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Porkz
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark1027 Posts
February 18 2012 22:22 GMT
#32621
I think newbie kicked me from the clan... for being bad o.O
Great supine protoplasmic invertebrate jellies
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
February 19 2012 00:01 GMT
#32622
I haven't played hon in quite some time, is the community less... grizzled?
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
February 19 2012 00:12 GMT
#32623
On February 19 2012 09:01 TBone- wrote:
I haven't played hon in quite some time, is the community less... grizzled?


No~.
Never make a hydralisk.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17606 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 07:52:47
February 19 2012 01:09 GMT
#32624
#80334494 you can skip to the last 5 min or so (it's over 1h long): why you shouldn't play when drunk and how to lose 100% win rate with PR instruction manual...
Epic throw when you're just watching your team kill all of the enemy rax and you forgot that you had one lane destroyed and creeps are killing your shrine when you just sit in the fountain and enjoy the show...
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
February 19 2012 02:28 GMT
#32625
If the game gets to the point where FA carries harder than flint, it's probably true that if you had flint instead, you would've won 20 mins earlier. Flint's single-target dps is just ridiculously good.

P.S. Flare is like the best aoe in the game just after impalement. Damage to towers? Reveal? On a hero with only one other spell? fuckyea. I don't like hollowpoint in general because it's rng and you can't rely on it to last hit, thus it's only good for harassment.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 07:17:55
February 19 2012 07:16 GMT
#32626
I just saw the "DW without a PK" video, fucking gold. The actual music from the video even made it more epic.

In case any of you missed it from about a month ago like I did...
+ Show Spoiler +
DW without a PK
+ Show Spoiler +
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 19 2012 07:55 GMT
#32627
On February 19 2012 16:16 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I just saw the "DW without a PK" video, fucking gold. The actual music from the video even made it more epic.

In case any of you missed it from about a month ago like I did...
+ Show Spoiler +
DW without a PK
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI252Zl_XpQ


Shoulda known it was gonna be a car commercial of all things lolo
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17606 Posts
February 19 2012 09:04 GMT
#32628
On February 19 2012 04:08 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 03:03 Manit0u wrote:
On February 19 2012 02:58 Boblion wrote:
Well my problem with flint is that he is absolutly useless early on, it is like a super turtle farmer. If you leave your tower you are pretty much dead since he is not really fast and has only a slow ( and i usually don't like to lvl it ). So basicly you are just hoping to get a good 1v2 lane. You don't want to 2v2 and flint mid isn't really good imo.

On the other hand FA is way more mobile and has a proper lock which means that it is GOOD to lane with someone (especially a stuner). So basicly i feel like FA is just way more versatile and even if your XP / GPM drops because you run a dual lane and gank/harass you can always recover later with the skele and the split skills. Flint on the other hand you have to farm from the start otherwise you are useless. I feel like you have very little synergy with your team.


How can you underestimate flint's flare like that? It's the first skill I max on him, then range and then stun (I go QWQEQRQEEERWWW with him). If you can find a squishy target flare + ult pretty much owns at lvl 6. It's a bit harder to do so with FA.

I usually get flare after level 6. I prefer to up skill 2 and 3 to get better farming. I have some real trouble otherwise ( let's say you are mid vs a melee+hatchet or 1v2 guys at top)

I'm not confident if i don't get the extra dmg and the extra range. If you get stunned it is pretty much game over so i prefer to get a 600+ range fast. But i will definitly try int flint


Going against a melee is hard if they're good. In the 1500-1600 range though you can just harass the shit out of the guy due to superior range on Flint and you can always use flare to lasthit + deal aoe dmg to the guy which helps keeping him out of threat range.

For people asking for flint's items I usually start off with 2x tango, 4x minor totem and ring, then I go ring of the teacher, steam and power supply for laning. For core items it really depends, if there's a lot of squishies on enemy team you can go flINT with spellshards and hellflower or just get your standard shieldbreaker + shrunken combo which allows you to sit comfortably and dish out huge single target dmg killing people one by one.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 19 2012 09:08 GMT
#32629
On February 19 2012 18:04 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 04:08 Boblion wrote:
On February 19 2012 03:03 Manit0u wrote:
On February 19 2012 02:58 Boblion wrote:
Well my problem with flint is that he is absolutly useless early on, it is like a super turtle farmer. If you leave your tower you are pretty much dead since he is not really fast and has only a slow ( and i usually don't like to lvl it ). So basicly you are just hoping to get a good 1v2 lane. You don't want to 2v2 and flint mid isn't really good imo.

