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Etherone
United States1898 Posts
On June 19 2010 17:52 Dead9 wrote: why? 500 gold is only delaying your claymore, which is all the lane rape staying power you need he means a straight from fountain item. | ||
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rabidch
United States20288 Posts
On June 19 2010 14:34 EmeraldSparks wrote: I'm going to get a new computer, and then I'm going to get HoN (my current computer won't run HoN.) TDA is shit. Slithice opens with RoP, you know the game's going to be shit from there. Leoric farms two bracers and treads farming top lane 30 minutes 0-0-1, doesn't TP the whole game. Boots huskar ends game 0-15, we tell jungle is warded and he goes to farm anyway. NA gets ult, roams and doesn't use it for ten minutes, gets four levels under. I'm crying. Or something. who the hell plays tda, you are 5 years behind on this | ||
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Etherone
United States1898 Posts
On June 19 2010 12:24 OmgIRok wrote: Mama just killed a man Put a gun against his head Pulled my trigger, now he's dead Mama, life has just begun But now I've gone and thrown it all away Mama, ooh Didn't mean to make you cry If I'm not back again this time tomorrow Carry on, carry on as if nothing really matters too late, my time has come sends shivers down my spine body's aching all the time goodbye everybody I've got to go gotta leave you all behind and face the truth mama ooo, i don't want to die I sometimes wish I'd never been born at all | ||
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Butigroove
Seychelles2061 Posts
he's right. Saving gold for claymore at start is much better option in any game, especially international competition. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On June 19 2010 14:13 Butigroove wrote: I realized what you meant. NA HoN is going strong gogo testie win $40k tourney plz You also realize that NA DotA was tops and competitive internationally for a period of time too right? Every other region comes out with new world class teams and players every version or so, NA comes out with nothing. If Fear didn't come back, Demon would be our best player, who essentially is the best of the DXDi frogs-in-a-well and actually wanted to improve and jump out of the proverbial well. Funny how EmeraldSparks thinks HoN will be any different from DotA. | ||
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OmgIRok
Taiwan2699 Posts
On June 19 2010 18:06 Etherone wrote: too late, my time has come sends shivers down my spine body's aching all the time goodbye everybody I've got to go gotta leave you all behind and face the truth mama ooo, i don't want to die I sometimes wish I'd never been born at all i see a little silhouetto of a man scaramouch, scaramouch, will you do the Fandango Thunderbolt and lightning, very, very frightening me (Galileo) Galileo (Galileo) Galileo, Galileo Figaro Magnifico-o-o-o-o I'm just a poor boy nobody loves me He's just a poor boy from a poor family Spare him his life from this monstrosity | ||
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EmeraldSparks
United States1451 Posts
On June 19 2010 18:04 rabidch wrote: who the hell plays tda, you are 5 years behind on this It's actually not that bad when there are retards on both teams. I was just on the receiving end of too many pubstomps today. Anyway, I don't have enough friends to join an open league. On June 20 2010 00:27 Judicator wrote: You also realize that NA DotA was tops and competitive internationally for a period of time too right? Every other region comes out with new world class teams and players every version or so, NA comes out with nothing. If Fear didn't come back, Demon would be our best player, who essentially is the best of the DXDi frogs-in-a-well and actually wanted to improve and jump out of the proverbial well. Funny how EmeraldSparks thinks HoN will be any different from DotA. Well, there's a ladder in HoN, right? So at least you won't be playing with complete morons. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
You'll encounter idiots who will sit on skills to steal a kill, try to out last hit your carries, as well as other shitty habits all in the name of "stats". HoN literally gave them a (horribly incorrect) justification for doing all of the shit you shouldn't do as a player. In other words, you'll be playing with scrubs who are so dead set on thinking that they're doing the right thing (the equivalent of DotA dumbshits who try to stack Vanguards and Butterflies) when they're not. | ||
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EmeraldSparks
United States1451 Posts
On June 20 2010 02:39 Judicator wrote: So you honestly think stat tracking, and a ladder system will make it "better"? I have said this before, all of the HoN features for tracking "performance" makes the community infinitely shittier. You'll encounter idiots who will sit on skills to steal a kill, try to out last hit your carries, as well as other shitty habits all in the name of "stats". HoN literally gave them a (horribly incorrect) justification for doing all of the shit you shouldn't do as a player. In other words, you'll be playing with scrubs who are so dead set on thinking that they're doing the right thing (the equivalent of DotA dumbshits who try to stack Vanguards and Butterflies) when they're not. Sorry, I haven't seen you post about it before. The thread's pretty long. I agree, stat tracking is kind of dumb, and definitely doesn't take care of run of the mill retardedness like never carrying TP for tower dives or never showing up to teamfights. I don't quite know how the ladder system works, though, but hopefully it only keeps track of "team ELO" and adjusts everyone's score based on that (and not in-game stats), right? People who go for individual glory and consistently sink their teams should see their ranking go down over time. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
