormholes. Furthermore every now and then on scan we seemed to pick up on someone probing us down. That's when the miscommunications started.
For anyone who finds this interesting but doesn't actively play eve wormholes are doorways from one part of space to another random part. Sometimes they lead to safe bits, sometimes to unsafe and sometimes to unknown space from which it's impossible to get back by conventional means (stargates) because you have no idea where you are and there are no stargates. You can either keep going forwards through more wormholes (if you can find them) or retrace your steps. You need to be holding special equipment to find new wormholes which left us kinda fucked when the one we used to get in and planned to exit by collapsed.
Fortunately myself and one other had the specialist equipment but even then it's a bit hit and miss and time consuming. Also we were spread across two areas of unknown space connected by another wormhole that was rapidly collapsing and both of the probers (people who can probe for wormholes) were on the same side while the rest of the fleet and all the loot were on the other.

Wormhole living player pirates then struck our group which didn't really have much room to run, killing WP who was flying the only big combat ship of the lot of us. He was holding some of the loot but the majority of it escaped. Then as our main probing ship (I was just carrying it as a backup) went to help them he managed to get his incredibly stealthy hard to lose ship decloaked and blown up for considerably more than the value of all our loot (and probably the rest of our fleet combined). That left us with a budget fitted caracal, a salvaging ship, WP's alt which was defenceless and used simply as a cloaked scout and myself in a horrible fit.

So, thus began our 2 hour epic of survival, betrayal, friendships made and broken and eventually redemption after all hope was lost. More than once we were advised to simply destroy ourselves and respawn in known space but we kept at it and eventually we all made it to safety. The loot we managed to take with us was tallied and turned out to cover all our losses except the hideously expensive probing ship which it turned out had faction fittings and t2 rigs and makes me sad.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Zanzabar Haberdasher
Profile Joined July 2010
United States510 Posts
August 28 2010 01:05 GMT
#2468
Ride in style, die in style.
I have a very unique name.
Ramsing
Profile Joined July 2007
Canada233 Posts
August 28 2010 01:23 GMT
#2469
On August 27 2010 12:12 Dacendoran wrote:
Confirm deny, they are removing learning skills?
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/430571-eve-online/55952404?page=1


Trolling. Unless you read it off an official site from someone who works for CCP, don't put much (if any) stock to those kinds of rumors.
Ramsing
Profile Joined July 2007
Canada233 Posts
August 28 2010 01:34 GMT
#2470
On August 28 2010 09:53 KwarK wrote:
We ran a nice little wormhole op earlier with a small group of relative novices and scooped near 40m isk. Then some more experienced players came on and we got a bigger group together and tried for a bigger op. Things were going okay (although the profit left a little to be desired) until our exit collapsed and left us stranded with between two wormholes. Furthermore every now and then on scan we seemed to pick up on someone probing us down. That's when the miscommunications started.
For anyone who finds this interesting but doesn't actively play eve wormholes are doorways from one part of space to another random part. Sometimes they lead to safe bits, sometimes to unsafe and sometimes to unknown space from which it's impossible to get back by conventional means (stargates) because you have no idea where you are and there are no stargates. You can either keep going forwards through more wormholes (if you can find them) or retrace your steps. You need to be holding special equipment to find new wormholes which left us kinda fucked when the one we used to get in and planned to exit by collapsed.
Fortunately myself and one other had the specialist equipment but even then it's a bit hit and miss and time consuming. Also we were spread across two areas of unknown space connected by another wormhole that was rapidly collapsing and both of the probers (people who can probe for wormholes) were on the same side while the rest of the fleet and all the loot were on the other.

Wormhole living player pirates then struck our group which didn't really have much room to run, killing WP who was flying the only big combat ship of the lot of us. He was holding some of the loot but the majority of it escaped. Then as our main probing ship (I was just carrying it as a backup) went to help them he managed to get his incredibly stealthy hard to lose ship decloaked and blown up for considerably more than the value of all our loot (and probably the rest of our fleet combined). That left us with a budget fitted caracal, a salvaging ship, WP's alt which was defenceless and used simply as a cloaked scout and myself in a horrible fit.

So, thus began our 2 hour epic of survival, betrayal, friendships made and broken and eventually redemption after all hope was lost. More than once we were advised to simply destroy ourselves and respawn in known space but we kept at it and eventually we all made it to safety. The loot we managed to take with us was tallied and turned out to cover all our losses except the hideously expensive probing ship which it turned out had faction fittings and t2 rigs and makes me sad.