On the other hand FA is way more mobile and has a proper lock which means that it is GOOD to lane with someone (especially a stuner). So basicly i feel like FA is just way more versatile and even if your XP / GPM drops because you run a dual lane and gank/harass you can always recover later with the skele and the split skills. Flint on the other hand you have to farm from the start otherwise you are useless. I feel like you have very little synergy with your team.


How can you underestimate flint's flare like that? It's the first skill I max on him, then range and then stun (I go QWQEQRQEEERWWW with him). If you can find a squishy target flare + ult pretty much owns at lvl 6. It's a bit harder to do so with FA.

I usually get flare after level 6. I prefer to up skill 2 and 3 to get better farming. I have some real trouble otherwise ( let's say you are mid vs a melee+hatchet or 1v2 guys at top)

I'm not confident if i don't get the extra dmg and the extra range. If you get stunned it is pretty much game over so i prefer to get a 600+ range fast. But i will definitly try int flint


Going against a melee is hard if they're good. In the 1500-1600 range though you can just harass the shit out of the guy due to superior range on Flint and you can always use flare to lasthit + deal aoe dmg to the guy which helps keeping him out of threat range.

For people asking for flint's items I usually start off with 2x tango, 4x minor totem and ring, then I go ring of the teacher, steam and power supply for laning. For core items it really depends, if there's a lot of squishies on enemy team you can go flINT with spellshards and hellflower or just get your standard shieldbreaker + shrunken combo which allows you to sit comfortably and dish out huge single target dmg killing people one by one.


did you actually do semantic's int build in a ranked game?
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17606 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 10:10:36
February 19 2012 10:09 GMT
#32630
I used spellshards and hellflower (no PK though) on Flint in regular games numerous times. Most of the time with great success as components are cheap as hell and you don't need long periods of undisturbed farm to accumulate gold.
You can't forget that this items boost attack speed and damage nicely so they're not complete bullshit on Flint.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 19 2012 10:12 GMT
#32631
On February 16 2012 18:39 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 17:22 ZaplinG wrote:
will you play submissive bdsm role?

WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

...trying to last hit

NO JUST HARASS I GET ALL THE CREEPS,

...what about denys?

NO I GET THAT TOO


i dont know how i missed this, stealing it xoxoxo <3 sematics forever <3
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
February 19 2012 12:13 GMT
#32632
God DAMN I am still so trash at this game. Wish I didn't love it so much.
Chains none
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
February 19 2012 12:16 GMT
#32633
On February 19 2012 07:22 Porkz wrote:
I think newbie kicked me from the clan... for being bad o.O

irony~!
Meh.
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
February 19 2012 12:17 GMT
#32634
tbh rott + steamboots trick on flint is sick.
Meh.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
February 20 2012 05:38 GMT
#32635
Most useless pub hero: DS, Rhap or Empath ?
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
February 20 2012 07:23 GMT
#32636
Tempest

"Guys Tempest just caught 4 in an ulti+meteor with BKB on I think we should back."
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
February 20 2012 09:12 GMT
#32637
for future reference

<00:24:11>"OmgIRok": finally
<00:24:12>"OmgIRok": have internet
<00:24:13>"OmgIRok": again
<00:24:28>"lagmaster": yea having to rely only on the imagination sucks
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
February 20 2012 09:17 GMT
#32638
On February 20 2012 14:38 Boblion wrote:
Most useless pub hero: DS, Rhap or Empath ?


Probably empath, you can get a decent amount of damage going with farm on DS and rhapsody.. empath you're basically relying on filthy publics with your ult. I guess you could still carry on empath too if you went mid and got some autoattack items but it's definitely the hardest out of those 3 i'd say
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
February 20 2012 11:59 GMT
#32639
On February 20 2012 14:38 Boblion wrote:
Most useless pub hero: DS, Rhap or Empath ?


Empath for sure.
DS with hellflower+frostwolf+treads is actually quite strong and pretty farm up. Harkon's+rhap is ... viable in pubs sometimes. Empath is just weaksauce =[
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17606 Posts
February 20 2012 14:06 GMT
#32640
On February 20 2012 16:23 wonderwall wrote:
Tempest

"Guys Tempest just caught 4 in an ulti+meteor with BKB on I think we should back."


*ekhem*

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