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Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-12 16:30:46
March 12 2010 16:30 GMT
#15481
On March 13 2010 01:00 Alventenie wrote:
L you're amazing imo.

I too agree that L should do the next Quiz, preferably soon.

jpopidol
Profile Joined November 2008
108 Posts
March 12 2010 17:34 GMT
#15482
need like 2 other people to help me raise phb to 1750ish, any volunteers? Oh, after final fantasy 13 of course...
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
March 12 2010 17:43 GMT
#15483
I'll probably gaming in about 2-3 hours D=

Posting cause I have nothing to do at school.

Hmm, how do you guys build cd?
Stuck.
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
March 12 2010 17:50 GMT
#15484
lotta people get hotb or hood on him first.
boots you can choose whatever, i personally like BoTs or treads, i don't think he really needs the phase cuz he has really high movespeed and i'd rather get more AS for the dps

after that, it's really flexible. the main core items id consider are probably geometers bane, sny (forget what its called), or deso
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BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
March 12 2010 17:51 GMT
#15485
On March 13 2010 02:34 jpopidol wrote:
need like 2 other people to help me raise phb to 1750ish, any volunteers? Oh, after final fantasy 13 of course...


what do you mean by helping you? like feed you psr? haha
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BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
March 12 2010 17:51 GMT
#15486
and testie why didn't u make it to the ESL finals vs buttonbashers? ;(
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Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
March 12 2010 18:07 GMT
#15487
Does helm only negate auto-attack damage? Physical? Or all incoming damage?

Played about 4 games with him recently; all I went mid, went boots/bottle (not starting) then farmed tankish items. Going both shaman and hotbl seems too tankish. Usually I go frostburn (400 hp, +ms, slow, great item) and after I go geo/frost, or just stay at frostburn and go for shieldbreaker. Games are over about this point now.

What's the fully tiered-out cd build? Boots, Geo, Frost, Savage, Shield... and heart? Symbol?
Stuck.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
March 12 2010 18:08 GMT
#15488
LOL I just found out honcast isn't blocked roflrofl.
Stuck.
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
March 12 2010 18:11 GMT
#15489
On March 13 2010 02:43 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Hmm, how do you guys build cd?


The tank build works fine. You can conduit for auto-attack damage in teamfights. HotBL, Headdress, Barbed Armor, then Geometer's or Frostburn. For boots, Ghost work better than Steam, imo. If you trade in your boots for Post Haste, I think Heart is a nice 6th item to finish out the build.
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
March 12 2010 18:23 GMT
#15490
On March 13 2010 03:11 Tadzio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2010 02:43 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Hmm, how do you guys build cd?


The tank build works fine. You can conduit for auto-attack damage in teamfights. HotBL, Headdress, Barbed Armor, then Geometer's or Frostburn. For boots, Ghost work better than Steam, imo. If you trade in your boots for Post Haste, I think Heart is a nice 6th item to finish out the build.


yeah, it really depends on your playstyle though and how your team plays. if you're going to be ganking a ton with cd, phase is probably better cuz you're gonna needa chase them down.

if your team is really actively ganking, imo treads are better. also if teamfights start really early on, treads are better, cuz you're not gonna be chasing down people as much as just attacking enemies as they're getting ganked or in team fights
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Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
March 12 2010 18:36 GMT
#15491
On March 13 2010 03:23 BlueRoyaL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2010 03:11 Tadzio wrote:
On March 13 2010 02:43 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Hmm, how do you guys build cd?


The tank build works fine. You can conduit for auto-attack damage in teamfights. HotBL, Headdress, Barbed Armor, then Geometer's or Frostburn. For boots, Ghost work better than Steam, imo. If you trade in your boots for Post Haste, I think Heart is a nice 6th item to finish out the build.


yeah, it really depends on your playstyle though and how your team plays. if you're going to be ganking a ton with cd, phase is probably better cuz you're gonna needa chase them down.

if your team is really actively ganking, imo treads are better. also if teamfights start really early on, treads are better, cuz you're not gonna be chasing down people as much as just attacking enemies as they're getting ganked or in team fights


It's down to personal preference, of course.... I used to get steamboots on him cuz I thought "I have a passive that gives me movespeed, blahblahblah." Then I realized that I only get that movespeed when people cast things on me, and if I've got my ult on and barbed armor up they don't tend to cast on me very much. Mostly they run away. soo yea
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
March 12 2010 18:41 GMT
#15492
For the spirits of defiler's ult, do they deal % damage? Honwiki doesn't say.

I usually can't drain damage well with cd - even with my tank items the 700 range seems a bit too small as enemy carries I faced were archer, arachna and my pub team is too scared to intitiate T_T.
Stuck.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
March 12 2010 18:45 GMT
#15493
No, the static discharge skill gives 3% x level in skill. It slows down enemies if they use single-target stun on cd as well (80%, decreasing over 1.2 seconds) as well as a small magic damage.

Stuck.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-12 18:52:49
March 12 2010 18:51 GMT
#15494
Seems like some casters are sometimes wrong. I mean I'm not faulting them, but some things are quite obvious, and they seem to misinterpret them a lot.

EDIT: actually the other two casters corrected it.
Stuck.
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
March 12 2010 18:56 GMT
#15495
On March 13 2010 03:41 Wala.Revolution wrote:
For the spirits of defiler's ult, do they deal % damage? Honwiki doesn't say.

I usually can't drain damage well with cd - even with my tank items the 700 range seems a bit too small as enemy carries I faced were archer, arachna and my pub team is too scared to intitiate T_T.


Conduit the opposing team's tank. He's less likely to run around or get focused down early in the teamfight, he usually has good base damage, and you can feel free to attack the carry without worrying about limiting your DPS potential.
bhp255
Profile Joined July 2008
United States600 Posts
March 12 2010 18:56 GMT
#15496
just get shrunken head, conduit someone and charge in w/o fear!
Following Okazaki's steps to becoming a Fuuko Master
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
March 12 2010 19:03 GMT
#15497
Guess Shruken > shaman if team doesn't need barrier.

Thoughts on riftshards on cd?
Stuck.
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-12 19:13:13
March 12 2010 19:09 GMT
#15498
On March 13 2010 04:03 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Guess Shruken > shaman if team doesn't need barrier.

Thoughts on riftshards on cd?


I've never gotten riftshards on him. Headdress is close to 2k cheaper than Shrunken head and gives significant regen and permanent protection. Consider that when you're making your decision. Tank-build CD is meant to outlast his opponents, not deal burst damage. Shrunken shines for burst damage.
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
March 12 2010 19:12 GMT
#15499
i really dont get the difference in boots.
probably because im still not that advanced into the game
but why other than ghost marchers or post haste are the other boots even important?
i feel like ghost marchers is the best choice because you get that extra boost which can really help escape or kill, depending on the situation ofc
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
March 12 2010 19:20 GMT
#15500
there is no difference imo, i always win and i just buy the recommended items Lmfao. But seriously the game is just like dota, except different map, sexy chars, and lastly, its actually approachable to a guy who never played it. I tried dota for wc3, such a epic failure of a game and community, i mean u cant even join a game unless you download the map so pathetic.
joined TL.net in 2006 (aka GMer) - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=41944#2
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