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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
December 21 2008 03:04 GMT
#21
On December 21 2008 08:57 Magic84 wrote:
CSS is sh*t.

Many reasons for that, easy recoil, bigger head hitboxes, i don't even consider graphics good, it is goofy in css and graphics is irrelevant in counter-strike. It's soon to be completely dead now since cgs folded. Idiots from Valve cut the amount of 1.6 players exactly in half with recent destructive patch and it still has more players.

http://www.onlinegamingzeitgeist.com/games/
http://archive.gamespy.com/stats/


I havent played 1.6 in a long time, what was the destructive patch about?
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
December 21 2008 03:14 GMT
#22
I think he's talking about this one:

http://store.steampowered.com/news/1921/
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Jovan
Profile Joined August 2006
Canada65 Posts
December 23 2008 15:14 GMT
#23
Heh, a 1.6 vs Source thread on TL .

Honestly it doesn't even matter. There are so many newer FPSs out there that are played tournament-wise (I can think of Call of Duty 4 and Quake 4 right now) that a debate like this is out of fashion.

I do agree with the sentiment that a 1.6 (or Classic) player will have an advantage over a Source player. I remember when I started playing Source I was killing people easily. It still holds true and you can hit #1 in most of the public servers you visit without much trying. The hitboxes are messed up, but it's all good. Play to have fun.

I forgot how long I've been playing CS for but I'm surprised that 1.6 has gained such a cult following. From the time I played (Beta 6.0 or so) up to 1.6, there were way better versions. I think the riot shield was an idiotic move.

Anyhow, if you like 1.6, give Day of Defeat a try. I used to use it years and years ago to practice accurate headshots because in that game, there isn't really any sort of "hit points." You either live or die after being shot by a rifle.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
December 23 2008 15:18 GMT
#24
if you're practicing headshots, people die in one hit anyway lol
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32046 Posts
December 23 2008 15:34 GMT
#25
Steam is better, you guys just need to get with the times. Bunch of old dinosaurs who don't wanna move onto anything new.
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
December 23 2008 20:06 GMT
#26
1.6 = Steam

On December 21 2008 12:14 writer22816 wrote:
I think he's talking about this one:

http://store.steampowered.com/news/1921/

What was destructive about it?
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brambolius
Profile Joined January 2006
Netherlands448 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-23 21:57:26
December 23 2008 21:56 GMT
#27
On December 24 2008 00:34 Hawk wrote:
Steam is better, you guys just need to get with the times. Bunch of old dinosaurs who don't wanna move onto anything new.

lol
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
December 28 2008 13:28 GMT
#28
On December 24 2008 05:06 SonuvBob wrote:
1.6 = Steam

Show nested quote +
On December 21 2008 12:14 writer22816 wrote:
I think he's talking about this one:

http://store.steampowered.com/news/1921/

What was destructive about it?


Server runners have to update from protocol 47 -> protocol 48
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Error Ash
Profile Joined July 2008
Germany177 Posts
December 28 2008 14:06 GMT
#29
On December 21 2008 01:00 DrainX wrote:
Beta 5.2 gogo. Why would you want to play CS without a scope on the m4 ? Or without a p90 that shoots completely straight even though you jump. Or a scout and awp that shoot completely straight without zoom. Or without bunny hopping?


Those were the days!
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
December 28 2008 14:08 GMT
#30
1.6 FTW
hiroxx
Profile Joined July 2008
Ireland115 Posts
December 28 2008 14:51 GMT
#31
1.5 was the best everything else was worse
when yoü aim for Perfection yoü discover it's a Moving target.
GunsofthePatriots
Profile Joined August 2007
South Africa991 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-28 16:48:23
December 28 2008 16:46 GMT
#32
On December 20 2008 21:09 GTR-2-Go wrote:
source is pretty much dead competition wise after cgs folded


Not really... Many major teams have now moved to source, including team 3D.

IMO

CZ > 1.6

Source feels like a whole new game to me.
Scooter
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States747 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-28 20:31:30
December 28 2008 20:31 GMT
#33
On December 24 2008 06:56 brambolius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2008 00:34 Hawk wrote:
Steam is better, you guys just need to get with the times. Bunch of old dinosaurs who don't wanna move onto anything new.

lol

My unblocks gets yo curleh mustache wet のωの
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51418 Posts
December 29 2008 06:02 GMT
#34
On December 29 2008 01:46 GunsofthePatriots wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2008 21:09 GTR-2-Go wrote:
source is pretty much dead competition wise after cgs folded


Not really... Many major teams have now moved to source, including team 3D.

