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CS 1.6 vs Source?

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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
December 20 2008 11:29 GMT
#1
Lately I've been getting into CS again. I've basically only played 1.6 after hearing all the anti-Source stuff about hitboxes being too big, less recoil, etc etc, so I've never tried playing Source.

I'm pretty sure that Valve regularly patches their games, and CSS is probably no exception. So as of right now, does anyone know if source "requires just as much skill" as 1.6? Or should I just stick with counter-strike 1.6?
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Ki_Do
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)981 Posts
December 20 2008 11:30 GMT
#2
Hitboxes man, they freak me out
I've got a point, and i'm ready to kill or die for it.
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-20 11:50:13
December 20 2008 11:36 GMT
#3
Source is easy compared to 1.6

Easy in terms of actual gameplay in killing and amount of horrible people that play that game.

To make a shitty comparison its somewhat similar to ssb: Brawl compared to melee except not only does Source suck (imo) compared to 1.6, they didn't really add anything new gameplay-wise besides remove nifty, skillful glitches and tricks (they even removed some stuff like the retarded, yet fun to use CT shield) and change up hitboxes, recoil, etc. I can only think of 1 detrimental glitch that was removed in source (crouch hop).




It's like what Starcraft 2 is looking to be compared to Starcraft: Brood War. It will create a gigantic rift in the community possibly just like Source did to 1.6 because even though it may be inferior, sponsors go for the newer games without much question and leave the better game in the dust. A game in a set of sequels that even though the previous title is better, the new game is played because it is new and plastered with golden, shiny shit.

CS 1.6 got largely demolished competition-wise, it's still going, it's still the most popular online fps game as of now but Source simply has the sponsors and money. The question is, will Starcraft 2 mess up the great Starcraft Orig? (probably not)



If you like somewhat dumbed down gameplay, maybe it's up your alley. If you are average in 1.6 you will pretty much do very well in random pubbies in source, but not really in competent scrims nevertheless. Competent scrims have everybody deagle headshotting with ease due to the watermelon sized heads in comparison to the smaller head hitboxes in 1.6. Being "good" in Source makes you average, yet being a great deagle headshotter in 1.6 makes you become an excellent player.

Some dudes I know say they would never play 1.6 because it looks like they are throwing a spray can or something when they throw a grenade. Well Gameplay > Graphics anyday and really, thats all source has going for it against the superior CS 1.6. GrApHiCs


To finally answer your question, source does not require as much skill as 1.6. Source idiots/fanboys might disagree, but its true. You do not need as much technical skill in source in comparison to 1.6, you don't really need as much game smarts either.

Yeah I hate source it sucks.
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Jizz
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Australia224 Posts
December 20 2008 11:45 GMT
#4
Source is the Blonde version of 1.6.

blonde= Dumber and prettier
I made this account before i knew what the name meant. I just thought it sounded coooool
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
December 20 2008 11:47 GMT
#5
why can't developers make shit pretty AND functional

: (
Hates Fun🤔
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
December 20 2008 11:55 GMT
#6
1.6 is definitely less random with more recoil and smaller head size, and requires more thinking because of that.

Source, on the other hand, seems to reward more aggressive (read: dumb) players because of the low recoil and large head hitbox.

Just play what you feel is more fun.
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
Chariot
Profile Joined November 2007
United States36 Posts
December 20 2008 11:55 GMT
#7
On December 20 2008 20:47 paper wrote:
why can't developers make shit pretty AND functional

: (


Because they have a budget
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51491 Posts
December 20 2008 12:09 GMT
#8
source is pretty much dead competition wise after cgs folded
Commentator
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
December 20 2008 12:13 GMT
#9
Thanks for all the replies!

I don't know what it is that makes me continue to consider Source... I guess it's the name.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
December 20 2008 14:19 GMT
#10
i sometimes wonder, will sc2 turn out to be like cs: source? (sc2 - automining/MBS cs:source - hitbox)
and then sc could be like cs 1.6? (more skillzzz)
SNSD fan
daz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada643 Posts
December 20 2008 14:48 GMT
#11
source is fun but i wouldnt recommend it if your looking to play at a level higher then pubbing
Some eat to remember, some smash to forget. 2009msl.com
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-20 16:01:48
December 20 2008 16:00 GMT
#12
Beta 5.2 gogo. Why would you want to play CS without a scope on the m4 ? Or without a p90 that shoots completely straight even though you jump. Or a scout and awp that shoot completely straight without zoom. Or without bunny hopping?
ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
December 20 2008 16:12 GMT
#13
playing both 1.6 and source for fun


I prefer 1.6 because it feels less based on luck and more on skill.


Studying Chinese~
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
December 20 2008 19:23 GMT
#14
I played 1.6 (and 1.5) for about 5-6 years. I've played source for one. I went back to 1.6
Trust me. 1.6 is infinitely better then source (in every aspect other then the reg in source is somewhat better and the graphics...). 1.6 is just a much better competitive game, and skill is a much more important aspect then it is in source, and there are so many more little tricks in 1.6 that can you give you an edge over an opponent in source (knowing some obscure spam spots, for example).
Stay with 1.6
You won't regret it.
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krazymunky
Profile Joined June 2008
United States727 Posts
December 20 2008 20:34 GMT
#15
i only play source for the mods.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
shavingcream66
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1219 Posts
December 20 2008 20:43 GMT
#16
ugh, I can never get into CS 1.6. I think the skill level of most of the players are so high already that for noobs like me to get started, it's almost impossible. i get curbstomped every game
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
December 20 2008 22:20 GMT
#17
meh i wish i knew how to play it online ;/
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-20 23:43:23
December 20 2008 23:42 GMT
#18
On December 20 2008 20:45 Jizz wrote:
Source is the Blonde version of 1.6.

blonde= Dumber and prettier


That's a good one. It's true.

I prefer 1.6 myself and always have.
XK ßubonic
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
December 20 2008 23:57 GMT
#19
CSS is sh*t.

Many reasons for that, easy recoil, bigger head hitboxes, i don't even consider graphics good, it is goofy in css and graphics is irrelevant in counter-strike. It's soon to be completely dead now since cgs folded. Idiots from Valve cut the amount of 1.6 players exactly in half with recent destructive patch and it still has more players.

http://www.onlinegamingzeitgeist.com/games/
http://archive.gamespy.com/stats/
Azrael1111
Profile Joined July 2008
United States550 Posts
December 21 2008 02:09 GMT
#20
CSS recoil is more random, thus the game less skillful.
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