• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:45
CEST 02:45
KST 09:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun8[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists20[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced
Tourneys
SEL Masters #6 - Solar vs Classic (SC: Evo) $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) FSL Season 10 Individual Championship WardiTV Spring Cup
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion JaeDong's ASL S21 Ro16 Post-Review ASL21 General Discussion Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review [ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 1 [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May Korean KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2723 users

[HoN/DotA] Let's Play~!! - Page 775

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 773 774 775 776 777 1664 Next
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-12 16:30:46
March 12 2010 16:30 GMT
#15481
On March 13 2010 01:00 Alventenie wrote:
L you're amazing imo.

I too agree that L should do the next Quiz, preferably soon.

jpopidol
Profile Joined November 2008
108 Posts
March 12 2010 17:34 GMT
#15482
need like 2 other people to help me raise phb to 1750ish, any volunteers? Oh, after final fantasy 13 of course...
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
March 12 2010 17:43 GMT
#15483
I'll probably gaming in about 2-3 hours D=

Posting cause I have nothing to do at school.

Hmm, how do you guys build cd?
Stuck.
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
March 12 2010 17:50 GMT
#15484
lotta people get hotb or hood on him first.
boots you can choose whatever, i personally like BoTs or treads, i don't think he really needs the phase cuz he has really high movespeed and i'd rather get more AS for the dps

after that, it's really flexible. the main core items id consider are probably geometers bane, sny (forget what its called), or deso
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
March 12 2010 17:51 GMT
#15485
On March 13 2010 02:34 jpopidol wrote:
need like 2 other people to help me raise phb to 1750ish, any volunteers? Oh, after final fantasy 13 of course...


what do you mean by helping you? like feed you psr? haha
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
March 12 2010 17:51 GMT
#15486
and testie why didn't u make it to the ESL finals vs buttonbashers? ;(
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
March 12 2010 18:07 GMT
#15487
Does helm only negate auto-attack damage? Physical? Or all incoming damage?

Played about 4 games with him recently; all I went mid, went boots/bottle (not starting) then farmed tankish items. Going both shaman and hotbl seems too tankish. Usually I go frostburn (400 hp, +ms, slow, great item) and after I go geo/frost, or just stay at frostburn and go for shieldbreaker. Games are over about this point now.

What's the fully tiered-out cd build? Boots, Geo, Frost, Savage, Shield... and heart? Symbol?
Stuck.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
March 12 2010 18:08 GMT
#15488
LOL I just found out honcast isn't blocked roflrofl.
Stuck.
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
March 12 2010 18:11 GMT
#15489
On March 13 2010 02:43 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Hmm, how do you guys build cd?


The tank build works fine. You can conduit for auto-attack damage in teamfights. HotBL, Headdress, Barbed Armor, then Geometer's or Frostburn. For boots, Ghost work better than Steam, imo. If you trade in your boots for Post Haste, I think Heart is a nice 6th item to finish out the build.
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
March 12 2010 18:23 GMT
#15490
On March 13 2010 03:11 Tadzio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2010 02:43 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Hmm, how do you guys build cd?


The tank build works fine. You can conduit for auto-attack damage in teamfights. HotBL, Headdress, Barbed Armor, then Geometer's or Frostburn. For boots, Ghost work better than Steam, imo. If you trade in your boots for Post Haste, I think Heart is a nice 6th item to finish out the build.


yeah, it really depends on your playstyle though and how your team plays. if you're going to be ganking a ton with cd, phase is probably better cuz you're gonna needa chase them down.

if your team is really actively ganking, imo treads are better. also if teamfights start really early on, treads are better, cuz you're not gonna be chasing down people as much as just attacking enemies as they're getting ganked or in team fights
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
March 12 2010 18:36 GMT
#15491
On March 13 2010 03:23 BlueRoyaL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2010 03:11 Tadzio wrote:
On March 13 2010 02:43 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Hmm, how do you guys build cd?


