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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 13 2012 09:10 GMT
#32761
He was always better as a semi carry- carry then a support, even before the change imo. The scaling attack modifier just smashes through people
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
March 13 2012 09:50 GMT
#32762
On March 13 2012 04:32 Superiorwolf wrote:
Hey TL IHers from several years ago, what was the WC3 Customs map we used to play that involved a 2d / sidescroller, and you'd shoot other people and throw grenades? ________ Soldier or something? And what's the name of the game it's actually based off of again?

You've probably found out yourself by now, but it sounds like youre talking about Soldat.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
March 13 2012 10:45 GMT
#32763
On March 13 2012 04:32 Superiorwolf wrote:
Hey TL IHers from several years ago, what was the WC3 Customs map we used to play that involved a 2d / sidescroller, and you'd shoot other people and throw grenades? ________ Soldier or something? And what's the name of the game it's actually based off of again?


Sounds like WARLOCK TO ME!!!!!!!!!
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
March 13 2012 20:30 GMT
#32764
On March 13 2012 19:45 paper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 04:32 Superiorwolf wrote:
Hey TL IHers from several years ago, what was the WC3 Customs map we used to play that involved a 2d / sidescroller, and you'd shoot other people and throw grenades? ________ Soldier or something? And what's the name of the game it's actually based off of again?


Sounds like WARLOCK TO ME!!!!!!!!!

CLOSE ENOUGH
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
March 14 2012 12:19 GMT
#32765
On March 13 2012 04:12 Dubzex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 10:10 greggy wrote:
On March 11 2012 05:21 semantics wrote:
On March 10 2012 20:16 greggy wrote:
Nomad has been raped On the other hand vindi rework means he doesn't get completely hard countered mid. Oh well, gonna have to wait and see


http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=400095
is the patch thread

So <rune dependent hero> going quick bottle mid and just spamming <skill of choice> no longer so great oh no, but that strategy took so much skill.


:/

I actually think nomad is the best hero s2 ever made (no troll)

A hero built around two shotting and opponent... yeah really good hero. /sarcasm

I think all of S2's heroes have been poorly designed.


I think you're mad. Get nomad.


OT:

HoN Hero Spotlight: Gunblade
693 likes, 1,221 dislikes

$2, you fucking morons. Scaling shield and vector ability? Might as well go play LoL ;/
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 14:57:53
March 14 2012 14:57 GMT
#32766
On March 10 2012 13:16 Heen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 03:57 Judicator wrote:
On March 04 2012 16:30 Heen wrote:
sup guys
seems like dota changed quite a bit x_x
last time I captained people either laughed or typed '...' or ?

what a bunch of meanies

most of the heroes that I hate playing against (ex. panda) seem to be popular now. I'll have to theorycraft some ownage lineup on my next vacation and show my str hero abusing koreans how it's done :p

the army sucks, what can I say t.t 90%+ of the ppl here who play games play lol and only talk lol. didn't realize lol was so big in korea until I came here and saw all the lol players watching ongamenet lol league/shows religiously.

i'm curious how lol vs dota2 will play out. koreans think lol already has too much momentum for dota2 to even compete
icefrog hwaiting~


when are you done with army heen? D:


two septembers from now if the world doesnt end this year -0-
almost.. 25% done lawl


HEEEEEEEN

KOREA SUPER TEAM LETS DO IT

EDIT: IWAIT4UBRO
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 20:00:53
March 14 2012 19:54 GMT
#32767
On March 14 2012 21:19 greggy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 04:12 Dubzex wrote:
On March 11 2012 10:10 greggy wrote:
On March 11 2012 05:21 semantics wrote:
On March 10 2012 20:16 greggy wrote:
Nomad has been raped On the other hand vindi rework means he doesn't get completely hard countered mid. Oh well, gonna have to wait and see


http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=400095
is the patch thread

So <rune dependent hero> going quick bottle mid and just spamming <skill of choice> no longer so great oh no, but that strategy took so much skill.


:/

I actually think nomad is the best hero s2 ever made (no troll)

A hero built around two shotting and opponent... yeah really good hero. /sarcasm

I think all of S2's heroes have been poorly designed.


I think you're mad. Get nomad.


