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GogoKodo
Canada1785 Posts
On February 03 2010 05:16 Amnesia wrote: In upper level HoN games (competitive play), what is the format used? Allpick? Single Draft? What? Captains mode I believe. Which is Allpick with bans basically. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On February 03 2010 06:22 GogoKodo wrote: Captains mode I believe. Which is Allpick with bans basically. Banning Pick its called in HoN. (CM is in DotA) 3 bans each, then 1-2-2-2-2-1 allpick mode. | ||
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uberMatt
Canada659 Posts
whp play like a bunch of dxd scrubs and have such horrible, horrible lanes can't believe they managed to get a game off [5] honourable mention for chu who has some of the best individual micro ive seen in hon game 2 showed the skill gap pretty clearly and seriously, demented/pesti top and andro/hogan bot against ophelia? painful to watch asdadsadasda man spoilers are tough, got it on my 8th attempt though | ||
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Bearded Elder29904 Posts
On February 03 2010 07:03 uberMatt wrote: + Show Spoiler [5 vs whp] + whp play like a bunch of dxd scrubs and have such horrible, horrible lanes can't believe they managed to get a game off [5] honourable mention for chu who has some of the best individual micro ive seen in hon game 2 showed the skill gap pretty clearly and seriously, demented/pesti top and andro/hogan bot against ophelia? painful to watch asdadsadasda man spoilers are tough, got it on my 8th attempt though + Show Spoiler + You gotta be kidding buddy. TBH WHP is overall better than 5 and have more wins in tournaments then fiVe has  well chu is chu, he's fcking incredible | ||
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Butigroove
Seychelles2061 Posts
On February 03 2010 07:03 uberMatt wrote: + Show Spoiler [5 vs whp] + whp play like a bunch of dxd scrubs and have such horrible, horrible lanes can't believe they managed to get a game off [5] honourable mention for chu who has some of the best individual micro ive seen in hon game 2 showed the skill gap pretty clearly and seriously, demented/pesti top and andro/hogan bot against ophelia? painful to watch asdadsadasda man spoilers are tough, got it on my 8th attempt though You calling WHP scrubs is pretty hilarious. LIKE OMFG FLASH IS SUCH A SCRUB, I CANT BELIEVE HE TOOK A GAME OFF JAEDONG. Game 4 showed the skill gap pretty clearly. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On February 03 2010 06:55 deconduo wrote: Banning Pick its called in HoN. (CM is in DotA) 3 bans each, then 1-2-2-2-2-1 allpick mode. I thought it was Banning Draft? maybe i'm wrong | ||
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Butigroove
Seychelles2061 Posts
On February 03 2010 09:08 Pokebunny wrote: I thought it was Banning Draft? maybe i'm wrong Banning draft is RD with bans, no ap. | ||
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GogoKodo
Canada1785 Posts
On February 03 2010 09:08 Pokebunny wrote: I thought it was Banning Draft? maybe i'm wrong I think the recent Alienware tournament is actually using Ban draft, but generally it's how deconduo said. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
I wouldn't say they are better. Testie / Levent` / Tabako / K`T / Blavo / Willdabeast vs Chu` / bkid / warden / fpigs / pig / dodo` we've always beat them more often, and we will continue to do so. | ||
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Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
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doktorLucifer
United States855 Posts
Is he that bad? Can he be only used for KSing? When I last played with him, I ended up with 2-3 kills, and more assists than anyone else on my team. I heard some things were better about him in a previous patch (like vanish), but I heard that disarm is somewhat new (which seems to shutdown carries pretty fast), and has silencing tool that can be used for field vision. Is he a bad character? Is he only good in non-competitive play? What's up with this character? | ||
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Etherone
United States1898 Posts