The tank build works fine. You can conduit for auto-attack damage in teamfights. HotBL, Headdress, Barbed Armor, then Geometer's or Frostburn. For boots, Ghost work better than Steam, imo. If you trade in your boots for Post Haste, I think Heart is a nice 6th item to finish out the build.


yeah, it really depends on your playstyle though and how your team plays. if you're going to be ganking a ton with cd, phase is probably better cuz you're gonna needa chase them down.

if your team is really actively ganking, imo treads are better. also if teamfights start really early on, treads are better, cuz you're not gonna be chasing down people as much as just attacking enemies as they're getting ganked or in team fights


It's down to personal preference, of course.... I used to get steamboots on him cuz I thought "I have a passive that gives me movespeed, blahblahblah." Then I realized that I only get that movespeed when people cast things on me, and if I've got my ult on and barbed armor up they don't tend to cast on me very much. Mostly they run away. soo yea
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
March 12 2010 18:41 GMT
#15492
For the spirits of defiler's ult, do they deal % damage? Honwiki doesn't say.

I usually can't drain damage well with cd - even with my tank items the 700 range seems a bit too small as enemy carries I faced were archer, arachna and my pub team is too scared to intitiate T_T.
Stuck.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
March 12 2010 18:45 GMT
#15493
No, the static discharge skill gives 3% x level in skill. It slows down enemies if they use single-target stun on cd as well (80%, decreasing over 1.2 seconds) as well as a small magic damage.

Stuck.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-12 18:52:49
March 12 2010 18:51 GMT
#15494
Seems like some casters are sometimes wrong. I mean I'm not faulting them, but some things are quite obvious, and they seem to misinterpret them a lot.

EDIT: actually the other two casters corrected it.
Stuck.
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
March 12 2010 18:56 GMT
#15495
On March 13 2010 03:41 Wala.Revolution wrote:
For the spirits of defiler's ult, do they deal % damage? Honwiki doesn't say.

I usually can't drain damage well with cd - even with my tank items the 700 range seems a bit too small as enemy carries I faced were archer, arachna and my pub team is too scared to intitiate T_T.


Conduit the opposing team's tank. He's less likely to run around or get focused down early in the teamfight, he usually has good base damage, and you can feel free to attack the carry without worrying about limiting your DPS potential.
bhp255
Profile Joined July 2008
United States600 Posts
March 12 2010 18:56 GMT
#15496
just get shrunken head, conduit someone and charge in w/o fear!
Following Okazaki's steps to becoming a Fuuko Master
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
March 12 2010 19:03 GMT
#15497
Guess Shruken > shaman if team doesn't need barrier.

Thoughts on riftshards on cd?
Stuck.
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-12 19:13:13
March 12 2010 19:09 GMT
#15498
On March 13 2010 04:03 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Guess Shruken > shaman if team doesn't need barrier.

Thoughts on riftshards on cd?


I've never gotten riftshards on him. Headdress is close to 2k cheaper than Shrunken head and gives significant regen and permanent protection. Consider that when you're making your decision. Tank-build CD is meant to outlast his opponents, not deal burst damage. Shrunken shines for burst damage.
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
March 12 2010 19:12 GMT
#15499
i really dont get the difference in boots.
probably because im still not that advanced into the game
but why other than ghost marchers or post haste are the other boots even important?
i feel like ghost marchers is the best choice because you get that extra boost which can really help escape or kill, depending on the situation ofc
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
March 12 2010 19:20 GMT
#15500
there is no difference imo, i always win and i just buy the recommended items Lmfao. But seriously the game is just like dota, except different map, sexy chars, and lastly, its actually approachable to a guy who never played it. I tried dota for wc3, such a epic failure of a game and community, i mean u cant even join a game unless you download the map so pathetic.
joined TL.net in 2006 (aka GMer) - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=41944#2
Prev 1 773 774 775 776 777 1664 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
StarCraft Evolution League #21
CranKy Ducklings71
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 109
ROOTCatZ 0
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 5962
Artosis 604
910 35
NaDa 14
League of Legends
Doublelift4139
Counter-Strike
fl0m3630
Other Games
summit1g10436
tarik_tv6020
Day[9].tv684
C9.Mang0506
JimRising 336
WinterStarcraft110
Maynarde86
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick976
BasetradeTV152
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream58
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 95
• davetesta28
• musti20045 23
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra895
• Day9tv684
Upcoming Events
GSL
8h 45m
Cure vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Bunny
KCM Race Survival
9h 15m
Big Gabe
11h 15m
Replay Cast
23h 15m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
Escore
1d 9h
OSC
1d 12h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
2 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
3 days
IPSL
3 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Snow vs Flash
GSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-28
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.