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Etherone
United States1898 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On July 11 2010 15:46 Etherone wrote: maybe if you turned off those mods it'd help butt hurt you haven't done the same yet. That disco zepher is looking might fine right now. Also i think hon should come out with more patches limiting those mods. I remember when you could mod the camera distance to be further back and that was banned because of imbalances basically what jeejee is doin. edit: i also see everyone is unbanned -2 i was wondering why elemenope got 2 week bands i came up with this + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4813/ohlooklol.png) yes between page 1 and 6 its all the dota thread | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
I have had almost no access to internet for the past 2.5 weeks and won't for a few more days Doesn't hon have a tournament mode or something that doesn't let you use mods? | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
Should just be a "no mod" mode or something though imo 1) Anyone want to explain blood chalice to me? As far as I can tell it's really good on hb/succ/devo as an early item (especially succ wat)? Maybe pretty good on jera/mojo vj? Usable on smith/behe/pebs/acc/dw? I haven't played dota in almost a year so yeah 2) I'm guessing elec solo mid doesn't work anymore without the free mock? 3) Is eng bad now? It seems like he's still okay but just a ganker/pusher now. Also his turret sounds really awkward to place 4) Is rampage super cool now? Does horned strike still have that retarded animation? Can you ult someone then use charge to leap them with you? Can you ult someone then blink them with you? 5) Is gauntlet useful now? How do you play gauntlet/balph anyways? Blink on gaunt and play like a pudge/vs combo? I have no clue about balph tho 6) Also how do you play glad/boatman? In dota I was a pubstar and stacked runed axes so I could oneshot creep waves but I think that's bad I was thinking like shroud+deso+phase or something like that That's a lot of questions but I haven't played in weeks :[ edit: numbered it because that seems to get more help most of the time | ||
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Glull
Germany404 Posts
2) elec solo mid never worked, it just took some time for a lot of people to figure out the counter (harass like mad, fight for runes or just dont solo mid vs him) 3) engineer is now reasonably balanced. still annoying (read:strong) ult, but hes not a carry anymore and not a 100%-banned-hero. 4)yes/yes/no/no 5)yes/gauntlet is a burst-damage ganker comparable to deadwood or devourer, so portal key is an option but not absolutely necessary since you have plenty slow and stun effects/balph is running around until your ult isnt greyed out and displays a number >80 and subsequently pressing that button. 6) get one runed axe to farm, rest depends on the enemy team. usually its shrunken head or frostburn followed by either more dps or survivability. (demonic, heart, crit, symbol...) | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
Urn is infinitely more useful with it's heal/nuke and +6 STR. It will always be better because you can opt for a +3/+6 Int item on heroes like Sven and CK starting to fix your mana pool issues (singular slow regen is shit and always will be shit early on). All heroes can use the HP bonus. Wand has +3 to all and a far better active. Bottle gives better everything overall if you need mana on demand. On top of all this, you have so much better item progression into any of the previous items than you have over Chalice/Ring: 1. To progress into Urn - Double +3 STRs mixed into your starting items, or +3 STR/+3 Int, or if you got balls, +3 STR/+3 STR/+3 Int/Salve 2. Into Wand, Trip Branches, or Stick/2 Branches, plus whatever heal For Ring, you have RoR and Sobi, two of the most fucking useless starting items ever. Only time I might even remotely consider going Ring is on Skeleton King where I am playing a massive bait-setup role. Such a shitty item that could have been good if it weren't for the RoR/Sobi set up. | ||
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Garrl
Scotland1979 Posts
Edit: holy shit. I predict KOTF being the most played in the next two weeks. So insane. | ||
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Wala.Revolution
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What happened? | ||
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Wala.Revolution
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Wala.Revolution
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Wala.Revolution
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Wala.Revolution
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On July 12 2010 00:36 Judicator wrote: Soul Ring/Chalice I am finding more and more to be a useless item for its price range at 800 and 825. Let's break it down for a second. You have Wand/Supply at 500 and 606, Bottle at 600, Urn at 875. Urn is infinitely more useful with it's heal/nuke and +6 STR. It will always be better because you can opt for a +3/+6 Int item on heroes like Sven and CK starting to fix your mana pool issues (singular slow regen is shit and always will be shit early on). All heroes can use the HP bonus. Wand has +3 to all and a far better active. Bottle gives better everything overall if you need mana on demand. On top of all this, you have so much better item progression into any of the previous items than you have over Chalice/Ring: 1. To progress into Urn - Double +3 STRs mixed into your starting items, or +3 STR/+3 Int, or if you got balls, +3 STR/+3 STR/+3 Int/Salve 2. Into Wand, Trip Branches, or Stick/2 Branches, plus whatever heal For Ring, you have RoR and Sobi, two of the most fucking useless starting items ever. Only time I might even remotely consider going Ring is on Skeleton King where I am playing a massive bait-setup role. Such a shitty item that could have been good if it weren't for the RoR/Sobi set up. This is exactly what I think. I've tried Soul Ring a great many deal of times but I don't find it very effective at all except on maybe Techies where he needs extreme mana or Ogre Magi. I keep encountering friends who love to use it on every strength hero or somebody with high HP, it's not that great of an item. | ||
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semantics
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CrownRoyal
Vatican City State1872 Posts
On July 12 2010 05:26 Wala.Revolution wrote: whoever's casting that's not breaky doesn't know steamboots can be made with fleetfeet and apprentice's robe what i just tried to mix red boots + fleetfeet + apprentice robe and i didnt get steamboots | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
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Butigroove
Seychelles2061 Posts
On July 12 2010 05:49 CrownRoyal wrote: what i just tried to mix red boots + fleetfeet + apprentice robe and i didnt get steamboots he meant with gloves of haste/boots/fleetfeet OR robe | ||
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EmeraldSparks
United States1451 Posts
sometimes i get it on windrunner or lina but that's of course super dangerous since they have no hit points, but oh well | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On July 12 2010 06:30 EmeraldSparks wrote: i love soul ring, if you get it on DK you can spam fire like crazy, which really hurts quite a lot but you can't normally do it because you'll run out of mana in no time at all sometimes i get it on windrunner or lina but that's of course super dangerous since they have no hit points, but oh well Why the fuck would you get it on DK to spam a skill that pushes creeps towards your opponent, making it both easier for them to both control the lane (namely to kill you) and to farm? I can see it on a THD for a clutch nuke or ice path. WR is no need cause if you're running out of mana that much on WR, you're definitely fucking up. | ||
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