True, but he's still not going to quit. Same with paper.

Oops, I assumed they were talking about dota. Now that I look at it, it's obvious they're talking about being perverts. Well, they're still not gonna quit, so my post is still valid.

Avius

Iraq1796 Posts

January 23 2008 01:09 GMT

#670

This thread has been officially hijacked by USA Shopping Maul. RAWRrrr~~~~~~~~~~~

Zelniq

United States7166 Posts

January 23 2008 02:15 GMT

#671

i'm lost

JeeJee

Canada5652 Posts

January 23 2008 03:18 GMT

#672

next time you ban people for breaking your rules
you might wanna tell them the rules beforehand
we can't read your mind moron

edit: @testie obviouslyy
edit#2: and it doesn't matter that you unbanned him. the ban in the first place was way over the top.

and the only reason i feel so strongly about this is a) it's perfectly legit in every possible way and b) you, yourself, have agreed (not remained quiet, but actually agreed, alongside me/cats/heen/whoever else was there) that it is perfectly accepted in our IH games(note i'm not using the word legal since it's obviously legal) to do so.

paper

13196 Posts

January 23 2008 03:53 GMT

#673

WHAT AR EYOU TALKIGN ABAOU T JEE JEE!!?1/1

is this about puj wars or dota? o_O?

JeeJee

Canada5652 Posts

January 23 2008 04:01 GMT

#674

i r suck at conciseness

ninjai edit: testie went /wrists over pintje BD'ing today and banned him from his games.

gets the same point across in like 1/10th of the words

paper

13196 Posts

January 23 2008 04:08 GMT

#675

if you ban pintje for BD, ban heen for all eternity lololol -_-

shit icefrog needs to fix:
sentinel tree location (all the top scourge creeps basically go into sentinel fountain)
scourge base (it's like twice the size of sentinel's?!)
make creeps spawn at the tree/throne -___- so pointless when your rax are gone and heroes are at throne but creeps arent -_-;

JeeJee

Canada5652 Posts

January 23 2008 04:15 GMT

#676

well there's a bunch of absolutely broken shit in dota =x
the ban would've made more sense if testie announced the rules before the game o-O

i dunno why people make a big deal out of all this stuff anyway. what should be the case is: if the map allows it, it's legal. if this creates a degenerate strategy (such as BD, multiple arcanes, ward thievery, etc.) then it's up to the maker to fix it. sirlin springs to mind here.

creating extra artificial rules within the game only causes problems. i am certain nobody here has a precise definition for BD (and trust me, it's more complicated than "attacking enemy buildings when your creep wave isn't there")

BottleAbuser

Korea (South)1888 Posts

January 23 2008 08:06 GMT

#677

Huh, I thought we've been over this. Maybe not.

There are several perceived imbalances that were not solved by the map maker (which makes him noob btw).

The ones that enough people agreed on became adopted by tournaments, which is why you get the hero bans, the arcane rings per team limitation, previously the mekansm per team limitation (before IceFrog finally got around to fixing it), etc. Seriously, go read a league's or tournament's official rules. For a well-made game, they'd be "don't use maphack" and that'd be basically it. For this, you get reams of rules.

Which is why we're going to have to accept that some people are going to want to play by certain in-house rules. Some people have only been playing with a certain group, so these rules seem "obvious," even when left unsaid. However, when they are left unsaid, you can't really blame the people who didn't know them. So some people like to write out their community rules (like KDA (Korea Dota Allstars) did) and tell everyone who doesn't know their rules to check them out on the website. Of course, not so useful I think.

The alternative is to spell them out, and anything else goes. In Korean games, the host almost always says something like "-ap, no techies, no backdooring" or "-ap, no pick luna, backdooring only up to 2nd level tower" or "no rules" which means exactly that. Default is "no rules" if the host says nothing.

If you want to host, then you're going to have to define your in-house rules somehow, or get rid of them. It only takes a few seconds to type out.

In the end, it comes down to realizing that not everyone is familiar with how you like to play.

SK.Testie

Canada11084 Posts

January 23 2008 08:34 GMT

#678

I apologized to pintje already. This did not need to be brought up as it was solved the next few minutes afterwards.

BottleAbuser

Korea (South)1888 Posts

January 23 2008 08:39 GMT

#679

Yay, everyone's happy again. I'm going home and will arrive in maybe an hour. Hope someone's on then.

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

January 23 2008 09:48 GMT

#680

bottleabuser im in roughly the same time zone as you cuz im china so I reaaally wanna play with you and heen even though I suck balls but I do wanna get better so what time are you playing tonight