On February 03 2010 11:16 Thesecretaznman wrote: I'm pretty new to this game, so what I'd like to ask is why there's a "he's a noob" stigma to everyone who uses scout? Is he that bad? Can he be only used for KSing? When I last played with him, I ended up with 2-3 kills, and more assists than anyone else on my team. I heard some things were better about him in a previous patch (like vanish), but I heard that disarm is somewhat new (which seems to shutdown carries pretty fast), and has silencing tool that can be used for field vision. Is he a bad character? Is he only good in non-competitive play? What's up with this character? he isnt a really bad character but due to the fact that by instantly vanishing, and easily farming you are guaranteed a decent k:d this hero is played by countless retards who don't level wards, ( his best skill) and don't use them in team fights once they finally do get wards ( aoe silence) | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
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doktorLucifer
United States855 Posts
I've read some guides and what I do now is go level 1 wards then vanish, but is vanish needed early, or should I put points into my passive? | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On February 03 2010 11:27 Thesecretaznman wrote: Interesting... some guides say not to depend on scout as being a carry unless no one else picked one... but that may have changed now that he has a 6sec cooldown on vanish and a 4 attack high speed burst. :o I've read some guides and what I do now is go level 1 wards then vanish, but is vanish needed early, or should I put points into my passive? Well idiots scouts try to do burst dmg and fail after they can't sustain their high attack speed and someone with void tali just rapes you ass you just need to equip yourself accordingly. | ||
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doktorLucifer
United States855 Posts
On February 03 2010 11:32 Virtue wrote: Well idiots scouts try to do burst dmg and fail after they can't sustain their high attack speed and someone with void stone just rapes you ass you just need to equip yourself accordingly. Shouldn't be too hard, since an invisible character has a bit more leisure when it comes to clicking on enemy heroes and thinking about what he/she is doing. Since the vanish goes after the ulti, is it better to open a battle/gank with normal attack, or target fire ulti on one person? :o I imagine this is highly situational. If you just need to soften them for your allies, you can ulti, but if it's a dangerous carry, I think hitting him really quickly and activating a disarm is the better choice. | ||
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Tadzio
3340 Posts
TBH, I've won most of the pubs I've played as Scout-- which is more than I can say for most of the heroes in HoN-- but that's because pubs don't lane and gank as aggressively as competitive players. So, I'm usually allowed farm a Runed Axe in under 20 minutes and then turn Scout into a 1-man push with 500+ gpm income. And with that sorta income on a DPS hero it's quite easy to take out multiple targets in a teamfight without really trying. That being said, most people play Scout in ways that make him easy to ignore or counter. The reason people groan about him in pubs is that newer players play him like Nighthound with a frenzy attack. So they'll stand around invis, not farming, and not helping in teamfights unless the fight is already won. They'll rely too much on invis to protect them, so they'll stand around in exposed positions and any anti-invis items will turn the Scout into a feeder. They'll get single-target Orb items like Brutalizer (which just doesn't proc enough, even with flurry) and Frostburn (Scout doesn't need extra chase abilities), or they'll waste money on lifesteal when they don't need it (the only time Scout needs lifesteal is when his opponents are smart enough to get barbed armor). They won't get Electric Eyes, and when they do they leave it at level 1 so they can't use it in teamfights... etc etc. Anyway: Scout is a fun pub hero and he can do a lot of damage if played correctly. When played poorly, he's kinda worse than useless. There have been occasions where I've had a Scout teammate standing next to a couple enemies and I think to myself "oh, he wants to gank them." So I'll dive into the fray... and the Scout will just stand there, invis, and watch me die 1v2. That's never fun. | ||
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GogoKodo
Canada1785 Posts
http://honcast.com/2010/02/podcast-interview-with-clan-5-tabako-and-angrytestie/ You sound so Canadian when you have some longer sentences. Didn't really pick that up so much on vent and on hon. I wonder if I sound really Canadian too. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
I'm gonna turn up the man juice next time. | ||
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Elemenope
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
Why the fuck wasn't I mentioned ze | ||
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