The problem with your last sentence is that you don't see that every scrub and pub believes in their ability to carry how ever misplaced that is; you see this in pubs/scrubs who are kill-reliant for their success in any given game. And no, because the more stats you are provided with, the more shit you will be judged on even without any context to those stats. I always judge a player on the first 2 creep waves to see how well they lane, and from that I can pretty much determine where the person stands relative to myself. Fairly early in any given game, people who play with me will usually hear me say, we gotta do X because this player Y isn't going to do Z for us (reliably). | ||
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rabidch
United States20288 Posts
On June 20 2010 02:39 Judicator wrote: So you honestly think stat tracking, and a ladder system will make it "better"? I have said this before, all of the HoN features for tracking "performance" makes the community infinitely shittier. You'll encounter idiots who will sit on skills to steal a kill, try to out last hit your carries, as well as other shitty habits all in the name of "stats". HoN literally gave them a (horribly incorrect) justification for doing all of the shit you shouldn't do as a player. In other words, you'll be playing with scrubs who are so dead set on thinking that they're doing the right thing (the equivalent of DotA dumbshits who try to stack Vanguards and Butterflies) when they're not. I've been playing THR2 again for about a week now and this is pretty accurate except about kills because nobody cares about kills in THR2. THR's ELO system only increases the amount of smugness and rage which is annoying because I've seen a good amount of shit talk and less-than-stellar play. While you actually get mostly decent pub-level people or the rare mid/high level NA DotA player there are plenty of idiots that walk around that are clueless and basically your team has to figure out how to win with them. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
We occasionally run into the good NA player on TDA, the only one that impressed me was Chu. | ||
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rabidch
United States20288 Posts
On June 20 2010 04:49 Judicator wrote: I am on DotAPub's bots instead and its hilarious when I run into people on their top 25 lists. Had one person that I laned against solo tell me that 20-8 cs in 10 minutes was good when I came back to the lane after buying my Scepter straight up in the same amount of time. Ignorance is bliss. We occasionally run into the good NA player on TDA, the only one that impressed me was Chu. THR1 is basically pub level, while some high skill level are up on the ladder because of a 95% percent win rate most of the people in top 10 are basically ELO abusers or EM farmers that are now inactive because they realize they can't beat the abusers. Not to mention fountain farmers galore. THR2 ladder actually reflects some of the NA DotA pubstars. THR3 ladder actually reflects some of high skill NA DotA. Except wait, it's inactive. | ||
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lepape
Canada557 Posts
On June 20 2010 02:39 Judicator wrote: So you honestly think stat tracking, and a ladder system will make it "better"? I have said this before, all of the HoN features for tracking "performance" makes the community infinitely shittier. You'll encounter idiots who will sit on skills to steal a kill, try to out last hit your carries, as well as other shitty habits all in the name of "stats". HoN literally gave them a (horribly incorrect) justification for doing all of the shit you shouldn't do as a player. In other words, you'll be playing with scrubs who are so dead set on thinking that they're doing the right thing (the equivalent of DotA dumbshits who try to stack Vanguards and Butterflies) when they're not. Sure, but in the end, players who keep doing that will peak very quickly with their PSR rating. | ||
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DevAzTaYtA
Oman2005 Posts
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rabidch
United States20288 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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rabidch
United States20288 Posts
On June 20 2010 07:13 rabidch wrote: Hey isexu/omgirok I hope you get featured in this http://dotasource.de/dota-szene/szene-matches-replays/22244-rgc-rapefest-thread-für-replayrapefreunde-8-replays/?s=e39ed62439f879a07597bb347d40180da9c5b41a fix oops | ||
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OmgIRok
Taiwan2699 Posts
you were right about us being lucky the whole bracket is south american / brazilians the other team doesn't even speak english | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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