OT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=x7hGAbIPj_s
HoN Hero Spotlight: Gunblade
693 likes, 1,221 dislikes

$2, you fucking morons. Scaling shield and vector ability? Might as well go play LoL ;/

why don't you stop being bad at hon and played him in sbt as batman!
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 21:43:33
March 14 2012 21:41 GMT
#32768
I have sort of phased out of using this thread because I replaced HoN with Dota2. I return to ask how I can power-train to compete in a DotA 1 tournament.

The Chinese Students Association of a local university is hosting a DOTA competition next week. Quoting exactly:

This event is a ESPORT that uses a team elimination system to determine the top 3 teams to win.
Dota version 6.73c. The game use ap mode.


So, I've never played Dota in my life and I've gotta beat some underground Chinese guys. I was ~1900 in HoN and I've played a fair bit of Dota2 now so I think I can get good enough to give some good games. The main things I need help with are:

1. Where to download and set up Dota. I don't know if I still have my CDs or even where to download old versions of Dota. I'll also need whatever third party programs there are for setting up hotkeys and things because I'm used to Dota2.

2. Where to play some AP games of Dota to practice. I've only heard of Garena and Dotacash and I haven't used either. I don't need amazing games but I just need to play lots of games to see the differences and get used to animations/heroes.

3. Short breakdown on significant differences from Dota2 to Dota1.

4. Some ideas on what heroes to watch out for; I probably only know 3/4 of the heroes right now. It's 6.73c and AP so I'll probably try and get my team to play DS or play it myself. I'll see what heroes people can play and then work out a couple lineups.

Edit: Forgot to mention that I'm forming a team with some friends. Most of them have played Dota1 but not for a while. I don't think any of us know the new heroes that came out around December.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 14 2012 21:49 GMT
#32769
On March 15 2012 06:41 Durak wrote:
I have sort of phased out of using this thread because I replaced HoN with Dota2. I return to ask how I can power-train to compete in a DotA 1 tournament.

The Chinese Students Association of a local university is hosting a DOTA competition next week. Quoting exactly:

Show nested quote +
This event is a ESPORT that uses a team elimination system to determine the top 3 teams to win.
Dota version 6.73c. The game uses ap mode.


So, I've never played Dota in my life and I've gotta beat some underground Chinese guys. I was ~1900 in HoN and I've played a fair bit of Dota2 now so I think I can get good enough to give some good games. The main things I need help with are:

1. Where to download and set up Dota. I don't know if I still have my CDs or even where to download old versions of Dota. I'll also need whatever third party programs there are for setting up hotkeys and things because I'm used to Dota2.

2. Where to play some AP games of Dota to practice. I've only heard of Garena and Dotacash and I haven't used either. I don't need amazing games but I just need to play lots of games to see the differences and get used to animations/heroes.

3. Short breakdown on significant differences from Dota2 to Dota1.

4. Some ideas on what heroes to watch out for; I probably only know 3/4 of the heroes right now. It's 6.73c and AP so I'll probably try and get my team to play DS or play it myself. I'll see what heroes people can play and then work out a couple lineups.

well if its anywhere near waterloo you probably arent going to win.

1. warcraft 3 and getdota.com, i use autohotkey but there are other ways to get hotkeys

2. garena,dotacash,dotalicious, dotalicious is better but garena and dotacash easier to get games

3. too many, the only big ones are noticeable right from your first games, orb effects are complicated, playdota has a chart for them. if you play carry just remember mkb works best with lifesteal only.

4. too many to list... DS isn't very good in dota1 unless you have a specific strategy. dota1 lanes can be more brutal on him and vacuum + ult isnt as strong as in dota2
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
March 14 2012 22:05 GMT
#32770
It's no where near Waterloo. There are far less Chinese people in the prairies than there are in the major centres (Vancouver, Toronto, etc.). There's more of an even mix of all sorts of ethnicities.

1. I only see the new 6.74 on getdota. I haven't really looked around that much but a link to the map would be easy for me. Also, I found the install guide which is nice but an iccup-style compilation would be easier.

2. I'll probably just mass game on garena and dotacash then. I don't really care about the skill level, especially since I'll be terrible as I get used to it.

