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Morzas
Profile Joined August 2005
United States387 Posts
March 26 2008 02:18 GMT
#101
http://www.dota-allstars.com/replay/34877/index.html

I'm a pub player. Here's a replay of me trying out a Refresher Orb on a Dark Seer.
What has four wheels and flies? Stephen Hawking on LSD!
Aurious
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1772 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-26 02:42:32
March 26 2008 02:33 GMT
#102
Nevermind i figured it out
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
March 26 2008 04:31 GMT
#103
On March 26 2008 10:44 Ack1027 wrote:
I think you meant tauren, if you didn't it was still pimp anyway. Kinda made me wonder what his skillbuild was...it was obvious he got all 3 before level 6.


Not a bad idea since mana cost scales with fissure level, if you are playing block stun its do-able.

Again SF buying wards is dumb 6 wards = 600 gold, @2600 and @3200 are two very different items. At 2200 versus 1610 two very different items. Guess what, all 4 items are use-able on SF, wards not so smart.
Get it by your hands...
!BigBlind!
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
69 Posts
March 26 2008 05:23 GMT
#104
[image loading]

http://www.dota-allstars.com/replay/34894/index.html - BigBlind - Pugna

Replay of a scrim against Domain of Pain. We went a push strat and it was a very close match.

Be sure to watch the crow chase toward the end, it was really long and three heroes with blink chasing a bird is pretty own. I was controlling the crow.
My Replay Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=68666
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
March 26 2008 10:43 GMT
#105
oh sry mr pro for not being able to speak a fluent english, i thought it was not needed in TL.net but maybe i'm kinda new

also i don't really care about the flames of a guy i don't even know so u can cut that, i play dota for fun (and yes, i'm noob and dont need a t-shirt to feel nice)

again , maiden 6.51 reps anybody plz
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 26 2008 17:59 GMT
#106
On March 26 2008 10:19 !BigBlind! wrote:
The MYM v VP game hardly deserves that title, it was nearly MYM-2 v VP.

Also:
[image loading]


http://www.dota-allstars.com/replay/34868/index.html

People were complaining that they'd never heard of anyone in my replays, so here's Hitomi.
He's the puck - IndigoChildren.

We solo each other in middle Kop vs Puck, it was pretty decent. Be sure to watch what he does when the ES ganks, pimpest plays material.


ive heard of hitomi ofc and im new, hes in emg right
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 26 2008 18:00 GMT
#107
im gonna ask the obvious question here, bigblind do you have any good qop replays?
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 26 2008 18:01 GMT
#108
in lower level chinese pubs i get dagon with qop like 99% and it owns
!BigBlind!
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
69 Posts
March 26 2008 18:23 GMT
#109
He was in eMg as eMg.Andre.

He's in the new Team Pandemic, they're definitely going to be a force in North American play.
http://www.mymym.com/en/news/12857.html

In the replay with Hitomi I play QoP.

I hardly ever get dagon on qop.
My Replay Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=68666
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 26 2008 18:48 GMT
#110
i know its not standard i just fool around in lower level chinese pubs, for example my teammate once got scolded for getting 3 bracers with n'aix by a sf who got lothars lol, when i said you shouldnt talk you got lothars he immediately retorts, you've never seen a sf go lothars?
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 26 2008 18:49 GMT
#111
and today i also played a kael who went lothars, chinese pubbies love lothars
!BigBlind!
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
69 Posts
March 26 2008 18:53 GMT
#112
Lothars SF will be fairly common in 6.51
My Replay Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=68666
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 26 2008 18:59 GMT
#113
oh ok.. i got a question, i wanna start playing in more cws with the people i play with, since I've started dota i've played qop in perhaps 80% of my games but she gets banned or taken too often. What are some heroes that dont get banned/picked often but can be very good when used well. Carry/non carry all works.
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
March 26 2008 19:13 GMT
#114
tiny mag viper necrolyte bane, rarely get banned unless it's someone's signature hero but they can be really good (moreso than most other heroes) depending on who plays them.
('''(G_G/'''')
!BigBlind!
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
69 Posts
March 26 2008 19:15 GMT
#115
Zeus, Sand King, Mag, Furion, Viper, Warlock, NA, Lina, Sven, Potm, Leshrac, Bristleback, QoP, Tiny, ES, Shadow Fiend, Treant, CK, Puck, Centaur, Terror Blade.
My Replay Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=68666
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
March 26 2008 20:42 GMT
#116
On March 27 2008 03:59 zulu_nation8 wrote:
oh ok.. i got a question, i wanna start playing in more cws with the people i play with, since I've started dota i've played qop in perhaps 80% of my games but she gets banned or taken too often. What are some heroes that dont get banned/picked often but can be very good when used well. Carry/non carry all works.