IMO

CZ > 1.6

Source feels like a whole new game to me.


......
you have no idea what you are talking about.
complexity > moved to eg
3D > half of team went to jmc
venom > half of team went to jmc

etc etc
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EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-29 06:40:45
December 29 2008 06:12 GMT
#35
On December 28 2008 23:51 hiroxx wrote:
1.5 was the best everything else was worse

this. But OP is asking which is better: 1.6 or source

If you're looking for fun, and are new to counter-strike I would go with source. The general skill level of pubs is a lot lower and looks/feels amazing. There is definitely a lot more bullshit shots done in source however because of the skewed (bigger) hitboxes, and you will get random-headshotted a lot more than in 1.6. But you wont really notice this unless you're a competitive 1.6 player (i.e. cal and clan scrim type).
Love.Zelduck
Profile Joined February 2008
United States170 Posts
December 29 2008 06:38 GMT
#36
Play 1.6 if you like CS. Find a team and scrim if you want to get any good. Pubs are good for when you're brand new or when u just wanna relax, but the actual game lies in 5v5s.

The world CS community plays 1.6. The only people who play source are North Americans because it pays better. Even the top US pros say they'd rather play 1.6, but they have source contracts and that's what pays over here.

Btw it's easy to learn source once you're good at 1.6. If you start in source, I expect you'd always prefer it because you don't like getting creamed by the harsher engine and stiffer comp, and your transfer would be a crappier experience.
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
December 29 2008 17:45 GMT
#37
it's no wonder i end up killing people even when my crosshair's not on target (not to mention the frequent headshots)
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
December 29 2008 23:21 GMT
#38
1.6 players bashing on source is as stale as zerg/terran players bashing on protoss.

Yes, the spray is more random. No, this doesn't make the game easier at a competitive level. Yes, if you go play on noob pubs, it'll make it easier for nubs to get lucky headshots on you, but at the competitive (aka > cal-o) level, no one is spraying and praying anyways since it's RANDOM and you won't often get kills, so people burst just like in 1.6 anyways.
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
December 29 2008 23:22 GMT
#39
On December 30 2008 08:21 -orb- wrote:
1.6 players bashing on source is as stale as zerg/terran players bashing on protoss.

Yes, the spray is more random. No, this doesn't make the game easier at a competitive level. Yes, if you go play on noob pubs, it'll make it easier for nubs to get lucky headshots on you, but at the competitive (aka > cal-o) level, no one is spraying and praying anyways since it's RANDOM and you won't often get kills, so people burst just like in 1.6 anyways.


W/e, source is ez mode 1a2a3a
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
frankbg
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada335 Posts
December 30 2008 00:24 GMT
#40
On December 30 2008 08:21 -orb- wrote:
1.6 players bashing on source is as stale as zerg/terran players bashing on protoss.

Yes, the spray is more random. No, this doesn't make the game easier at a competitive level. Yes, if you go play on noob pubs, it'll make it easier for nubs to get lucky headshots on you, but at the competitive (aka > cal-o) level, no one is spraying and praying anyways since it's RANDOM and you won't often get kills, so people burst just like in 1.6 anyways.


Rofl. Source is bad. No excuses can make up for it. CALmain source is weaker than CALopen 1.6
Btw, 1.6 players generally ignore source and don't bash it up, except in regards to the CGS.

I mean it really goes to show how bad and retarded sourcies are, first the only league that support them is ran by outsiders who more than likely have downs syndrome, then it's populated by people who don't know wtf they're talking about, like these two:

On December 24 2008 00:34 Hawk wrote:
Steam is better, you guys just need to get with the times. Bunch of old dinosaurs who don't wanna move onto anything new.


And this piece of pure golden comedy:

On December 29 2008 01:46 GunsofthePatriots wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2008 21:09 GTR-2-Go wrote:
source is pretty much dead competition wise after cgs folded


Not really... Many major teams have now moved to source, including team 3D.

IMO

CZ > 1.6

Source feels like a whole new game to me.
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