3. Yeah, I've read discussions over the years in this thread and I know orbs are especially bad. I'll probably just narrow down my hero picks to a handful of heroes and then learn how their skills interact with items. That shouldn't be too troublesome.

4. I don't think we'll have good enough coordination or skill to figure out any good strategy ahead of time. Probably just take a hard carry and give it space to farm.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 14 2012 22:10 GMT
#32771
On March 15 2012 07:05 Durak wrote:
It's no where near Waterloo. There are far less Chinese people in the prairies than there are in the major centres (Vancouver, Toronto, etc.). There's more of an even mix of all sorts of ethnicities.

1. I only see the new 6.74 on getdota. I haven't really looked around that much but a link to the map would be easy for me. Also, I found the install guide which is nice but an iccup-style compilation would be easier.

2. I'll probably just mass game on garena and dotacash then. I don't really care about the skill level, especially since I'll be terrible as I get used to it.

3. Yeah, I've read discussions over the years in this thread and I know orbs are especially bad. I'll probably just narrow down my hero picks to a handful of heroes and then learn how their skills interact with items. That shouldn't be too troublesome.

4. I don't think we'll have good enough coordination or skill to figure out any good strategy ahead of time. Probably just take a hard carry and give it space to farm.

iccup launcher does support wc3 which does support item hotkey binding but if you want qwer setup you need a warkey or something similar setup

map archive on getdota.
http://www.getdota.com/map_archive/map/546/lang/en


LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 22:20:00
March 14 2012 22:15 GMT
#32772
sylla, shadow demon and lycan all so good in dota 1, wanna think about picking and banning them. Also many feel batrider and puck are better in dota 1.

Also to add, dota 2 map is about 5% smaller, so moving from lanes (espec across map) will feel and actually be longer.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
March 14 2012 22:20 GMT
#32773
You never played dota1 durak? O_o
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 14 2012 22:23 GMT
#32774
Im so glad im done with hon and moved full time into dota 2. What a joke of a champion. They dont deserve to be called heroes anymore.
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 22:33:32
March 14 2012 22:32 GMT
#32775
On March 15 2012 07:23 FinestHour wrote:
Im so glad im done with hon and moved full time into dota 2. What a joke of a champion. They dont deserve to be called heroes anymore.


Ye when I returned to dota I found many had moved on to hon. Happy to find it ran on my computer I was extremely pleased with the reconnect feature and improved interface. Dota 2 was gifted to me by a friend over christmas and after a brief period of thinking I may dabble in hon again before realizing I never wanted to hon again. Smoke answers all my old qualms with dota as it really does give a great means of suppressing information and quickly moving about the map.

The smaller map does make dota 2 a faster game and I can't say I don't like it. The patient way in which icefrog is expanding the beta should make for well adjusted games at release, as it gives time to balance against this pace shift.

Also, the courier changes are great! takes away many bad feeling games.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 02:39:26
March 15 2012 02:37 GMT
#32776
On March 15 2012 07:20 Ack1027 wrote:
You never played dota1 durak? O_o

Years and years ago my friends were just starting it and wanted to play it at a LAN. I said something along the lines of, "You want me to play a game where you need to learn what 100 heroes do before you even stand a chance? What kind of stupid game is that. I could probably just look up some build right now and beat you." In retrospect, I was right about how much you need to know before you can compete. Also in retrospect, I could have been less of a dick about wanting to play Brood War.

Edit: I've gotten most things working now. I just need to figure out how to make my War3 folder non-read-only so that I can use WarKeys to edit the CustomKeys file.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
March 15 2012 03:19 GMT
#32777
Underground Chinese Dota is like secret Korean BW yo, fear it
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
March 15 2012 03:43 GMT
#32778
public dota2 is like a bad 1300 game except at half the speed and with jankier controls \o\ hoping dota2 picks up some slack closer to release /o/
Meh.
Exa
Profile Joined August 2008
10 Posts
March 15 2012 05:08 GMT
#32779
anyone play Dota 2 after playing HON and notice how SLOW the response time is?
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
March 15 2012 05:13 GMT
#32780
On March 15 2012 14:08 Exa wrote:
anyone play Dota 2 after playing HON and notice how SLOW the response time is?


Yes, it's the only reason I'm not playing the shit out of Dota 2 all the time =/
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
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