Really man?

A better question are what heroes don't get banned/picked frequently END question mark, simply because almost every hero in dota can be used with a good lineup+players.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 26 2008 20:51 GMT
#117
what are some common logic behind lineups, the few cws i have played in its been 4+1 carry with the usual stun/nukers and a tb/sf, etc carry.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-26 21:12:32
March 26 2008 21:11 GMT
#118
General things you should think about when making a lineup:
Teamwork ability, aoe and damage able to be dealt per second, synergy of lane partners, ability to take down Roshan, disables, and late game transition ability.

There's a lot of people who are unaware that dota is currently at the stage where you can lose a game entirely because of the picks you make, so that before the actual game is played you have already lost. [ Considering equal or near equal skill levels ] The absolute best lane combos you can have are Lesh/Lina + Stunners including Sven/CK/SK/Skel King/NA etc. People get imaginative and run stuff like Pudge/Viper which works well too. THD/Pug is another good lane combo that was popular in older versions.

I always made the lineups for my team when we played competitively. The best thing is to have a team of 5 players who are able to execute every role. There's a lot more roles than you think: Solo, support, support-secondary carry, carry, pusher, initiator, follow-up initiator, ganker/roamer, jungle, jungle-ganker etc.

In my honest opinion it is not that hard to get good at DotA, compared to other games. To be even more specific, I believe a lot of ' good ' North American teams and Asian teams are simply recognized because they have 5 or more people who are dedicated and enough of them are able to execute ANY lineup. This applies to say 2nd-3rd tier international teams not to top tier teams like SK, MYM, VP etc.

For example, my old team was all people I taught to play DotA from scratch, brand new, they had to GO OUT and buy war3 and expansion. Even considering this, we got into cal-i, htgn-pro, won some in MYM prides, got to playoffs in HTGN and TGL. Thing is, we never really broke through and were only semi-known because I was the only dependable solo AND jungle player on my team. I actually prefer to play support/support-carry roles.

This was one of the reasons our team called it quits because we got to a point where we would rather play for fun than have everyone learn how to jungle or learn the other roles correctly.

If you have a team with good players that can execute every role, or enough players to fill up the roles then you can run borderline ineffective shit like Juggernaught [ prime example ] and still win games in good fashion. Jugg would never be used in a serious MYM VP match, and if he was it's because the team using him spent a lot of time perfecting some strategy that made great use of him.

Anytime you see Vigoss getting dagon, its not because dagon is good, its because of game theory. When you play at that high of a level, getting away with low hp is very common and you want your hero geared towards burst damage, unlike before where it was clusterfuck aoe fights. With dagon your burst damage increases faster than any other item at that stage, THATS why dagon works on bad players and on good players when people like Vigoss are in charge of the hero.

zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 26 2008 21:46 GMT
#119
thanks, good post
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 26 2008 21:52 GMT
#120
so in that case, if I only play pub and with other people who i know which is like playing pub cuz we all suck, what can i do to improve? Try every hero? learn to last hit really well? Or try to play more clan wars.
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