I live in a WH and there are a few ways to avoid getting trapped. It sounds like you didn't check the info on the WH itself, as that would have told you if the WH was EOL (End of life) which means that the WH has a maximum 6 hours remaining on it before it collapses. It's also definitely worth googling the actual name of the WH itself (k162, h296 etc.) so you know where it goes. Before you go out doing sites you should have a dedicated team go into the WH in question, probe it out, look for POS's to determine if the WH might be hostile and bookmark everything and anything (especially WH's) so that they can come back, copy all the bookmarks and give them to the rest of the fleet so that nobody gets lost.

You might also want to try this website for doing sites and the like inside a WH, as it can be really useful to know the Class of WH that you're in:

http://www.ellatha.com/eve/WormholeSystemslist.asp

Anyways, nice to see that TL formally trecked out to a WH.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43450 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 01:40:46
August 28 2010 01:36 GMT
#2471
There wasn't really anything formal about it. Any op partially led by me is extremely casual in the planning stages. Thanks though, while I doubt I'll actually learn anything from the experience because I don't have the soul of a true eve player it's nice to know what you should be doing as you disregard it and charge on in.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Arhkangel
Profile Joined August 2007
Argentina769 Posts
August 28 2010 02:20 GMT
#2472
That covert ops ship made me sad

Why Tech II CCC on it WHY!!!? But like Zan said fly in style die in style and The Hatchery certainly has style

P.S. MLG is amazing.
Part Time Ninja
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43450 Posts
August 28 2010 02:26 GMT
#2473
If we'd done a fit check before we left it wouldn't have happened. Not refunding him for it (so the rest of us get something for their trouble) although if he wants hull reimbursement value I'll probably give in.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Zanzabar Haberdasher
Profile Joined July 2010
United States510 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 02:46:18
August 28 2010 02:34 GMT
#2474
Of course I won't be requesting reimbursement. I would only do so if I was formally requested to fit and fly a specific ship. I knew the risks involved in my flying around in a pile of isk, but meh, it happens. I had a good time up until I got blown up and I hope everyone else did the same.
I have a very unique name.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43450 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 12:20:34
August 28 2010 12:19 GMT
#2475
I tend to operate on the assumption of reimbursement being in play whenever I run an op, assuming legitimate fits. After reimbursing the drake that left us with 11m profit each which has been paid. If the loot in WP's drake's hold had been saved it would have been a little over 15m each. Next time I'm carrying the profit because being in a drake, I'm unkillable.

Also I logged on today to find no skill training. FML.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
OPSavioR
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1465 Posts
August 28 2010 12:42 GMT
#2476
On August 28 2010 21:19 KwarK wrote:
I tend to operate on the assumption of reimbursement being in play whenever I run an op, assuming legitimate fits. After reimbursing the drake that left us with 11m profit each which has been paid. If the loot in WP's drake's hold had been saved it would have been a little over 15m each. Next time I'm carrying the profit because being in a drake, I'm unkillable.

Also I logged on today to find no skill training. FML.

Or you get a guy in a cloaked iteron V :D
i dunno lol
iaretehnoob
Profile Joined June 2004
Sweden741 Posts
August 28 2010 13:08 GMT
#2477
I actually saw that the WH was at the end of it's life, but decided I'd ignore that info because I was getting bored.

also hmm, guess my salvage BC needs more highslots, needs a probe launcher and the cloak is a good idea too
tmonet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States172 Posts
August 28 2010 15:00 GMT
#2478
On August 28 2010 09:53 KwarK wrote:
WP's alt which was defenceless and used simply as a cloaked scout


i was flying a 350 dps stealth bomber yo
wp | moe moe kyun!~~~ ♥
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43450 Posts
August 28 2010 15:02 GMT
#2479
On August 29 2010 00:00 tmonet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 09:53 KwarK wrote:
WP's alt which was defenceless and used simply as a cloaked scout


i was flying a 350 dps stealth bomber yo

And it really doesn't say much for how dangersous it was that as far as I knew it was defenceless and unarmed.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
August 29 2010 02:01 GMT
#2480
I dont understand the tech 2 CCC on the cov ops. I use two tech1 scan probe str rigs on mine because you cant use tech 2 scan probe str rigs on a cov ops due to the 300 calibration.

I do use a deadspace MWD though...solves cap problems.
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